You'd be wrong.
I'm just playing :)
But thanks for the compliment.
On Sep 7, 2013, at 5:54 PM, lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote:
>> Just wondering, anyone playing with such a beast?
>
> I bet you're streets ahead of anyone else on this one!
>
> ++L
>
On Sep 7, 2013, at 1:35 AM, Aram Hăvărneanu wrote:
> I believe the rules are different when the work is research, sponsored
> by public money. People are getting research grants to work on nix.
Just for the record,
we got not a single cent for nix.
As far as lsub is concerned, it's been a free
On Jul 8, 2013, at 12:09 PM, "Devon H. O'Dell" wrote:
> Although I spend a large part of my time on a Mac laptop, I'm a little
> puzzled at how or why one would use two hands with the trackpad
> doohickey.
I use one pad|mouse combined with Fn keys defined as mouse buttons (with
chording). This
You should ask if anyone else did that before doing it, instead of saying
they are un-spined life forms.
Don't you have a tricorder?
On Jun 17, 2013, at 8:40 PM, Kurt H Maier wrote:
> It is annoying to have to replicate work someone else has done merely
> because they lack the spine to release i
That was all I was trying to say, in a single and precise sentence.
I should learn english at some point…
On Jun 17, 2013, at 6:41 PM, erik quanstrom wrote:
> a lot of effort has gone into making code public.
It's a modified stock kernel, no need to ask because I made the changes
directly there. ;)
Now seriously..., no plan 9 secret society has ever been actually secret and
hiding code,
as far as I know, that is. The only times I saw someone was keeping code
without publishing
it was because the cod
Should be ok now.
Try and drop me a line off list if you have problems.
We had some problems with one of the machines, sorry.
On Jun 9, 2013, at 8:51 AM, arn...@skeeve.com wrote:
> Hi. I tried to get the 9pix paper but am getting connection refused
> sorts of errors from http://lsub.org.
>
> T
If you remove the features that make go interesting you'd get C without
punctuation symbols.
you could put it in sources, if not yet there.
On Apr 9, 2013, at 10:56 PM, a...@9srv.net wrote:
> This came up in #plan9, and I reduced it to this example:
>
> :; mkdir cat dog pig
> :; echo meow > cat/tabby
> :; echo woof > dog/mutt
> :; bind cat pig
When you reach pig, you now jump to cat.
> :; bind dog/mu
I'll try to say it in a different way.
I asked Siri and (s)he said (s)he does not consume many resources.
Now, that's nice. I'm willing to give up the machine resources for that, or
for dialling by voice on my car.
*But*, I'm not sure that to print "Hi there" I need a few megs, nor am I sure
that
9?
>>
>> On Feb 18, 2013, at 7:07 PM, cinap_len...@gmx.de wrote:
>>
>>> network connections on plan9 can be hanged up by writing "hangup" into
>>> the corresponding ctl file.
>>>
>>> --
>>> cinap
>>>
>>> [/mail/box/nemo/msgs/201302/897]
>
> [/mail/box/nemo/msgs/201302/902]
am I doing wrong?
>
> You're trying to signal in-band, which is only a short cut. Would it
> be expensive to put the signalling out of band?
>
> ++L
>
>
> [/mail/box/nemo/msgs/201302/889]
Yes, it was a hack I made, but a hack anyway.
In most cases it worked fine, but it's not a real fix, so I didn't say anything
in this thread.
On Jan 18, 2013, at 4:17 PM, Gorka Guardiola wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 3:14 PM, trebol wrote:
>> Thanks Gorka, but I've tried that with
>> ftp.c
Once thing we could do is try to merge usb stuff so that those are again
compatible in the various 9 flavours out there.
Perhaps the ones to ask about this are Geoff and Cinap (I'm willing to help,
but have not done much on this front since long ago now).
Speaking just for myself, I think the glo
IIRC, I think I wrote something about that in the 9.intro book.
But it's likely you already know all that's written there and you want
more details…
On Dec 21, 2012, at 7:23 PM, steve wrote:
> hi,
>
> I writing another non-disc file server after a gap of a few years
> and am making mistakes.
>
it's an Xbox game. and yes, you
need it ;)
On Nov 22, 2012, at 4:37 PM, lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote:
>> Halo 4
>
> Whatever it is, I haven't needed it in the past 38 years, should I
> have?
