Re: [9fans] Heresy alert, Zerox -> Clone

2012-05-30 Thread tlaronde
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 11:28:47PM -0700, John Floren wrote: > Just when you thought every bikeshed had been painted... But we don't agree on the colour... -- Thierry Laronde http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C

Re: [9fans] formatting the manual from plan9 ports?

2012-05-30 Thread erik quanstrom
> Thanks to everyone for the advice. > > > On Tue May 29 23:48:31 EDT 2012, cinap_len...@gmx.de wrote: > > > short hardcoded paths are an advantage. this is not linux. this > > > is plan9. there are rules. the kernel already provides a way for > > > indirection that works for *everything*. mount/b

Re: [9fans] Heresy alert, Zerox -> Clone

2012-05-30 Thread Lucio De Re
> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 11:28:47PM -0700, John Floren wrote: >> Just when you thought every bikeshed had been painted... > > But we don't agree on the colour... That's the thing about the bike shed: choosing a colour must not delay construction. But once it's built and it needs a new coat of p

Re: [9fans] Heresy alert, Zerox -> Clone

2012-05-30 Thread Anthony Sorace
This is a bit silly. Zerox here (in the context of acme/Plan 9) has a well-understood meaning. Obvious etymology aside, it's essentially a made-up word here. It's beneficial that it isn't a false cognate to some action, since the behavior is not obvious a priori (in the "normal" case of xeroxing

Re: [9fans] Heresy alert, Zerox -> Clone

2012-05-30 Thread Richard Miller
> it isn't a false cognate to some action, since the behavior is not obvious a > priori (in the "normal" case of xeroxing or cloning, there's no expectation > that the copies stay in sync, as they do here). I vote for Dup. Or Dop (short for Doppelgänger).

Re: [9fans] Heresy alert, Zerox -> Clone

2012-05-30 Thread erik quanstrom
> Or Dop (short for Doppelgänger). dop. dop! make it stop! i can't not will not have a dop! - erik

Re: [9fans] Heresy alert, Zerox -> Clone

2012-05-30 Thread Calvin Morrison
On 30 May 2012 11:25, erik quanstrom wrote: >> Or Dop (short for Doppelgänger). > > dop.  dop!  make it stop! > i can't not > will not > have a dop! > > - erik > copy?

Re: [9fans] Heresy alert, Zerox -> Clone

2012-05-30 Thread John Floren
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 9:15 AM, Calvin Morrison wrote: > On 30 May 2012 11:25, erik quanstrom wrote: >>> Or Dop (short for Doppelgänger). >> >> dop.  dop!  make it stop! >> i can't not >> will not >> have a dop! >> >> - erik >> > > copy? > That surely won't be confused with the "Snarf" function

Re: [9fans] Heresy alert, Zerox -> Clone

2012-05-30 Thread Richard Miller
>> copy? >> > That surely won't be confused with the "Snarf" functionality at all And on second thought, maybe Dup is a bit too much like Dump ...

Re: [9fans] Heresy alert, Zerox -> Clone

2012-05-30 Thread Calvin Morrison
On 30 May 2012 12:17, John Floren wrote: > On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 9:15 AM, Calvin Morrison > wrote: >> On 30 May 2012 11:25, erik quanstrom wrote: Or Dop (short for Doppelgänger). >>> >>> dop.  dop!  make it stop! >>> i can't not >>> will not >>> have a dop! >>> >>> - erik >>> >> >> copy?

Re: [9fans] Heresy alert, Zerox -> Clone

2012-05-30 Thread Francisco J Ballesteros
I'd prefer clown, because it reminds me of clone. ;) couldn't resist. On May 30, 2012, at 6:20 PM, Richard Miller <9f...@hamnavoe.com> wrote: >>> copy? >>> >> That surely won't be confused with the "Snarf" functionality at all > > And on second thought, maybe Dup is a bit too much like Dump ...

Re: [9fans] Heresy alert, Zerox -> Clone

2012-05-30 Thread tlaronde
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 12:23:02PM -0400, Calvin Morrison wrote: > > Snarf is a dumb name. It isn't well named. This is because you are probably an english native speaker searching sensibility behind sounds or "pictures" (written text) that seem familiar to you. For the others---like me---the com

Re: [9fans] Heresy alert, Zerox -> Clone

2012-05-30 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
Snarf is not the same as Zerox. I suggest Xerox. Let them sue. On May 30, 2012, at 9:17 AM, John Floren wrote: > On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 9:15 AM, Calvin Morrison > wrote: >> On 30 May 2012 11:25, erik quanstrom wrote: Or Dop (short for Doppelgänger). >>> >>> dop. dop! make it stop! >>

Re: [9fans] Heresy alert, Zerox -> Clone

2012-05-30 Thread hiro
alles doofköppe hier? translation: this thread is so dope.

Re: [9fans] Heresy alert, Zerox -> Clone

2012-05-30 Thread cinap_lenrek
ZARDOZ!!! -- cinap

Re: [9fans] Heresy alert, Zerox -> Clone

2012-05-30 Thread Bakul Shah
On Wed, 30 May 2012 16:20:47 BST Richard Miller <9f...@hamnavoe.com> wrote: > > it isn't a false cognate to some action, since the behavior is not obvi= > ous a priori (in the "normal" case of xeroxing or cloning, there's no exp= > ectation that the copies stay in sync, as they do here). It just

Re: [9fans] Heresy alert, Zerox -> Clone

2012-05-30 Thread sl
> I'd leave it alone. This. -sl

[9fans] Heresy alert

2012-05-30 Thread Winston Kodogo
I'd vote for spelling it Xerox, on the possibly spurious grounds that a Chinese colleague of mine pronounced it "ex-rocks" for some time. I still prefer his pronunciation, and have adopted it myself. The initial "Z" just doesn't work for me.

Re: [9fans] Heresy alert

2012-05-30 Thread andrew zerger
In honor of plan9s utf imperitive, and after a little g-translate I think your Chinese colleague might prefer 复本 (fu`ben^) .. which .. takes up less screen space and to most new users would be about as eas to integrate mentally ;) On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Winston Kodogo wrote: > I'd vote

Re: [9fans] Heresy alert

2012-05-30 Thread Charles Forsyth
The curious Z spelling was to avoid using a trademarked word in a generic sense. On 30 May 2012 22:05, Winston Kodogo wrote: > The > initial "Z" just doesn't work for me. >

Re: [9fans] Heresy alert, Zerox -> Clone

2012-05-30 Thread Lucio De Re
> This is a bit silly. Zerox here (in the context of acme/Plan 9) has a > well-understood meaning. Obvious etymology aside, it's essentially a > made-up word here. It's beneficial that it isn't a false cognate to > some action, since the behavior is not obvious a priori (in the > "normal" case o

Re: [9fans] Heresy alert, Zerox -> Clone

2012-05-30 Thread Ethan Grammatikidis
On Wed, 30 May 2012 18:42:21 +0200 tlaro...@polynum.com wrote: > On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 12:23:02PM -0400, Calvin Morrison wrote: > > > > Snarf is a dumb name. It isn't well named. > > This is because you are probably an english native speaker searching > sensibility behind sounds or "pictures"