In part to substitute issues with time with issues with checksums, I am
writing a build tool for Inferno loosely inspired by djb's redo. I think
it deals nicely with some of the problems of make/mk tools: it handles
multiple outputs, treats shell variables as /env files for dependencies,
and uses
[Mk] only knows about the rules you give it. It does not
understand the real dependencies in your software.
Also, because of this you tend to give it general rules
which are not always right.
I thirk this might be a good place to mention that I'm
working on a build tool which, in effect,
Where can I find the Watch command Russ showed in the Acme video? It
doesn't seem to be in Inferno, in plan9port as far as I could tell, or
noted in the contrib index.
Or is it left as an exercise for the viewer? ;)
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what
was gained by bundling it into the shell.
Of course, the suggested feature does slow down the shell when it
encounters a file that does not exist, since it has to scan through
its rules for a possible creation rule, rather than just exit with an
error.
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drifted quite a bit from the subject line.
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There is a computer science concept analogous to what Zerox does. Pass
argument by reference also provides a look-in to a point in memory without
copying it. So if you want to name it something else, try changing it to
CpRef.
) and composability of keywords (just
string a few grep and grep -v after the nb command).
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If looking through code:
du -a . | xargs g pattern [2]/dev/null
If looking through all files:
du -a . | xargs grep -n foo [2]/dev/null
The -n is to be friendly with acme.
This presumes you have (at least a cheap knockoff of) xargs.
Recursively list only files; grep them with g to get full path,
filename, and line number; protect against John's semicolon trick by
quoting each file.
walk -f | sed 's,^,g '^$1^' '',;s,$,'',' | rc
walk apparently completely omits from its output files with a
single-quote in their names, and
or directory
mail is indeed not in the namespace directory. These files are present.
/tmp/ns.jdc.192.168.1.102:0/acme
/tmp/ns.jdc.192.168.1.102:0/factotum
/tmp/ns.jdc.192.168.1.102:0/plumb
What should I run to make it present? Does mailfs mislead me by
saying it succeeded?
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scripted) calculating needs.
I would like to use Mail instead of Outlook, if like nmh I can pull
files from an Exchange server. I haven't really looked into this yet,
but it could be a huge win.
I know all this barely scratches the surface of what plan9(port) can do.
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by me, then we both may
make a bad decision, and my pitch derailed both of us.
-Steve
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and other
characters with bigger classes) on this data set (a collection of
notes largely cut-and-pasted from the web).
- erik
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: segmentation violation
- erik
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}
if not {
touch $tmp
}
chmod +wx $tmp
echo $tmp
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charclass
Description: Binary data
Don't make me use MS Project, please...
This web page offers seven years of curated discussion on this (off-)topic.
http://www.edwardtufte.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=76topic_id=1topic=
-Steve
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, and (2b) the second refers to line 3 of the entire
file, not line 3 of the pattern space.
-Steve
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been described here autoconf should not
have the expectation that it gets -i, just to ignore it. For ape
that's fine, but from what I've had rejected I believe the core of
plan9 is held to a higher standard.
Dmitry
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/9038/10015) and runs the
result. For configure, it would be called something like
vary -x plan9port.sam configure --configure-opt
which would create a new variation of the configure script, called
configure.plan9port, and run it.
Tim Newsham
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we'll post an update here when actual source code produced during
this year's Google Summer of Code has been made available on project
hosting on Google Code.
http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2009/08/wrapping-our-fifth-google-summer-of.html
Some mentoring orgs already posted results.
commonly pass multiple lines, not just
separated fields.
John Stalker
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was the suffix 0. You might want to
avoid the prefix g.)
John Stalker
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incorporation of new ideas, it becomes a stagnant and hostile
exercise in standards-keeping.
- erik
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`./latin1.7a.font': Connection reset by peer
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On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 22:11, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote:
My test case tries to copy a file over top of one that already exists.
In this case, the bug decided to flit right by the check at
convM2S.c:216,217.
i thought
touch `this': Permission denied
$ ls `namespace`
acme factotum plumb sources.cs.bell-labs.com
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On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 02:44, Venkatesh Srinivas m...@acm.jhu.edu wrote:
Hi,
In order to construct an authenticated mount of sources, you will need
to start factotum, use srv
On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 05:31, sqweek sqw...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/10/1 Ethan Grammatikidis eeke...@fastmail.fm:
On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 04:50:40 -0500
Jason Catena jason.cat...@gmail.com wrote:
$ ls -lad
drwxrwxr-x 1 4294967294 4294967294 0 2009-09-30 23:11 .
You have numbers for user and group
': Connection reset by peer
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On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 15:43, Jack Norton j...@0x6a.com wrote:
Jason Catena wrote:
A quick edit frees acme from its heavy grid prison, a la Tufte.
https://dl.getdropbox.com/u/502901/acmenogrid.jpg
How about no grid whatsoever (while you're at it)?
I believe in a subtle or invisible grid
directory) as a writable filesystem? I promise
diligent study, to understand what the commands do.
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A quick edit frees acme from its heavy grid prison, a la Tufte.
https://dl.getdropbox.com/u/502901/acmenogrid.jpg
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(there's no bit directory, so which
file actually defines the default euro.8.font plan9port-acme uses?),
but are not so small as palatino/latin1.6.font (7 8 get clipped).