>
> ++L
>
Halo 4
On Nov 22, 2012, at 11:07 AM, lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote:
> What is so special a COBOL programmer can't do?
or a script that does everything for you.
you edit at one tree and Rin the script
which copies to another replaces and submits.
On Nov 16, 2012, at 12:37 PM, dexen deVries wrote:
> On Friday 16 of November 2012 11:12:38 Steve Simon wrote:
>> I am working on a project that insists on 4 space in
that's great, thanks!
btw, anyone using 9vx or inferno there? (10.8)
On Oct 23, 2012, at 6:37 PM, Jeff Sickel wrote:
> Another set of changes have been pushed to
> https://bitbucket.org/jas/drawterm-cocoa that support resize/reshape of the
> OS X window. There are still a few drawing glitche
that's what I thought. :)
On Oct 18, 2012, at 2:10 PM, Oleksandr Iakovliev wrote:
> On 2012-10-18 11:03 , Balwinder S Dheeman wrote:
>> On 10/18/2012 01:35 AM, Christoph Lohmann wrote:
>>> Greetings comrades.
>>>
>>> On Wed, 17 Oct 2012 22:05:08 +0200 Aharon Robbins
>>> wrote:
This sa
[I'm sending this on behalf of Eric Jul. Thus, the From is wrong :). ]
Dear Inferno/Plan 9 fans.
Attached is the initial call for participation for the 7th International
Plan 9 Workshop, Dublin, Ireland, November 14-16, 2012.
Please note that the workshop this time takes place in November and t
native there means in the host os of
the pc and the namespace you had there.
On May 22, 2012, at 2:29 PM, kokam...@hera.eonet.ne.jp wrote:
>> I issued the ';page' command from 9front terminal, where ';' indicates
>> the native OS's command. What is 'native' here?
>
> This may also be from th
let me! let me!
--
iphone kbd. excuse typos :)
On May 19, 2012, at 11:06 PM, Charles Forsyth wrote:
> Oh my whiskers! Oh my paws! Can't we make this stop? I suppose you'll now
> start posting incomplete things with the frail excuse that "you haven't got a
> keyboard" and "posted from my ipad
On May 19, 2012, at 6:53 AM, kokam...@hera.eonet.ne.jp wrote:
> (1) !mkdir /mnt/ui/appl/image:logo
> (2) !cp /usr/okamoto/octopus.img /mnt/ui/appl/image:logo/data
> (3) !echo copyto /main/row:stats > /mnt/ui/appl/image:logo/ctl
1 and 2 create the widget and update it. but it's not shown anywher
Because I noticed Ken's worm fs was being discussed in this thread, I thought
I might just drop here the man page for a new alternate file server that we
wrote
for nix.
It's not yet ready for use (I'm using it, but it's still under testing, and the
version
in the main nix tree is now out of date
for portability.
--
iphone kbd. excuse typos :)
On May 11, 2012, at 3:50 AM, kokam...@hera.eonet.ne.jp wrote:
>> Sorry I couldn't be of more help.
>
> Don't worry about that.
> It was your several years ago works, and you are
> doing another work now.
>
> I'll walking around it for a more, b
On May 2, 2012, at 3:56 PM, aram wrote:
> % cat olive
>
> I receive nothing, whereas by executing
Because IIRC that file is used to speak a protocol.
That is, unless you issue certain requests on that file, o/mero
wont reply.
That's used to synchronize all o/lives so that they all perform
very
On Apr 30, 2012, at 11:54 PM, aram wrote:
> Hi,
>
> i explore the UI of octopus and i try to understand how omero notifies the
> viewers for events.
> It is apparent from the documentation that the viewers "read" events from the
> ui/olive file.
> However, when i cat that file from the shell a
/mnt/view is used for that.
open in olive will use it when in a
terminal.
--
iphone kbd. excuse typos :)
On Apr 30, 2012, at 3:19 AM, kokam...@hera.eonet.ne.jp wrote:
>> On Apr 28, 2012, at 10:23 AM, kokam...@hera.eonet.ne.jp wrote:
>>>
>>> Why Inferno shows 's', and olive does 'M'?
>>>
>>>
On Apr 28, 2012, at 10:23 AM, kokam...@hera.eonet.ne.jp wrote:
>
> Why Inferno shows 's', and olive does 'M'?
>
> Kenji
>
olive is using the namespace where o/x runs, so it's not
directly the underlying name space, but it's re-exported.
I think that's why.
No. But sofware capable of using nix services is.
As you can see by looking at my signature in the previous mail.
Enjoy.
