I'd certainly be happy to give it a good home if nobody else has claimed it.
digby...@gmail.com if you want to discuss logistics off the list...
Digby.
On 2 April 2018 at 16:27, Steve Simon wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am in the Uk, and moving house.
>
> t have an HP T5325 Thin client which uses the
> s
Hi,
I am in the Uk, and moving house.
t have an HP T5325 Thin client which uses the
same Marvel chipset as the guruplug.
http://www.parkytowers.me.uk/thin/hp/t5325/index.shtml
Someone got as far as getting one to net boot plan9 but
didn't (If I remember correctly) get the graphics working.
http:
I don't know if this is such common knowledge that nobody has bothered
to mention it (please tell me either way), but much of that is now at
http://9p.io/
http://9p.io/plan9/index.html
and a newer one ?
https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/belllabs-microsite-plan9/plan9.html
was http://sources.
What's this? https://plan9.io/
On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 9:27 AM, Joseph Stewart
wrote:
> Someone (not me) should make a 9p to S3 service and put all the goodies
> there.
> -joe
>
> On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 1:20 PM, Steve Simon wrote:
>
>> I found the old addresses here:
>>
>> https://dnshistory.o
Someone (not me) should make a 9p to S3 service and put all the goodies
there.
-joe
On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 1:20 PM, Steve Simon wrote:
> I found the old addresses here:
>
> https://dnshistory.org
>
> plan9.bell-labs.com was 204.178.31.16
> and sources.cs.bell-labs.com was 204.178.31.32
>
> Both
I found the old addresses here:
https://dnshistory.org
plan9.bell-labs.com was 204.178.31.16
and sources.cs.bell-labs.com was 204.178.31.32
Both gone too, its not just DNS.
I think it has fallen off its perch,
it is are pine-ing for the fjords,
it is an ex OS research group.
-Steve
I haven't tried for a few weeks but sources.cs.bell-labs.com
has gone (from DNS), I don't know about the server behind it
as I never kept a record of the IP address.
has the labs server gone for good? (RIP).
The entire cs.bell-labs.com domain is gone.
And given that bell-labs.com has now outso
Hi,
I haven't tried for a few weeks but sources.cs.bell-labs.com
has gone (from DNS), I don't know about the server behind it
as I never kept a record of the IP address.
has the labs server gone for good? (RIP).
-Steve
I've been grateful for the nightly vac jobs I've had going for the
last several years of sources lately, though admittedly it was only
for my tiny corner of contrib.
On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 9:12 AM, Steve Simon wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I haven't looked for a while, but http://plan9.bell-labs.com has gone
Hi,
I haven't looked for a while, but http://plan9.bell-labs.com has gone,
and http://plan9.bell-labs.com/sources/ is broken -
/usr/web/plan9/sources.html has disappeared from the web server.
Is there anyone left at the labs who might be able to fix at least the
web access to sources, it does loo
On Fri, 02 Dec 2016 11:44:52 GMT "Steve Simon" wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Anyone have some small and neat code (in C) to parse ISO8601 date/time
> notation with all its glorious options?
>
> Its not hard to write, but it would be time consuming to test all the varients
> so if anyone has some code, or
Hi all,
Anyone have some small and neat code (in C) to parse ISO8601 date/time
notation with all its glorious options?
Its not hard to write, but it would be time consuming to test all the varients
so
if anyone has some code, or knows of some in /sys/src that I have missed,
please tell me.
Than
Subject change to ether Yuk driver for 88E8036
I noticed the 9fans reopen now.
I tried this mail at June 16, 2016, but failed...
I'd like to announce this to all, particulary eric.
I posted a mail to 9fans, but I don't have received that mail,
so retries it to this mailing-list.
I asked the abov
Hello everyone.
I'm curious about the behavior of rc concatenating null strings (brakes
execution on error...). It's a feature, rationally thought-out, or a bug?
If anyone can tell me the story behind, I'll be grateful.
trebol.
Subkject: A68-N5000 cabini motherboard
I got it functional partially.
This is for energy-saving motherboard with APU (15W TDP)
on it without coolong fan.