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and for proving
its correctness. Such a verified compiler is useful in the
context of critical software and its formal verification: the
verification of the compiler guarantees that the safety properties
proved on the source code hold for the executable
compiled code as well.
Tim Newsham
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on the other side of the
great vowel shift from Chaucer's middle English.
http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.viewfriendId=116217231blogId=178646624
(Sorry for contributing to off-topic-ness.)
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called vary (not published yet) which
takes a sam script and another file, applies the sam script to the
file, saves it with a new name, and optionally executes it. So you
don't have to maintain many nearly-identical scripts. I should upload
vary to the same patch set soon, for review.
Jason
that in bash's pipe and smoke it.
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don't write
different implementations of the same function for different types,
yet preserve type compatibility and checking), and reliability (pure
functions don't depend on state, so have fewer moving parts to go
wrong).
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, more stable code (eg xmonad
vs any C-based window manager).
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was delivered
by Perl.)
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,
Peter Canning
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where you want the file.
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in a directory's
tag, highlight a filename in that directory, then highlight a command
and apply it to Run with 2-1 to run the command on the file?
Ruda
Thanks, I'm a happier acme user now.
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the command.
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.
in acme: highlight and execute Dump /home/me/dump/whatever
in shell: rum acme -l /home/me/dump/whatever
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,
noticeable) change.
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not behind the firewall, to download the whole
distribution file-by-file.
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Hi Geoff,
I would also like to request a directory in sources/contrib, to store
a stream wrapper around sam (ssam), a script which uses mk to
parallelize a command over a set of arguments (apply), a script to
port ksh/bash scripts to rc (torc), et cetera. Many thanks.
Jason Catena (jdc)
And gets all the cleverest guys. Sometimes they're a bit full of
themselves, and they don't cruise the highways normally (they'd rather
teleport), but they know all the neatest party tricks.
To complicate the answer: there's an effort to make article and book styles
along the lines of Tufte's books. Sidenotes, Palatino and Bera Mono fonts
(I use Inconsolata for both paper code segments and in Acme), and shallow
sectioning without numbers.
http://code.google.com/p/tufte-latex/
Jason
Sorry, didn't mean to imply one should vary from the conference's writ.
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sources from my home computer?
9fs sources
srv: dial tcp!sources.cs.bell-labs.com!9fs: unknown host
sources.cs.bell-labs.com
9fs: exit 1
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On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 23:35, andrey mirtchovski mirtchov...@gmail.comwrote:
Just checking: have you tried accessing it by IP address
(204.178.31.8) rather than hostname? (this, of course, assumes that
you've ruled out a bad ndb configuration as the reason).
traceroute can't get to that IP
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 04:48, C H Forsyth fors...@vitanuova.com wrote:
I hope the services I want to use (will) have a non-browser API (eg
Twitter).
in fact, since a browser must ultimately send messages, it's not clear
what a `browser API' would look like.
Many AJAX and image-map
for the platform, how will Plan 9 participate in
the cloud computing (r)evolution? I suppose it would be enough to have a
Chromium port, if Chrome and the Chrome OS gain traction.
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Twitter).
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usable, less frustrating
filesystem than the former.
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for you.
http://codereview.appspot.com/95076/diff/1/2
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away, but auto-indent to just the right place
for it means I have to go out of my way more often to get the cursor
to where I actually want it.
Dave
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. In addition, I rely on design theory (esp. Tufte et al
on his web site) that reducing clutter aids comprehension, and
delimiters very much seem clutter to me.
Jason Catena
Real World Haskell ch4 pp71-72
do x - foo
y - bar
the y - bar must be directly under the x on the previous line or it's a
syntax error, and the error you get from GHC is the last statement of a
do
construct must be an expression
Huh, so this Haskell syntax actually prevents you from
interface? Or is any
format other than text considered a red-headed stepchild to be
delegated to other programs in the few cases where it must be used?
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The more hosts, the less chance of it going missing.
In this spirit, newly mirrored at
https://files.getdropbox.com/u/502901/9.intro.pdf
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Rob explains the fonts and colors (inspired by Tufte, no less) a bit
in this reposted message, and mentions Renee French.
http://www.mail-archive.com/9f...@cse.psu.edu/msg13035.html
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Much anger there is in him. Too much pride in his powers.
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earlier, discarding
functions which completed in less than 4000 cycles, we just ran:
plots/createplot /amd64/9k8pf 4000 ./trace plotme
and fed the input into gnuplot.
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and for smoking
out follow-on questions.
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the page of a guy at NASA. (I posted
a few recent simple examples, in the tufte-handout style, at
http://swtools.wordpress.com/papers/ . I plan to ask for a publishing
release for the really interesting ones now behind a corp firewall.)
Thierry Laronde
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interacts with others and maps to the problem domain.
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is an elusive illusion, so enlist
others throughout the process.
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in C
Inside every large problem is a small problem struggling to get out.
- niklaus wirth
When in doubt, use brute force.
- ken thompson
Agree, but these are off the point of when to release code, however
well-spoken and perceptive.
- erik
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How far off topic are we now? Can we get away with carrying on? :)
Not unless you're wearing Spock ears.
switching wholly over to plan9port. Probably
its greatest advantage to me now is that it's small and compiles easy
to any platform I've tried: Linux, Solaris, even Cygwin. So I tend to
load it on machines I will be on only briefly, to avoid having to use
vi or emacs.
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