On Apr 25, 2012, at 4:31 PM, Christoph Lohmann wrote:
> Greetings.
>
> On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 16:31:42 +0200 Nemo wrote:
>> iphone kbd. excuse typos :)
>
&
nix does not have graphics yet. sorry.
we are using a changed 9pxeload and
are switching to the new 9boot.
the loader can be found in the distrib.
if you can't wait.
--
iphone kbd. excuse typos :)
On Apr 25, 2012, at 4:17 PM, Strake wrote:
> Hello all.
>
> I just lately installed Plan 9,
ah, if you said just to leverage a
native kit, yes, that was the plan I had.
but abstracting it.
--
iphone kbd. excuse typos :)
On Apr 18, 2012, at 6:09 PM, arn...@skeeve.com wrote:
>> Is it exported as files?
>>
>> I thought I knew Qt, but, if it provides a file interface, I missed that.
>
Funny, the "plan" I mentioned about the new window system
was also to provide inferno to some modern UI, retaining a simple
programmatic interface.
Since I don't have even a single line of code for this, I didn't say.
But I'm glad to see you did :)
On Apr 17, 2012, at 8:56 PM, Charles Forsyth wr
I have in the todo yet another
ui system to run on top
of other systems. for terminals.
--
iphone kbd. excuse typos :)
On Apr 17, 2012, at 4:16 AM, kokam...@hera.eonet.ne.jp wrote:
>> http://lsub.org/ls/nix.html
>
> yeah, now I can browse individual files now,
> When I tried two days ago, on
got it clear.
--
iphone kbd. excuse typos :)
On Apr 16, 2012, at 6:46 PM, cinap_len...@gmx.de wrote:
> can't receive mail from 9fans anymore. but can i
> still send?
>
> --
> cinap
Hi,
just FYI,
http://lsub.org/ls/nix.html
has links and pointers for anyone to get the
distribution and updates and/or send changes.
hth
I've seen that when the directory is ok but the file is not, fossil cannot
get to the data file although it can obtain the metadata for the file.
In fact, we still have a few files named "bug" which came from
mv a-file-in-such-shape to bug
Is that the case?
On Mar 27, 2012, at 6:38 PM, Richard Mi
impressive. hats off.
--
iphone kbd. excuse typos :)
On Mar 22, 2012, at 8:24 PM, Richard Miller <9f...@hamnavoe.com> wrote:
>> I've not been able to easily reproduce this problem.
>> How did you proceed?
>
> Not very reproducible, but I found it could be encouraged to happen
> (on a sacrific
I think in the octopus we have a print device that used the underlying default
printer.
It should be in /mnt/print or /mnt/terms/yourmachinename/print
Take a look to the start scripts to see if print is starting or printing some
diagnostics.
So, cp afile.pdf /mnt/print
should print it there.
A
For the octopus we wrap underlying MacOS X or Linux devices, and then use them.
For native plan 9 I don't know if there's a working usb camera.
I think there was some, long ago, but I'm not even sure.
I have plans for something related to it in the future, but nix goes before that
and it will still take a long time to get there.
So, for me, it's just the system I use for development (working on nix, mostly).
On Mar 2, 2012, at 7:47 PM, Jack Johnson wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 12:37 AM, Fr
Ok. They said explicitly that I can post pre-prints of the paper at web sites.
http://lsub.org/ls/export/ojss.ps
On Mar 2, 2012, at 5:32 PM, Nemo wrote:
> I'm trying to clear that out, we'll see.
>
> On Mar 2, 2012, at 5:27 PM, John Floren wrote:
>>
>> Unless
I'm trying to clear that out, we'll see.
On Mar 2, 2012, at 5:27 PM, John Floren wrote:
>
> Unless Elsevier is even more evil that I thought, Nemo should still be
> able to post a PDF on lsub.org. Now, if they're really evil, they got
> exclusive rights...
>
> John
I'm working on a file system that will keep most of the tree in memory
at all times (in fact, the "active" tree is only in memory). It archives frozen
temporary copies to a disk partition until it gets full (in which case the
oldest
is discarded) and an external program is going to make permanent
anyone near atocha would do.
there should be rooms.
--
iphone kbd. excuse typos :)
On Oct 18, 2011, at 6:22 PM, erik quanstrom wrote:
> i messed up and didn't reserve a hotel soon enough.
> does anyone know of alternate hotels?
>
> thanks.
