Re: [9fans] native install

2010-04-11 Thread Gabriel Diaz Lopez de la Llave
hello I have it booting now. I did a disk/format using the 9load from the cdboot image, and the 9pcf kernel from the iso. Now i'm getting messages about caught missed ide interrupts. . .and this slows down disk operations a lot, i guess first fossil dump to venti will take ages. now i'm

Re: [9fans] native install

2010-04-11 Thread Gabriel Diaz Lopez de la Llave
hello Seems I fell again in the bios ahci set up trap. Checking the BIOS options seems it was in Enhaced Ide mode instead of Enhaced AHCI mode. Now the iso works perfectly. For those of you looking for a modern PC to run plan9, this is what i have: * asus P6T SE * Core i7 (4 core works) * 4GB

Re: [9fans] native install

2010-04-11 Thread erik quanstrom
I have it booting now. I did a disk/format using the 9load from the cdboot image, and the 9pcf kernel from the iso. Now i'm getting messages about caught missed ide interrupts. . . and this slows down disk operations a lot, i guess first fossil dump to venti will take ages. now i'm stuck at

Re: [9fans] native install

2010-04-11 Thread erik quanstrom
9atom from this weekend boots and install with no problems setting up AHCI mode first. please send your pci output anyway. ide should work. even if *nomp=1 so to do that we'll need to do the pcirouting stuff, and for that we need a southbridge pci vid/did. - erik

Re: [9fans] native install

2010-04-10 Thread Gabriel Diaz
Hello erik, Saturday, April 10, 2010, 4:26:09 AM, you wrote: On Fri Apr 9 16:21:35 EDT 2010, e...@sandien.com wrote: Actually I would like to see this too. Maybe if you could post the specs to the list it would generally be helpful. here's what i've recently tested with 9atom: 1: (atom

Re: [9fans] native install

2010-04-10 Thread erik quanstrom
I have an ASUS P6T SE with a Core i7 and 4gb of ram and it can boot with 9atom.iso and install. But something is happening that prevent it to boot after the install (i got a register dump. may be something wrong happened when doing the format of 9fat :?). Network also works. And Vesa

Re: [9fans] native install

2010-04-10 Thread Gabriel Diaz
Hello erik, Saturday, April 10, 2010, 2:54:01 PM, you wrote: I have an ASUS P6T SE with a Core i7 and 4gb of ram and it can boot with 9atom.iso and install. But something is happening that prevent it to boot after the install (i got a register dump. may be something wrong happened

Re: [9fans] native install

2010-04-10 Thread erik quanstrom
This is the 9load panic (manually transcribed): PBS2. . . Plan 9 From Bell Labs no vga; serial console only cpu0: 2675MHz i7 loop 142773 apm ax=f000 cx=f000 dx=40 di=100 ebx= esi=0 found 11 e820 entries flags=10a07 trap=e ecode=2 pc=0x800377ff ax 8002c391 bx cx

Re: [9fans] native install

2010-04-09 Thread Tom West
I'm going to be buying something soon. I'd like to follow your lead. Thanks, Tom West On Mar 24, 2010, at 3:48 PM, Steve Simon wrote: I recently built a machine using a dualcore atom card from supermicro its quick, draws very little power and is rock solid. email me for the details if you

Re: [9fans] native install

2010-04-09 Thread EBo
Actually I would like to see this too. Maybe if you could post the specs to the list it would generally be helpful. I'm going to be buying something soon. I'd like to follow your lead. I recently built a machine using a dualcore atom card from supermicro its quick, draws very little power

Re: [9fans] native install

2010-03-29 Thread Georg Lehner
erik quanstrom wrote: P.S.: Though the interface is really brilliant, it does not work out well for a lefty with a german keyboard layout :-/ you can change the layout: kbmap(1), kbin(3), kbmap(3). - erik Ok, i know kbmap :) This 'leftys are poor people' feeling comes from

Re: [9fans] native install

2010-03-29 Thread Georg Lehner
maht wrote: Until today i'm just a stubborn believer in Plan9. Real world experience with this system is, that nothing else works (out of the box) and nobody else uses it, besides people working with and for Plan9 just for the sake of it. Sorry to hear you think like that. I've been using

