Re: [9fans] Octopus viewer?

2012-05-10 Thread Nemo
for portability. -- iphone kbd. excuse typos :) On May 11, 2012, at 3:50 AM, kokam...@hera.eonet.ne.jp wrote: >> Sorry I couldn't be of more help. > > Don't worry about that. > It was your several years ago works, and you are > doing another work now. > > I'll walking around it for a more, b

Re: [9fans] Octopus viewer?

2012-05-10 Thread kokamoto
> Sorry I couldn't be of more help. Don't worry about that. It was your several years ago works, and you are doing another work now. I'll walking around it for a more, because it is very difficult to understand why it works. Conceptually, yes, it looks beautifull and easy to understand. My prob

[9fans] new pc bootstraps

2012-05-10 Thread geoff
New PC bootstraps and manual pages will be arriving on sources soon. Highlights include amd64 booting, using kernel device drivers, better CD booting, and the ability to run on a wider range of machines. See the upcoming manual pages for more information.

Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!

2012-05-10 Thread cinap_lenrek
from reading the source, it looks like mpintrenable() just tries isa if everything else fails: tbdf = v->tbdf; if(tbdf != BUSUNKNOWN && (vno = mpintrenablex(v, tbdf)) != -1) return vno; ... if(mpisabus != -1){ vno = mpintrenablex(v, MKBUS(Bu

Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!

2012-05-10 Thread erik quanstrom
On Thu May 10 17:42:46 EDT 2012, cinap_len...@gmx.de wrote: > 0.26.0: usb 0c.03.00 8086/2834 11 4:1861 32 > Intel Corporation > 0.26.1: usb 0c.03.00 8086/2835 11 4:1881 32 <- failed > Intel Corporation > 0.26.7: usb 0c.03.20 8086/283a 11 0:fe226c00 1024 <

Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!

2012-05-10 Thread cinap_lenrek
0.26.0: usb 0c.03.00 8086/2834 11 4:1861 32 Intel Corporation 0.26.1: usb 0c.03.00 8086/2835 11 4:1881 32 <- failed Intel Corporation 0.26.7: usb 0c.03.20 8086/283a 11 0:fe226c00 1024 <- failed Intel Corporation 81EC1043 (?) ICH8 Enhanced USB2 Enhanced Host Co

Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!

2012-05-10 Thread erik quanstrom
> mpintrenable: multiple botch irq 11, tbdf 500, lo 0068, n 0068 > mpintrenable: out of choices eisa -1 isa 22 tbdf 0xc00d100 irq 11 > intrenable: couldn't enable irq 11, tbdf 0xC00D100 for usbuhci > mpintrenable: multiple botch irq 11, tbdf 500, lo 0068, n 0068 > mpintr

Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!

2012-05-10 Thread Iruatã Souza
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:26 AM, wrote: > On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 03:31:14PM +0200, cinap_len...@gmx.de wrote: >> >> 9load has to die. > > Ideally, yes. I worked, a long time ago, with GRUB and finally realized > that adding feature after feature we were just building another > kernel... In pra

Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!

2012-05-10 Thread David du Colombier
> If anyone has instructions on making a bootable (install) usb for > Plan9 (using syslinux + iso or other method), I would be very > interested in this!. Preferrably a method that does not require Plan9 > to already be installed... > > Alternatively, a bootable usb (install) image that can be dd:

Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!

2012-05-10 Thread Charles Forsyth
ok. I wanted to check there wasn't some horrible PC-related restriction.

Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!

2012-05-10 Thread Jack Norton
On 5/10/2012 10:15 AM, Charles Forsyth wrote: If you're using USB, why would you bother with ISO format? On 10 May 2012 13:57, Jack Norton mailto:j...@0x6a.com>> wrote: The 9front bootloader can boot from a USB disk. You can then throw a plan9 iso on the disk and go from there. Jus

Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!

2012-05-10 Thread Charles Forsyth
If you're using USB, why would you bother with ISO format? On 10 May 2012 13:57, Jack Norton wrote: > The 9front bootloader can boot from a USB disk. You can then throw a > plan9 iso on the disk and go from there.

Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!

2012-05-10 Thread tlaronde
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 03:31:14PM +0200, cinap_len...@gmx.de wrote: > > 9load has to die. Ideally, yes. I worked, a long time ago, with GRUB and finally realized that adding feature after feature we were just building another kernel... -- Thierry Laronde http://ww

Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!