>
> - erik
>
or some screenshots at least :)
On Sep 17, 2011, at 12:46 AM, andrey mirtchovski wrote:
> John, turn a camera on and film the phone while using it, please!
>
impressive :)
On Sep 17, 2011, at 12:23 AM, John Floren wrote:
> We would like to announce the availability of Inferno for Android
> phones. Because our slogan is "If it ain't broke, break it", we
> decided to replace the Java stack on Android phones with
> Inferno. We've dubbed it the Hellaphon
im working in smp.
On Sep 16, 2011, at 8:46 AM, erik quanstrom wrote:
> hey, ron.
>
> On Fri Sep 16 01:57:04 EDT 2011, rminn...@gmail.com wrote:
>> for the 2M pages -- I'm willing to see some measurement but let's get
>> the #s -- I've done some simple measurements and it's not the hit one
>>
i was in the middle of a commit
try the release tag or give me one more hour.
On Sep 15, 2011, at 6:39 AM, erik quanstrom wrote:
> i'm having a bit of trouble compiling everything.
>
> chula; mk trap.6
> 6c -FTVw trap.c
> trap.c:280 not a member of struct/union: core
> trap.c:281 not a member
isnt it in sources? if not ill dig the
dump.
On Jul 30, 2011, at 1:23 AM, EBo wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Jul 2011 22:34:00 +0200, Francisco J Ballesteros wrote:
>> We had an x10fs for a serial cm11.
>> Might be even in sources.
>
> All I found on a web search for x10fs was a paper, but no sources. D
apic ids can be found in the madt table, from acpi, iirc.
On Feb 22, 2011, at 9:27 PM, erik quanstrom wrote:
> On Tue Feb 22 15:11:29 EST 2011, rminn...@gmail.com wrote:
>> let me ask the question again. I know what the difference between APIC
>> and ACPI means.
>
> i wasn't implying that you d
(without some of sst ffeatures, i admit) and a lot
easier to implement. I'll write a toy to see if this is wrong.
thanks for your reply, Russ, btw.
On Feb 21, 2011, at 12:25 AM, Nemo wrote:
>
>> i did read it before asking, and i'm still wondering why
>> not mux tcp instea
> i did read it before asking, and i'm still wondering why
> not mux tcp instead (provided you dont want/need that extra feature
> or dont implement it that way)
>
>
> On Feb 20, 2011, at 10:59 PM, Russ Cox wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Nemo wr
why not mux tcp instead?
On Feb 20, 2011, at 2:35 AM, Charles Forsyth wrote:
> i think it might be helpful to have a transport protocol along the lines
> of Bryan Ford's SST, which allows a stream to create substreams
> with separate flow control and other attributes. a primary 9p stream
> might
i think usbd added that.
iirc it should do it. I'll take a look anyway. maybe the code was gone
in some change...
On Jan 7, 2011, at 2:12 PM, erik quanstrom wrote:
> it doesn't seem to be available in anyone's control files.
>
> usb(3) says
>
>This may result from the read of an endpo
let's call it rumba and go on.
On Oct 30, 2010, at 1:28 AM, Bruce Ellis wrote:
> well you need more books.
>
> On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 10:07 AM, roger peppe wrote:
>> the only book by hoare i've got (CSP) doesn't mention a deadly embrace.
>>
>> On 29 October 2010 23:43, Bruce Ellis wrote:
i have decent servers that wait for clunk to operate on written data once it's
complete. all octopus spoolers do that.
On Oct 28, 2010, at 10:32 PM, Venkatesh Srinivas wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 4:18 PM, Charles Forsyth
> wrote:
> the race is that there's nothing to say that the clunk
back to the 80s, or was it 70s?
many people have implemented migration.
the first i remember is swaping (yes, not paging) out a process, then swapping
it back into a different machine. iirc, it might be the sprite unix, not quite
sure.
the point is, the migrated process still needs all the conne
4 PM, erik quanstrom wrote:
> On Mon Oct 4 16:04:09 EDT 2010, jaketodd...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> There's http://lsub.org/who/nemo/9.html.
>
> that looks right. i had to change a number of instances of
> assigning NULL to a char, as in:
>
> char *p;
>
Iirc, there's still work to be done to get them working fully and properly.
But i may be mistaken.
I remember I had to add support for kbin and mousein, as Erik points out.
On Sep 6, 2010, at 5:22 PM, erik quanstrom wrote:
> On Mon Sep 6 10:44:06 EDT 2010, eeke...@fastmail.fm wrote:
>> Just c
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