I just moved the HDD used on a C2D machine
to this box, where it booted successfully with only
one problem, ether chip.
The ether chip on thi
Subjecxt: how to change login user on 9pi?
I tried to change the /n/9fat/cmdline.txt file to
readparts=1 nobootprompt=local user=kokamoto.
Now I can login as kokamoto. Then I'd like to make ask the
login name at boottime. How I can change it?
Year! Now I'm a network user of 9pi.
I got Buffal
The ones that have bitten me have been ed, du and ls.
I fixed cleanname not to restamp the terminating zero on the string
if its already there which makes cleanname(".") work (for ls).
du's problem is wrapped in String.h issues and I haven't dug any more.
ed is exactly as you say.
I assumed the
what are the programs passing string constants? only found:
ed.c:160: tfname = mktemp("/tmp/eX");
all the other programs copy the template in a buffer
before passing it to mktemp(). i think it would be
better to just fix ed no?
--
cinap
Subject p9p and writable strings
Anyone built p9p recently, how do you cope with modern gcc
which now places all string constants in a readonly section
in the executable, and there is nolonger an option to prevent it.
the two main offenders I have found so far are mktemp() and cleanname().
In sev
>>> In my experience a VESA BIOS will sometimes report
>>> different available modes depending on the detected
>>> EDID.
>>
>> I have no problem believing this is true, but I'm also sure > there's more
>> to it than that.
>
> I agree. One problem is that these things are all different,
> almost c
>> In my experience a VESA BIOS will sometimes report
>> different available modes depending on the detected
>> EDID.
>
> I have no problem believing this is true, but I'm also sure > there's more to
> it than that.
I agree. One problem is that these things are all different,
almost completely un
> In my experience a VESA BIOS will sometimes report
> different available modes depending on the detected
> EDID.
I have no problem believing this is true, but I'm also sure there's more to it
than that. The device I'm most frustrated with is a Thinkpad, reporting on the
built-in display, for e
Hello,
the result below is on one of my machine with GA-H61M-USB3H.
the MB is nice with 9front.
maia% @{rfork n; aux/realemu; aux/vga -p}|grep '^vesa mode'
vesa mode 0x107 1280x1024x8 m8 packed
vesa mode 0x11a 1280x1024x16 r5g6b5 direct
vesa mode 0x11b 1280x1024x32
thanks for the confirmation!
- erik
In my experience a VESA BIOS will sometimes report
different available modes depending on the detected
EDID.
The following cards reported the following modes when
the following EDIDs were detected:
---
1.0.0: vid 03.00.00 1106/3344 11 0:f008 67108864 1:f400 16777216
VIA Techno
> Funny, I have 10+ machines that all use vesa, all widescreen. I have
> never seen a vesa BIOS that didn't provide widescreen modes. I'm sure
> they exist, but they certainly are not rare. I drive 1920x1200x32 with
> vesa and Cinap's realemu just fine.
my experience has been similar to anthony's.
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 5:36 PM, Anthony Sorace wrote:
> Cards with VESA entries for non-4:3 modes are rare; I'm not sure I've ever
> seen one.
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 5:50 PM, erik quanstrom wrote:
> and vesa bioses don't typicall provide em.
Funny, I have 10+ machines that all use vesa, all
> I have got hold of a new 1920x1200 monitor but no card I can find seems
> to support it on plan9 - Even cards that claim this resolution and higher
> don't have the vesa mode entry.
>
> Anyone any thoughts, or suggestions of cards that do
> have the apropriate high resolution VESA modes?
as ant
I'd love to hear about positive results here. Cards with VESA entries for
non-4:3 modes are rare; I'm not sure I've ever seen one. The Pi, by contrast,
drives my 16:10 high-res monitor without issues, which is the main reason it's
my main Plan 9 terminal these days.
Anthony
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Hi,
I have got hold of a new 1920x1200 monitor but no card I can find seems
to support it on plan9 - Even cards that claim this resolution and higher
don't have the vesa mode entry.
Anyone any thoughts, or suggestions of cards that do
have the apropriate high resolution VESA modes?