2012-05-10 Thread tlaronde
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 02:47:21PM +0200, Jens Staal wrote: > > If anyone has instructions on making a bootable (install) usb for Plan9 > (using > syslinux + iso or other method), I would be very interested in this!. > Preferrably a method that does not require Plan9 to already be installed...

Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!

2012-05-10 Thread cinap_lenrek
this simplifies building bootable cds. the advantage being that your kernel doesnt need to fit in that floppy image but can be just any file on the iso filesystem. that way theres no need to strip debug symbols and compress the kernel. in 9front, we use the same 9pcf kernel on all boot media. 9lo

Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!

2012-05-10 Thread Jack Norton
On 5/10/2012 3:09 AM, yang.zhao wrote: Really? Wonderful.. Is there some docs for install Plan 9(more detail)? x201 doesn't have a CD-ROM.. Thx. -- K.I.S.S. The 9front bootloader can boot from a USB disk. You can then throw a plan9 iso on the disk and go from there. http://code.google.com/

Re: [9fans] Location of plan9.ini

2012-05-10 Thread Jack Norton
On 5/10/2012 7:38 AM, IainWS wrote: On May 10, 10:15 pm, quans...@quanstro.net (erik quanstrom) wrote: Yes, but I get /bin/9fat does not exist. don't drop the ":". you need to type "9fat:". - erik Thanks mate it worked first go. I know this will sound terribly stupid but I've a good beg

Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!

2012-05-10 Thread Jens Staal
torsdagen den 10 maj 2012 12.19.51 skrev tlaro...@polynum.com: > > > Really? Wonderful.. > > > Is there some docs for install Plan 9(more detail)? > > > x201 doesn't have a CD-ROM.. > >Installing Plan9 without a CD reader or a PXE boot. > > Abstract > Wow! Th

Re: [9fans] Location of plan9.ini

2012-05-10 Thread IainWS
On May 10, 10:15 pm, quans...@quanstro.net (erik quanstrom) wrote: > > Yes, but I get /bin/9fat does not exist. > > don't drop the ":".  you need to type "9fat:". > > - erik Thanks mate it worked first go.

Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!

2012-05-10 Thread tlaronde
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 08:20:32AM -0400, erik quanstrom wrote: > > > from the perspective of dossrv(4), the exclusive use flag tells dossrv > > > to try to keep the program contiguous on disk. moving it around is > > > ok. > > > > I'm not a DOS FS specialist but I would be cautious about this be

Re: [9fans] 5i floating point?

2012-05-10 Thread Comeau At9Fans
Anybody with an ARM Plan 9 willing to run a binary for me? It just emits a few lines out of output and I promise it is not a virus. -- Greg Comeau / 4.3.10.1 with C++0xisms now in beta! Comeau C/C++ ONLINE ==> http://www.comeaucomputing.com/tryitout World Class Compilers: Breathtaking C++,

Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!

2012-05-10 Thread erik quanstrom
> I also might have been a little enthusiastic when I said "fine". The > MP tables are broken so you can't use the second core. Other than > that the video works great as does ethernet. many machines i've seen recently have a broken mp table for ht processors, or processors after 0, so i added t

Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!

2012-05-10 Thread erik quanstrom
> > from the perspective of dossrv(4), the exclusive use flag tells dossrv > > to try to keep the program contiguous on disk. moving it around is > > ok. > > I'm not a DOS FS specialist but I would be cautious about this because > there may be some binaries that expect not only a file to be a > c

Re: [9fans] Location of plan9.ini

2012-05-10 Thread Nicolas Bercher
On 10/05/2012 14:10, IainWS wrote: Yes, but I get /bin/9fat does not exist. Type 9fat: not 9fat Nicolas

Re: [9fans] Location of plan9.ini

2012-05-10 Thread erik quanstrom
> Yes, but I get /bin/9fat does not exist. don't drop the ":". you need to type "9fat:". - erik

Re: [9fans] Location of plan9.ini

2012-05-10 Thread IainWS
On May 10, 9:50 pm, 0in...@gmail.com (David du Colombier) wrote: > > I have been looking for the plan9.ini file in the obvious locations - > > however it hasn't turned up. I would like to change my monitor size > > inside of my virtual box but apparently I need the plan9.ini file. > > > The instruc

Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!

2012-05-10 Thread tlaronde
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 07:47:49AM -0400, erik quanstrom wrote: > > 6) [Not necessary for bootstrapping] So that 5) remains true, the 9load > > file must be tagged SYSTEM, so that it is not moved when updating. > > i originally read this incorrectly as from the prespective of dossrv(4); > in that

Re: [9fans] Location of plan9.ini

2012-05-10 Thread David du Colombier
> I have been looking for the plan9.ini file in the obvious locations - > however it hasn't turned up. I would like to change my monitor size > inside of my virtual box but apparently I need the plan9.ini file. > > The instructions that are out there are presently to mount 9fs 9fat > and then edit

Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!