Re: [9fans] native install

2010-03-29 Thread erik quanstrom
I would also be happy to hear about how non-coding activities are typically handled by using a Plan9 system. what non-coding activities? ☺ - erik

Re: [9fans] native install

2010-03-29 Thread michael block
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 13:57, Georg Lehner jorge-pl...@magma.com.ni wrote: Would right/left-handed dvorak be a good choice to keep one hand on the mouse and the other on the keyboard? it works alright for web browsing or if you're just typing english (and probably german as well), but you

Re: [9fans] native install

2010-03-29 Thread maht
On 29/03/2010 21:07, Georg Lehner wrote: maht wrote: Until today i'm just a stubborn believer in Plan9. Real world experience with this system is, that nothing else works (out of the box) and nobody else uses it, besides people working with and for Plan9 just for the sake of it. Sorry to

Re: [9fans] native install

2010-03-29 Thread Corey
On Monday 29 March 2010 13:07:23 Georg Lehner wrote: The recent survey of how Plan9 inventors use Plan9 today (it seems mostly they don't) has cast some shadow of doubt on me that day to day computer work is ideally done on a Plan9 terminal. Day to day computer work will not generally be

Re: [9fans] native install

2010-03-29 Thread ron minnich
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 1:58 PM, Corey co...@bitworthy.net wrote: Plan9: an old-school IDE and a file server wrapped into one. The mind reels. Sometimes, less is _not_ more. OK, that's it, we're not going to let you use it any more. :-) ron

Re: [9fans] native install

2010-03-29 Thread erik quanstrom
Day to day computer work will not generally be done on a Plan9 terminal until Glenda finally overcomes her profoundly crippling case of automysophobia. Unfortunately however, it appears that she is surrounded by folks who are single-mindedly determined to keep her inside a sterile plastic

Re: [9fans] native install

2010-03-29 Thread Patrick Kelly
On Mar 29, 2010, at 4:16 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: I would also be happy to hear about how non-coding activities are typically handled by using a Plan9 system. what non-coding activities? ☺ Surely you have played mahjongg at least once! - erik

Re: [9fans] native install

2010-03-28 Thread Georg Lehner
David Leimbach wrote: I'm glad there's another person out there with 4 machines running plan 9. That's really great. I never got beyond 2 :-) [..] file/auth/cpu server at home: DFI-ACP Board: G5C100-N, Intel 945GM ICH7M installable only eriks 9atom.iso file/auth/cpu server at work: some

Re: [9fans] native install

2010-03-28 Thread maht
Until today i'm just a stubborn believer in Plan9. Real world experience with this system is, that nothing else works (out of the box) and nobody else uses it, besides people working with and for Plan9 just for the sake of it. Sorry to hear you think like that. I've been using Plan9 for about

Re: [9fans] native install

2010-03-28 Thread erik quanstrom
Until today i'm just a stubborn believer in Plan9. Real world experience with this system is, that nothing else works (out of the box) and nobody else uses it, besides people working with and for Plan9 just for the sake of it. speaking only for myself: http://www.coraid.com.

Re: [9fans] native install

2010-03-26 Thread Federico G. Benavento
if the ethernet address is broken you can try to see if the nic is still usable by setting promiscuous mode on... I had the a problem years ago with andrey's sis900 driver (the one in the distribution didn't work with my nic), when I changed from a terminal to a 9pcf kernel it stopped working!

Re: [9fans] native install

2010-03-25 Thread Jacob Todd
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 09:35:39PM -0400, erik quanstrom wrote: could you define doesn't work? any errors? - erik When I boot plan 9, the message `probing ether' is printed and then `auto neg something' is printed a second or two after that. I can find out what the actual message is later.