Thanks,
-Ste
On Sun, 16 Mar 2014 10:51:37 -0400, erik quanstrom wrote:
>since you mention the host's hardware, i'm a little confused. the host's
>hardware doesn't make any difference. it's drawterm's bridge between
>#A and the host's audio device that's the question. has someone
>done this for os-x? if so,
On Sat Mar 15 19:27:44 EDT 2014, jaketodd...@gmail.com wrote:
> Audio worked with hiro's drawterm and intel hda in 9front.
since you mention the host's hardware, i'm a little confused. the host's
hardware doesn't make any difference. it's drawterm's bridge between
#A and the host's audio device
It’s on the back burner for osx. Well, maybe the storage bin waiting for a
sifter.
-jas
On Mar 15, 2014, at 6:07 PM, Steve Simon wrote:
> Subject Drawterm windows audio?
>
> Anyone added an audio driver to windows or osx drawterms?
>
> -Steve
>
Audio worked with hiro's drawterm and intel hda in 9front.
Subject Drawterm windows audio?
Anyone added an audio driver to windows or osx drawterms?
-Steve
Subject i2c and gpio
I need an i2c driver for plan9, anyone implemented
one in the past and have opinions on what they should
look like?
I have to revisit some old code but I wrote a driver for
another OS which implemeted 255 virtual files in /dev/i2c/*
one for each possible address (well there
> what would be helpful, and move the discussion forward, is if someone
> could try to replicate this with unclean shutdowns after various file
> operations. i suspect that it won't repeat. but either way, it
> will move the discussion forward.
For what it's worth, unclean shutdowns resulted in
On Tue Apr 30 11:57:34 EDT 2013, lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote:
> Subject Sheevaplug and NVRAM
>
> Every time I start the Sheevaplug, I have to enter the authentication
> details that ought to be written to VNRAM. This seems unnecessary,
> but my attempts to assign a single block of flash to NVRAM h
Subject Sheevaplug and NVRAM
Every time I start the Sheevaplug, I have to enter the authentication
details that ought to be written to VNRAM. This seems unnecessary,
but my attempts to assign a single block of flash to NVRAM have so far
been unsuccessful.
Could somebody mail me an example of a s
it's a shell script that copies updated files from a Bell Labs system to
sources.
subect: update:V: in system mkfiles
Many system mkfiles have targets like this:
update:V:
update $UPDATEFLAGS $UPDATE
These're no program named 'update' however — besides pc/update which
doesn't seem to apply here.
Could somebody please advise what these are meant for? Is it still
rele
hi,
I try to mount the local foler in the vm, use the 9p protocol, it mount
success, enter the foler, i can read and write the files already in the
folder ,but can't create new folders and files in it. why and how can i
solve it?
i created the vm use qemu -fsdev
local,id=test_dev,path=/root/share
erik quanstrom wrote:
> for me, the most important questions are
> - how do i set up a raid/hot spares, and
> - can i do this without rebooting.
Of course, and right now I'm doing exactly that using a different
operating system. Can I do that on Plan 9? I don't know, I'm trying
to find out withou
> > (see wiki's raid article.)
>
> Plan 9 wiki? It mentions SiL 3112 SATA, 3114 SATA/RAID and VIA 82C686,
> VT8237 SATA/RAID, strangely, under IDE section.
>
> I haven't found yet relevant information about the SiL stuff, but the
> VIA stuff is what Adaptec calls HostRAID and Linux fakeRAID.
wik
> the motivation behind my question is that it's not clear to me that there is
> such a thing as pure hardware raid. if someone knows of something that
> implements the entire read/write path without a cpu, even with a degraded
> or rebuilding raid, i'd be very interested in that.
Ahh, I see what
> > if a coraid appliance were pcie-attached rather than ethernet attached,
> > would you still ask this question? do you think the block diagram of coraid
> > hardware looks fundamentally different than the block diagram of a raid
> > card?
>
> It's just curiosity. I know the appliance is Plan
On 2011-12-30, at 14:41 PM, Charles Forsyth wrote:
> That's upgrading the stored formats,
Yes.