2012-05-10 Thread erik quanstrom
On Thu May 10 05:06:15 EDT 2012, charles.fors...@gmail.com wrote: > On one of my Atoms I found that actually the problem (on that hardware) was > that Plan 9's memory probing was zapping one of the bytes in its tables, > preventing the second CPU from being seen. ("PCMP" changed to 0xCC "CMP"). >

Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!

2012-05-10 Thread erik quanstrom
> 6) [Not necessary for bootstrapping] So that 5) remains true, the 9load > file must be tagged SYSTEM, so that it is not moved when updating. i originally read this incorrectly as from the prespective of dossrv(4); in that case one would say ... from the perspective of dossrv(4), the exclusive u

Re: [9fans] Location of plan9.ini

2012-05-10 Thread erik quanstrom
> The instructions that are out there are presently to mount 9fs 9fat > and then edit the file /n/9fat/plan9.ini but this isnt there. Using > touch n/9fat/plan9.ini gives the error message "permission denied". > Where is it? did you forget the leading "/"? if not, did you run 9fat:? - erik

[9fans] Location of plan9.ini

2012-05-10 Thread IainWS
I have been looking for the plan9.ini file in the obvious locations - however it hasn't turned up. I would like to change my monitor size inside of my virtual box but apparently I need the plan9.ini file. The instructions that are out there are presently to mount 9fs 9fat and then edit the file /n

Re: [9fans] Starting a blog on plan 9

2012-05-10 Thread IainWS
On May 10, 4:49 am, st...@quintile.net (steve) wrote: > in support of sam, i use it and always have, i never > got to the point with acme that it felt worth the effort of changing. > > sam is not an an introductory editor, its an alternative. > > the one place where i do use acme is the wiki, there

Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!

2012-05-10 Thread tlaronde
> > Really? Wonderful.. > > Is there some docs for install Plan 9(more detail)? > > x201 doesn't have a CD-ROM.. > Installing Plan9 without a CD reader or a PXE boot. Abstract The Plan9 distribution is available for installation by the mean of a bootable ISO

Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!

2012-05-10 Thread Charles Forsyth
On one of my Atoms I found that actually the problem (on that hardware) was that Plan 9's memory probing was zapping one of the bytes in its tables, preventing the second CPU from being seen. ("PCMP" changed to 0xCC "CMP"). A recent change to pc/memory.c might have fixed that. On 10 May 2012 09:53

Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!

2012-05-10 Thread hiro
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mini_PCI#Mini_PCI > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pcmcia ah. I confused mini pci express with expresscard.

Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!

2012-05-10 Thread Justin Bedo
> Really? Wonderful.. > Is there some docs for install Plan 9(more detail)? > x201 doesn't have a CD-ROM.. I actually used the docking station with a cdrom drive to install. I also needed the 9load from 9atom to get it to boot, though I'm otherwise running a stock plan 9 from bell labs. I tried

Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!

2012-05-10 Thread yang.zhao
Really? Wonderful.. Is there some docs for install Plan 9(more detail)? x201 doesn't have a CD-ROM.. Thx. 2012/5/10 Justin Bedő > I'm running it fine on an x201. > > On 10 May 2012 04:04, yang.zhao wrote: > > Can Plan9 be installed on the Thinkpad x201i? > > Thanks. > > -- K.I.S.S.

Re: [9fans] Octopus viewer?

2012-05-10 Thread Francisco J Ballesteros
Oh! Good catch! Sorry I couldn't be of more help. On May 10, 2012, at 9:58 AM, kokam...@hera.eonet.ne.jp wrote: >> For what you say I think that your plumber might not be configured or >> that something happen with the configuration file after view tried to plumb >> it. >> >> In the worst case

Re: [9fans] Octopus viewer?

2012-05-10 Thread kokamoto
> For what you say I think that your plumber might not be configured or > that something happen with the configuration file after view tried to plumb > it. > > In the worst case I can just send you my configuration files :) It's not configuration problem, but, maybe, different version of inferno

Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!

2012-05-10 Thread Justin Bedő
I'm running it fine on an x201. On 10 May 2012 04:04, yang.zhao wrote: > Can Plan9 be installed on the Thinkpad x201i? > Thanks.