Re: [AI] signs or thumb marks for the VI on important documents

2013-09-28 Thread Vedprakash
On fine scrutiny, one can distinguish between putting a stamp and making a signature. Without prior permission from an appropriate authority, one cannot use stamp in place of signatures. - Original Message - From: Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing

Re: [AI] signs or thumb marks for the VI on important documents

2013-09-27 Thread Ekinath Khedekar
Hi Please don’t give in to insistence of signing the document immediately. You can even magistrate or any authority to render you time as you are a VI. I use both thumb and signature together or mostly separately depending on significance, long term/short term financial impact and room for

Re: [AI] signs or thumb marks for the VI on important documents

2013-09-27 Thread Ekinath Khedekar
Hi I forgot to share one more idea. It’s a simple one : You can tell a stamp maker to make a stamp of your signature with out borders to it. There are stamps available with out edge boundary and self contained ink. It’s quite portable. However, yu do have risk being denied in front of any

Re: [AI] signs or thumb marks for the VI on important documents

2013-09-27 Thread Shireen Irani
oh ya. even i've always wanted to know whether stamps can do absolutely anywhere. do banks allow using stamps?? to what extent can they be used for legal transactions etc. legal experts please enlighten. thanx. On 9/28/13, Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I forgot to share one more

Re: [AI] signs or thumb marks for the VI on important documents

2013-09-26 Thread avinash shahi
Dear Maitreya Thank you for putting this concern on public fora. Though I'm not very experienced, because it comes from age, they say. but I think, if visually challenged are denied many services and designations solely on ground of not able to sign, better There has to be classes across India to

Re: [AI] signs or thumb marks for the VI on important documents

2013-09-26 Thread bhawani shankar verma
what about those blind people who don't have computers, don't know computers and not enough money to buy it? will the soft copy help them. -Original Message- From: avinash shahi Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 11:52 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues

Re: [AI] signs or thumb marks for the VI on important documents

2013-09-26 Thread avinash shahi
This is the exact reason We have been advocating and fighting for the right to laptops and desktops for all blind students across universities in India. JNU, DU, HCU, and EFLOU have done this; rest have to brought on board... And each member on Access India has his-her responsibility to work for

Re: [AI] signs or thumb marks for the VI on important documents

2013-09-26 Thread Vedprakash
Though I am not against lap tops or technology, I do not think the problem of the documents having been read to us or known to us correctly before these documents are signed or thumbed by us, can be resolved by distribution of lap tops. I work in a Government school. I have to sign numerous

Re: [AI] signs or thumb marks for the VI on important documents

2013-09-26 Thread jignesh thakur
it is not easy to scann and read each document. The issue of Unified signature also must be discussed. Being totally blind it is tough to sign the same way each time. I couldn’t open demate account in my name just because my signature differed. I tried signature guide and other known products but

Re: [AI] signs or thumb marks for the VI on important documents

2013-09-26 Thread avinash shahi
Difficulties can not be overcome forthwith. And all of us have to work in diverse work-culture and diverse peer groups. Hopefully paperless work ethics will find its way in offices soon. On 9/26/13, Vedprakash vedprakash.sha...@gmail.com wrote: Though I am not against lap tops or technology, I do

Re: [AI] signs or thumb marks for the VI on important documents

2013-09-26 Thread Shireen Irani
sorry, what is a signature guide?? where is it available?? some details please. and i think its only fair to get the person who brings the document to read it to u at least the relevant bits before u sign, if u dont have any1 else more trust worthy around. usually in matters of a serious nature,

Re: [AI] signs or thumb marks for the VI on important documents

2013-09-26 Thread Vedprakash
In case of a property sail, you have no time. the signature is to be put in the presence of both parties and the magistrate. There is a limitted time alotted to the clients. The courts are so crowded these days. - Original Message - From: Shireen Irani shireen@gmail.com To:

Re: [AI] signs or thumb marks for the VI on important documents

2013-09-26 Thread akhilesh
In case of a property sail, you have no time. the signature is to be put in the presence of both parties and the magistrate. There is a limitted time alotted to the clients. No no. That is very reckless aproach to force the client to sign the property documents in a hurry. you can take the time

Re: [AI] signs or thumb marks for the VI on important documents

2013-09-26 Thread maitreya shah
hi all, thanks for your wonderful reply . here , one more thing , i was denyed by many government departments for signing documents saying that thumb mark is compulsory for blind . also ,before sometime ,when i was giving my thumb marks for passport , there were so many documents to be signed and

Re: [AI] signs or thumb marks for the VI on important documents

2013-09-26 Thread Vivekananda Doddamani.
in case of purchase of property both signature thumb ipression is necessary because in Shimoga in Karnataka recently I purchased land and there I had to do both in registrar office, related to reading of documents always in such time you should accompany with of any sighted person who is very

[AI] signs or thumb marks for the VI on important documents

2013-09-25 Thread maitreya shah
hi all, here i would like to draw your attention on an serious matter . in today's time ,when we can't trust on anyone ,if the matter is of money or property . so what precautions should be taken while signing through thumb marks on important documents ? if the documents are in hard copy then it

Re: [AI] signs or thumb marks for the VI on important documents

2013-09-25 Thread akhilesh
don't sign or put thumb impression On 9/26/13, maitreya shah shah.maitrey...@gmail.com wrote: hi all, here i would like to draw your attention on an serious matter . in today's time ,when we can't trust on anyone ,if the matter is of money or property . so what precautions should be taken

Re: [AI] signs or thumb marks for the VI on important documents

2013-09-25 Thread akhilesh
Sorry for last incomplete mail. You can ask them to sign the document in later date. keep it with you and read it with your sighted friends. for the double check, you may choose to make someone read the same document again for you. On 9/26/13, akhilesh akhil.akhi...@gmail.com wrote: don't sign