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That's upgrading the stored formats, not the in-kernel(?) software support
for a particular version?
On 30 December 2011 21:56, Aram Hăvărneanu wrote:
> > zpool/zfs upgrade? Yes. Don't recall if I had to reboot
> > afterwards.
>
> You don't.
>
> --
> Aram Hăvărneanu
>
>
> zpool/zfs upgrade? Yes. Don't recall if I had to reboot
> afterwards.
You don't.
--
Aram Hăvărneanu
On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 21:34:39 GMT Charles Forsyth
wrote:
>
> Could you do the latter without taking the machine down?
>
> On 30 December 2011 21:28, Bakul Shah wrote:
>
> > Since then I have replaced disks with much bigger disks without taking the
> > machine down, upgraded the os & zpool/zfs
On 12/30/2011 3:05 PM, erik quanstrom wrote:
Does the Coraid applience implement RAID in hardware or does it use
fs(3) or another software solution?
if a coraid appliance were pcie-attached rather than ethernet attached,
would you still ask this question? do you think the block diagram of cora
Charles Forsyth wrote:
>> Since then I have replaced disks with much bigger disks without taking the
>> machine down, upgraded the os & zpool/zfs versions a couple of times
>
> Could you do the latter without taking the machine down?
Upgrade zpool/zfs version yes, os, no.
--
Aram Hăvărneanu
Could you do the latter without taking the machine down?
On 30 December 2011 21:28, Bakul Shah wrote:
> Since then I have replaced disks with much bigger disks without taking the
> machine down, upgraded the os & zpool/zfs versions a couple of times
> I don't have much use for AoE at home. At one point I used it to
> network boot machines, but I only have laptops now, which have local
> disks because I need to use them disconnected from the network
> sometimes.
>
> I need a higher level protocol like 9p or venti, and I'd rather have a
> sing
My fileserver is running freebsd zfs. Basically one machine for nfs, venti,
cifs, timemachine + sundry other services. This has worked well since 2005.
Initially I used h/w raid under zfs. This was a mistake, forcibly corrected
when my machine died. Now I use raidz. Since then I have replaced di
> aoe doesn't require solaris, or any other operating system.
> you can use it directly with a plan 9 file server, as i do.
Of course AoE doesn't require much, my comment was in the context of
Coraid's hardware appliance.
I don't have much use for AoE at home. At one point I used it to
network b
> I don't think he was implying that one needed the other. In any case I
> figured I would ask -- are there any plans for a small scale AoE
> appliance from coraid? Didn't there used to be a single drive AoE kit
> long ago?
there was once a single drive pata unit.
> What is the list's person
On 12/30/2011 12:08 PM, erik quanstrom wrote:
It might be a bit
much for home use, but if I had a little bit of a budget I'd use Coraid's AoE
stuff as the basis for my storage.
Yeah, it's pretty overkill. I've previously worked at a storage
company as a file system guy and now I have at home a
> > It might be a bit
> > much for home use, but if I had a little bit of a budget I'd use Coraid's
> > AoE
> > stuff as the basis for my storage.
>
> Yeah, it's pretty overkill. I've previously worked at a storage
> company as a file system guy and now I have at home a nice array with
> ZFS on
Subject factotum auth for commodity web browsers?
Hi,
I have a distant memory of somone talking about adding
factotum support to mozilla or firefox, but I can nolonger
fine a reference - did I imagine it?
Is there such a thing for p9p perhaps?
-Steve
> auth/newns
Aha!
excellent, this is just what I need.
thanks
-Steve
> the problem is as soon as I do that I lost contact with the
> mount command and as its not a shell builtin this means I
> can never get back the namespace I have lost.
auth/newns
> The only solution I can see is to write some C code, but
> I was hoping somone might see a trick I missed.
what are you really trying to accomplish?
- erik
Yes, rfork N is very nearly useless in rc.
In a C program it is more useful, because
you can open file descriptors you need
before and make system calls afterward.
Russ
> don't you just want rfork Nm?