Re: [9fans] native install

2010-03-25 Thread erik quanstrom
When I boot plan 9, the message `probing ether' is printed and then `auto neg something' is printed a second or two after that. I can find out what the actual message is later. the output of /n/sources/contrib/quanstro/sosether would be useful. - erik

Re: [9fans] native install

2010-03-25 Thread Steve Simon
When I boot plan 9, the message `probing ether' is printed and then `auto neg something' is printed a second or two after that. I can find out what the actual message is later. If the message is printed by the kernel rather than 9load you can find it by typing: cat /dev/kmesg

Re: [9fans] native install

2010-03-25 Thread Jacob Todd
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 09:25:19AM -0400, erik quanstrom wrote: the output of /n/sources/contrib/quanstro/sosether would be useful. - erik pci 0.4.0: net 02.00.00 1039/0900 4 0:1801 256 1:e4003000 4096 interfaces kmesg: Plan 9 E820: 0009f400 memory E820: 0009f400

Re: [9fans] native install

2010-03-25 Thread erik quanstrom
I've also noticed that the man page for plan9.ini(8), it says On the SiS controllers, the Ethernet address is not detected properly; specify it with an ea= attribute. Is ea= supposed to be set to the actual ip address (the man page says physical network adress)? If so that's probably my

Re: [9fans] native install

2010-03-25 Thread Jacob Todd
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 11:43:36AM -0400, erik quanstrom wrote: I've also noticed that the man page for plan9.ini(8), it says On the SiS controllers, the Ethernet address is not detected properly; specify it with an ea= attribute. Is ea= supposed to be set to the actual ip address (the

Re: [9fans] native install

2010-03-25 Thread erik quanstrom
Is ea= supposed to be set to the actual ip address (the man page says physical network adress)? If so that's probably my problem. ea is supposed to be an ethernet address. ethernet addresses have the format ea=112233445566 where 1-6 are *lowercase* hex digits. the first

Re: [9fans] native install

2010-03-25 Thread Steve Simon
Sorry for my ignorance, but how would I find out the ethernet address(es)? A long shot, somtimes its printed on the card (PCI or PCMCIA), but othertimes it is not. The important fact is that you must not use the same address as any other device on the same physical network. -Steve

Re: [9fans] native install

2010-03-25 Thread Jorden Mauro
Someone should put this whole thread on the wiki

[9fans] native install

2010-03-24 Thread EBo
I just wanted to take a moment to thank Iru and Erik for their help with getting Plan 9 installed natively on my 4 machines. While I'm still having some difficulties with SATA/IDE issues, and non-supported ethernet devices, at least now I can test native support as well as hosted inferno,

Re: [9fans] native install

2010-03-24 Thread David Leimbach
I'm glad there's another person out there with 4 machines running plan 9. That's really great. I never got beyond 2 :-) Dave On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 2:59 AM, EBo e...@sandien.com wrote: I just wanted to take a moment to thank Iru and Erik for their help with getting Plan 9 installed

Re: [9fans] native install

2010-03-24 Thread Richard Miller
I'm glad there's another person out there with 4 machines running plan 9. Six here. Only three actually switched on at this moment.

Re: [9fans] native install

2010-03-24 Thread Francisco J Ballesteros
About 4 * 40 here (students) plus our terminals and servers (4, 5 people, depends). On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Richard Miller 9f...@hamnavoe.com wrote: I'm glad there's another person out there with 4 machines running plan 9. Six here.  Only three actually switched on at this moment.

Re: [9fans] native install

2010-03-24 Thread andrey mirtchovski
64 at one time. 0 now.

Re: [9fans] native install

2010-03-24 Thread erik quanstrom
On Wed Mar 24 11:24:04 EDT 2010, n...@lsub.org wrote: About 4 * 40 here (students) plus our terminals and servers (4, 5 people, depends). On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Richard Miller 9f...@hamnavoe.com wrote: I'm glad there's another person out there with 4 machines running plan 9.

Re: [9fans] native install

2010-03-24 Thread Steve Simon
Only two, one home and one work, Drawterm is usually active on another two or three Mac/PCs. -Steve

Re: [9fans] native install

2010-03-24 Thread Gabriel Diaz Lopez de la Llave
hello from 1 to 3. . .vmware or qemu (all of them).. . .i'm thinking in buying a modern PC in which i can run it natively...suggestions? gabi El 24/03/2010, a las 17:05, Steve Simon escribió: Only two, one home and one work, Drawterm is usually active on another two or three Mac/PCs.

