Firstly, congratulations to Lucio on the progress with getting Fossil running
under 9front. A heartfelt thank you to everyone who offered their support and
assistance to make this possible! I only say this as a person who wants to
celebrate successes.
FWIW, I’d like to help clarify the additio
At this point I can't really tell if you're using some LLM to be ironic or if
you actually think this junk
is of any substance. I am not sure how you don't see this copy pasta garbage as
anything else than a waste
of everyone else's inbox and time.
On 5/15/24 00:55, vic.thac...@fastmail.fm wrote
On Wed, May 15, 2024, at 15:11, Jacob Moody wrote:
> At this point I can't really tell if you're using some LLM to be ironic
> or if you actually think this junk
> is of any substance. I am not sure how you don't see this copy pasta
> garbage as anything else than a waste
> of everyone else's inb
It doesn't. I don't know if you're a troll or just not clever enough to
understand that you make everybody uncomfortable.
Hope this helps.
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Hey vic,
There are a few different issues I see with your mails:
First and most obvious, they sound like they're generated by some LLM (playing
captain obvious here). People don't like to see this, it might be related to
some language barrier. That impression is also supported by the content.
On Wed, May 15, 2024, at 16:39, pl...@room3420.net wrote:
> It doesn't. I don't know if you're a troll or just not clever enough to
> understand that you make everybody uncomfortable.
> Hope this helps.
Well, I am disappointed that you feel that way. I am definitely not a troll nor
am I that cl
>On Wed, 15 May 2024 10:38:53 +0200 (GMT+02:00)
>sirjofri wrote:
>
> Hey vic,
>
> There are a few different issues I see with your mails:
> Last, we're not a company. People who do the work are the ones
> organizing. Those people don't like to see strangers organizing their
> stuff without any c
15.05.2024 11:17:46 vic.thac...@fastmail.fm:
> Not everyone here is uncomfortable, but like you, I'm disappointed in how
> interactions have turned out, so we have that in common. I respond to
> empirical evidence, so I mentioned the concern about submitting feature and
> bug requests because it
it's not much of a degree if they don't require you to read Strunk & White
On Wed, May 15, 2024 at 11:18 AM wrote:
>
> On Wed, May 15, 2024, at 16:39, pl...@room3420.net wrote:
> > It doesn't. I don't know if you're a troll or just not clever enough to
> > understand that you make everybody uncom
On Wed, May 15, 2024, at 19:35, hiro wrote:
> it's not much of a degree if they don't require you to read Strunk & White
Sure, I'll show you an example.
It was one of the best scholarships available. You should have seen my writing
before. ;-)
Uriel admired Strunk & White. Today, many colleges
Quoth vic.thac...@fastmail.fm:
> A better solution might be to inform others on how to interface with
> each community. For example, providing clear instructions on how to
> submit feature and bug requests. This is something I haven’t seen
> mentioned recently. It would be beneficial for each co
On Wed, May 15, 2024, at 17:38, sirjofri wrote:
> Hey vic,
...
> Write your mails. Write them, don't send them. Read them again
> carefully and think about the people reading it. They most likely
> understand as much as you, and they have all the track record of
> earlier discussions, so they ve
This thread is perhaps one of the best examples of the bizarre ecosystem
that Plan 9 has evolved (devolved?) into. While I have not always
understood Vic's choices, I was, in the past, aware of his /position/ at
certain entities... and provided him with security information I hoped was
relevant to
Quoth vic.thac...@fastmail.fm:
> Sadly, I don't have what it takes to bridge the gap. I think that my
> idea of mending the communities is too grand. Also, I'm saddened
> to see the more I try to help the worse the situation becomes.
The communities are mending more or less fine, at least
among
15.05.2024 16:18:49 Don Bailey :
> This thread is perhaps one of the best examples of the bizarre ecosystem that
> Plan 9 has evolved (devolved?) into. While I have not always understood Vic's
> choices, I was, in the past, aware of his /position/ at certain entities...
> and provided him with s
Yeah that's the thing, the few of us that have been around for 20 years
enjoyed the discussion as much as the engineering. But the discussion was
always around what to/not to do and how to do it. I was probably the
biggest outsider, as my career prior to diving into Plan 9 was classical
violin. I b
On 5/15/24 09:18, Don Bailey wrote:
> This thread is perhaps one of the best examples of the bizarre ecosystem that
> Plan 9 has evolved (devolved?) into. While I have not always understood Vic's
> choices, I was, in the past, aware of his /position/ at certain entities...
> and provided him wit
15.05.2024 17:04:56 Don Bailey :
> Yeah that's the thing, the few of us that have been around for 20 years
> enjoyed the discussion as much as the engineering. But the discussion was
> always around what to/not to do and how to do it. I was probably the biggest
> outsider, as my career prior to
> That said, I have been excited by the developments in the 9front and 9legacy,
> etc, groups, even if I don't fully agree with all the decision making. It at
> least means people are still interested in building, and that's a good
> start...
to agree with the decision making it helps to be par
On Wed, May 15, 2024 at 05:20:21PM GMT, sirjofri wrote:
>
> Agreeing is not necessary. There are many topics where we don't have to agree
> to be a community. For example, I'd like to see libxml in 9front, but the
> decision makers decided against it. More recently, people wished for fossil
> t
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