I don't think so, that is worse, this would really mean
I couldn't mount anything.
I don't mind the new app adding mounts if it wants to, but
I want it to start with a new root dir and children, so
I need to flush out the old namespace.
the problem is as soon as I
On Tue Aug 9 08:41:44 EDT 2011, st...@quintile.net wrote:
> Subject rfork N
>
> I want to construct a new namespace for an app, including a new root dir.
> I was hoping to do this with a few lines of script starting with rfork N,
> however this seems to be a dead end.
>
> I can still access kern
Subject rfork N
I want to construct a new namespace for an app, including a new root dir.
I was hoping to do this with a few lines of script starting with rfork N,
however this seems to be a dead end.
I can still access kernel devices directly using the # escape in filenames,
which includes '#s/f
On Mon Apr 25 03:43:36 EDT 2011, st...@quintile.net wrote:
> I don't manage 1920x1080 but I do get 1600x1200x16 from my
> NVidia GeForce2 MX-200. This card is old but its what is in the
> machine and its works.
>
> I must say lots of pixels makes a very nice interface.
i thought i responded to t
I don't manage 1920x1080 but I do get 1600x1200x16 from my
NVidia GeForce2 MX-200. This card is old but its what is in the
machine and its works.
I must say lots of pixels makes a very nice interface.
-Steve
> From: Tharaneedharan Vilwanathan
> Subject: suggestion for a video card
> Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 11:53:58 -0700
>
> hi,
>
> i am looking for a video card for plan9.
>
> here are my requirements:
>
> - should do 1920x1080 at 60Hz so i can connect to my LCD TV via HDMI
> - HDMI connector prefe
On Mon Mar 28 11:20:39 EDT 2011, rminn...@gmail.com wrote:
> Erik, sounds like you need a motor generator ... flames from outlets
> ... wow ... maybe some opto isolators with a 2 meter air gap too :-)
evidently the strike was closer to the neighbors. they lost
all their major appliances, and a he
Erik, sounds like you need a motor generator ... flames from outlets
... wow ... maybe some opto isolators with a 2 meter air gap too :-)
ron
so the front fell off?
--
cinap
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On Mon Mar 28 08:07:44 EDT 2011, st...@quintile.net wrote:
> looks like your web server (quanstro.net) is down.
>
yes, we had a big thunderstorm come by and knock
out power for 4 hrs. we had a strike close enough to
the house to blow up ligh
On Mon Mar 28 08:07:44 EDT 2011, st...@quintile.net wrote:
> looks like your web server (quanstro.net) is down.
>
yes, we had a big thunderstorm come by and knock
out power for 4 hrs. we had a strike close enough to
the house to blow up lightbulbs and shoot flames out
of sockets shortly after po
has anyone using cifs/aquarela had the chance to try
nfactotum with either with the mschap protocol?
(you will need the latest version of nfactotum to have
any hope of success.)
- erik
- erik
POSIX is a standard in which hardly anyone actually adheres too. AIX POSIX
is not Solaris POSIX is not Linux POSIX etc. What good is a standard that
isn't truthfully standardised. Alas I will say that POSIX does add quite a
bit more cross platfom conformity than some other... things... but there a
> surely your joking, mr. nerenberg!
Nope. Over the past 10 years I can only think of one or two projects
I did that required platform-specific optimizations outside of POSIX.
On Tue Mar 9 00:27:59 EST 2010, lyn...@orthanc.ca wrote:
> > But there ought to be a sane
> > alternative and it should not be anywhere as complex.
>
> There is: it's called POSIX.
surely your joking, mr. nerenberg!
- erik
> But there ought to be a sane
> alternative and it should not be anywhere as complex.
There is: it's called POSIX.
> What tools do you have in mind?
>
> This can be true for useful projects but it is not the case with
> Autotools, because it is properly implemented as a useless tool.
No, I do not have the autotools in mind, I share the prevalent dislike
for them.
Just to clarify, I use dot, fgb has ported bo
> Then there cannot possibly be enough to port the auto* abortion.
