[abcusers] in defense to ABC

2000-10-31 Thread Guido Gonzato
Hi all, abc received its share of thrashing lately, didn't it? So I thought it would be fair to say a couple of words in its defense... Far from stating that abc is *the* music format of heavens and earth, let's remind that the types of music it currently supports is amazingly large. I don't kno

[abcusers] jaabcm2ps on SourceForge?

2000-10-31 Thread Guido Gonzato
John, Laura, this message is for you in particular. I'm wondering if John wishes to join us and become a SourceForge developer? He could just upload his stuff there, so that I could arrange for small things like providing binaries, polishing the archives a bit etc. John, how about it? Later,

Re: [abcusers] jaabcm2ps on SourceForge?

2000-10-31 Thread Laura Conrad
> "Guido" == Guido Gonzato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Guido> this message is for you in particular. I'm wondering if Guido> John wishes to join us and become a SourceForge developer? He has. (Actually, both John Atchley and John Chambers have.) We now have 7 developers signed up.

[abcusers] tall or short bar lines

2000-10-31 Thread Guido Gonzato
Hi all, I'm going to touch a subject that I know some of you have strong feelings against. The most apparent difference between abc2ps and abcm2ps is the looks of bar lines: the latter has tall bar lines that cross the vocal part. IIRC, John set out to write jabcm2ps because he couldn't stand tho

[abcusers] Sorry wrong address re : Pirate CDROMS (SOFTWARE).

2000-10-31 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: [abcusers] jaabcm2ps on SourceForge?

2000-10-31 Thread Atchley, John
Done! I signed up over the weekend. I tried to upload the RPMs to the pub directory last night and was refused permission, both as anonymous and using my sourceforge account and password. Once I figure sourceforge out I'll upload the RPMs. BTW, I swatted a couple of minor bugs that haven't mad

Re: [abcusers] jaabcm2ps on SourceForge?

2000-10-31 Thread Laura Conrad
> "John" == Atchley, John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: John> Does anybody know if ghostscript/ghostview 6.something is John> available for linux platforms? Yes, if you go to the homepage, ftp://ftp.cs.wisc.edu/ghost/gnu/. -- Laura (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] , http://www.laymusic.org

Re: [abcusers] in defense to ABC

2000-10-31 Thread Laura Conrad
> "Guido" == Guido Gonzato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Guido> abc received its share of thrashing lately, didn't it? I don't think that's quite what anyone was intending to do. Someone asked what Finale could do that ABC couldn't, and people answered that question. I admit I have

Re: [abcusers] tall or short bar lines

2000-10-31 Thread John Walsh
Guido Gonzato writes: >While I'm at it, I may just as well ask for more. Imagine a scheme like >this: a SATB choral part and a piano/organ accompaniment. The SATB staves >could be linked by tall bar lines, but not the piano part. So, something >like: > This may be a question of language. I'

RE: [abcusers] jaabcm2ps on SourceForge?

2000-10-31 Thread Atchley, John
I must be going blind in my old age. I was there yesterday and would have sworn the distributions were all 5.something! ;-) > -Original Message- > From: Laura Conrad > Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 10:08 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [abcusers] jaabcm2ps on SourceFo

Re: [abcusers] tall or short bar lines

2000-10-31 Thread jc
John Walsh writes: | While I'm at it, I think it may also be useful to have invisible | bar lines. These could be used in difficult cases to aid the alignment | of notes between staves carrying different voices, or having different | meters (in polyrhythmic music) or when there is

Re: [abcusers] jaabcm2ps on SourceForge?

2000-10-31 Thread Laura Conrad
> "John" == Atchley, John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: John> I must be going blind in my old age. I was there yesterday John> and would have sworn the distributions were all 5.something! John> ;-) You're right, they are. Try http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/. -- Laura (mailto:[EM

Re: [abcusers] tall or short bar lines

2000-10-31 Thread jc
John Walsh writes: | While I'm at it, I think it may also be useful to have invisible | bar lines. These could be used in difficult cases to aid the alignment | of notes between staves carrying different voices, or having different | meters (in polyrhythmic music) or when there is

RE: [abcusers] Update to jaabc2ps

2000-10-31 Thread Jack Campin
> gets() is only used in one place (in the original abc2ps code, at that). > Where it is used is in the interactive function and it is used to get user > input to select tunes. The buffer is 500+ characters, and it's *highly* > unlikely that the user is going to enter more characters than that

Re: [abcusers] tall or short bar lines

2000-10-31 Thread Laura Conrad
> "jc" == jc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: jc> One thing that I wondered about a while back, but didn't get any jc> response from: I've seen music that uses a "broken bar", in the form jc> of short vertical dashes (either between the staff lines or crossing jc> them).

Re: [abcusers] tall or short bar lines

2000-10-31 Thread John Atchley
On Tue, 31 Oct 2000, Guido Gonzato wrote: > So my question is: > > John, could you add an option to jabcm2ps to toggle tall bar lines on/off? > Jean François, would you do the same? I'll take a look at it. The change I made for this was only a few lines of code, but I remember that it did i

RE: [abcusers] Update to jaabc2ps

2000-10-31 Thread John Atchley
I "fixed" it (though only to shut up an irritating gcc linker message). Frankly, if I were the user in your scenario I'd rather see an immediate "phut" then watch tons of error messages fill the screen as the parser strives valiantly to make sense of the garbage I inadvertently pasted in. On Mon

Re: [abcusers] Questions about abcm2ps

2000-10-31 Thread John Atchley
On Tue, 31 Oct 2000, Guido Gonzato wrote: > I can only help you on this question. Dynamics marks < and > are not > currently supported in abcm2ps, but they are in another abc2ps variant, > jabcm2ps (http://www.guitarnut.com/abc/index.html). Actually, I've been calling it jaabc2ps, even though it

Re: [abcusers] tall or short bar lines

2000-10-31 Thread Laura Conrad
> "John" == John Atchley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: John> Rather than risk abc that might break some existing parsers, John> it might be better to use a syntax like %%stavesex ... Maybe it's my dirty mind, but I'd vote against that particular name. -- Laura (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECT

Re: [abcusers] Update to jaabc2ps

2000-10-31 Thread jc
| > gets() is only used in one place (in the original abc2ps code, at that). | > Where it is used is in the interactive function and it is used to get user | > input to select tunes. The buffer is 500+ characters, and it's *highly* | > unlikely that the user is going to enter more chara

Re: [abcusers] Questions about abcm2ps

2000-10-31 Thread jc
John Atchley writes: | Also, I'll be moving the distribution files to source forge once I figure out how to | get sourceforge to let me do so. Hmmm ... So I'm not the only one with this problem. When you figure it out, how about you pass on the word (or a URL for the inst

SourceForge development environment questions (was: Re: [abcusers] Questions about abcm2ps)

2000-10-31 Thread Laura Conrad
> "John" == jc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: John> I've been registered as a developer since May. I've John> periodically wandered around to see what they have, and see John> what I can learn. I still haven't stumbled across the info John> on how to put things into cvs. Or,