Re: [9fans] native install

2010-03-24 Thread Steve Simon
I recently built a machine using a dualcore atom card from supermicro its quick, draws very little power and is rock solid. email me for the details if you like. -Steve (Thanks to erik for 9atom bits).

Re: [9fans] native install

2010-03-24 Thread EBo
from 1 to 3. . .vmware or qemu (all of them).. . .i'm thinking in buying a modern PC in which i can run it natively...suggestions? While I have not bought one yet (money's a little tight at the moment), take a look at http://open-pc.com/. At least since everything is open, even if the device

Re: [9fans] native install

2010-03-24 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg (VE6BBM/VE7TFX)
I have three native machines: Supermicro 5015A-H w/500GB IDE: fossil/venti/auth/dhcpd/tftpd Supermicro 5015A-H (diskless): CPU server Via EPIA-EK (1GHz C3 Eden-N processor) (diskless): terminal When I move back onto the boat I will be adding another CPU server with a whack of serial ports

Re: [9fans] native install

2010-03-24 Thread John Floren
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 4:11 PM, EBo e...@sandien.com wrote: from 1 to 3. . .vmware or qemu (all of them).. . .i'm thinking in buying a modern PC in which i can run it natively...suggestions? While I have not bought one yet (money's a little tight at the moment), take a look at

Re: [9fans] native install

2010-03-24 Thread erik quanstrom
Should there be something on the wiki/elsewhere where people can post the specs of computers they are using and what hardware works/doesn't work? The supported hardware list tends to be a bit vague; I'd like something where I could look at a list of components for an entire Plan 9 compatible

Re: [9fans] native install

2010-03-24 Thread David du Colombier
I have the following Plan 9 File servers at home, with the following motherboards : - one Supermicro X7SLA-H, with 3 TB of storage, my new main fileserver, - two Intel S815EBM1, one is running 9grid.fr, other is used for testing. I have also many CPU servers and terminals. Most are old IBM

Re: [9fans] native install

2010-03-24 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
at 9netics and rangboom (different locations), there are 4 cpus, 2 kenfs, multiple terms (vmware) and drawterm. for a project at a client's site, there are: 7+ cpus (sheevaplug, laptops), a cpu+auth+fossil/venti server and term (vmware) and drawterm.

Re: [9fans] native install

2010-03-24 Thread Jacob Todd
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 04:19:59PM -0400, John Floren wrote: I think for 360 Euro, I could build a better, Plan 9-compatible machine and *not* donate money to the KDE project while I'm at it. Should there be something on the wiki/elsewhere where people can post the specs of computers they

Re: [9fans] native install

2010-03-24 Thread erik quanstrom
My Dell Inspiron 1000 mostly works. I haven't tested the PC Card slot. Audio most likely doesn't work, and the sis900 driver doesn't work and I haven't tested the other sis900 driver from here[1]. Everything else is fine. could you define doesn't work? any errors? - erik

Re: [9fans] native install

2010-03-24 Thread Maht
I'd like something where I could look at a list of components for an entire Plan 9 compatible machine, or see if anybody else is still using component X. John If it's been thrown in the trash, it should work great! I mean that as a slur against the upgrade cycle rather than Plan9, I have

Re: [9fans] native install

2010-03-24 Thread Federico G. Benavento
1 MSI G31TM-P21 /Q8200/500GB cpu/everything server (the full specs are somewhere in the list) + a constant drawterm running on win laptop -- Federico G. Benavento

[9fans] Native Install P3 800 mhz INTEL

2009-05-24 Thread jt
Hello all, Firstly I would like to thank all of those on this list that have helped me in #plan9. Secondly I'm excited to work on getting plan9 work on my XO. Finally, I'm trying to get plan9 (latest plan9.iso.bz2 from kix.in) to work on my ancient p3 800mhz box. I am currently stuck at