I hope so too, that would be insane. But there ought to be a sane
alternative and it should not be anywhere as complex. I'm sorry I put
the NetBSD package system in the same basket as the autoconf stuff,
their relationship is mer
lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote:
> That's simple pragmatism. Using Plan 9 without some of the Open
> Source stuff is hard at least for some of us. And there just aren't
> enough Plan 9 developers to produce alternatives. Considering the
> number of useful (if poorly implemented) Open Source tools out
On Mon Mar 8 13:04:41 EST 2010, lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote:
> > You seem to insist on alien software, why is porting software from
> > lunix a prefered solution? Most of the solutions are a.) either to
> > problems we don't even have or b.) so awkward in interfacing you just
> > end up writing a
> And there just aren't
> enough Plan 9 developers to produce alternatives.
Then there cannot possibly be enough to port the auto* abortion.
> You seem to insist on alien software, why is porting software from
> lunix a prefered solution? Most of the solutions are a.) either to
> problems we don't even have or b.) so awkward in interfacing you just
> end up writing a native fork anyway.
That's simple pragmatism. Using Plan 9 without
> Thing is, It's autoconf that needs careful
> redesign:
The question is, why should I care about that all? I have mk(1) and I really
don't need more to build software on Plan9 (rc, awk/sed, etc. come in handy).
You seem to insist on alien software, why is porting software from lunix a
prefere
ay: say no.
On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 4:13 PM, Patrick Kelly wrote:
>
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 9fans-boun...@9fans.net [mailto:9fans-boun...@9fans.net] On Behalf Of
>> lu...@proxima.alt.za
>> Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 11:58 PM
>> To: 9fans
> -Original Message-
> From: 9fans-boun...@9fans.net [mailto:9fans-boun...@9fans.net] On Behalf Of
> lu...@proxima.alt.za
> Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 11:58 PM
> To: 9fans@9fans.net
> Subject: Re: [9fans] (no subject)
>
> >> Agreed wholeheartedly. Thin
>> Thing is, It's autoconf that needs careful
>> redesign
>
> s/redesign/annihilation/
Yes, but even if everybody were to switch to Linux/386 as the only
available platform, there would remain a niche for something like
autoconf, programmers just don't change habits very quickly. The
trick is to
> Thing is, It's autoconf that needs careful
> redesign
s/redesign/annihilation/
> There is already a tool to port plan9port code back to Plan 9.
> See cp(1).
Touche'.
++L
>> I still like to point people at plan 9 ports as an example of a
>> complex system that gets by without this *conf* nonsense.
>
> It falls over just enough to be attacked. Otherwise, p9p source would
> have been ported back to Plan 9 in its entirety. It's a shame,
> really, and with some work i
>> Agreed wholeheartedly. Thing is, It's autoconf that needs careful
>> redesign:
>
> I don't see any need for autoconf. As one wise person put it to me,
> "things like configure and autoconf just mean you don't know how to
> write portable code".
>
Again, agreed, but reality out there suggests
On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 8:22 PM, wrote:
> Agreed wholeheartedly. Thing is, It's autoconf that needs careful
> redesign:
I don't see any need for autoconf. As one wise person put it to me,
"things like configure and autoconf just mean you don't know how to
write portable code".
I still like to
> if you want to make an überpackage, just make your
> überpackage depend on everything else.
Is this what I wanted to know all along?
++L
> I only strongly suggest that you put the contrib gui at the heart of
> what the user sees.
Agreed wholeheartedly. Thing is, It's autoconf that needs careful
redesign: even though contrib/replica is not as comprehensive as a
revision control even when backed by venti, it is unmatched for Plan 9
> Thing is, the "port" hierarchy (hereto I used "NetBSD package system"
> for the same concept) provides both the hierarchical structure I
> believe is needed to minimise duplication and a description file to
> search for concepts rather than file names. So, yes, I agree with a
> portion of your s
code-code is better than talk-talk :-) (absolutely no offense
intended, I just enjoyed the phrase!)
i.e. I think a proof of concept will get your further than discussion.
It seems to me you could
even make a copy of the sources tree, set up your idea, and put it out
there for people to try.
I onl
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