My
company has decided not to use ADMT. We are in the market for a migration
tool. We checked with Bindview and were
told they do not sell their products without also selling "Professional
Services" .We are not interested in
Professional Services. Can any of you
recommend a good
migration
Title: Message
Fastlane. We used it here and it was excellent. Excellent support as
well. They have a suite of tools to handle all parts of the
migration.
http://www.quest.com/migration/
-Original Message-From: Ellis, Debbie
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Freitag, 14.
I'm not involved directly but my team has been evaluation the Aleita tool. This
handles profile updates.
They are looking at methods to migrate 60,000 users in two orgs
so there is quite a bit to look at.
Not sure if this tool is suitable for your environment. I believe they only look at
Do not remind me of Aelita and profile updates, it was a total disaster
at my site.
A script I wrote myself in 2 hours worked a lot better.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: vrijdag 14 november 2003 13:52
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE:
I just noticed the topic says Exchange 200
gimme a break, ITs EARLY!
Joe
Pelle
Systems Analyst
Information Technology
Valassis / IT
19975 Victor Parkway Livonia, MI
48152
Tel 734.591.7324 Fax 734.632.6151
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http://www.valassis.com/
This message may have
That must be a REALLY old version of
Exchange J
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Pelle, Joe
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003
8:19 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT:
Mailbox Manager for Exchange 200
I just
I used NetIQ DMA and Fastlane Migrator before. I like NetIQ better than any other
migration tools.
Whats wrong with ADMT? limited functionality?
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Ellis, Debbie
Sent: Fri 11/14/2003 5:26 AM
To:
Excellent, thank you
-Original Message-
From: Jef Kazimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 15:58
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: re: [ActiveDir] cleanup AD connections after move server to
different site
Cindy,
Verify the Subnet data is
Return Receipt
Your RE: [ActiveDir] cleanup AD connections after move server to
document diffe rent site
:
I am looking for some good reference materials or step by step procedure for doing an
Exchange Migration from 2000 to 2003.
Thanks,
Santhosh
winmail.dat
Title: Message
Have
you looked at the Microsoft site?
Specifically the Exchange 2003 Deployment Guide.doc
Joshua Morgan
AIMCO
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Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 8:51
Ok. I found it.
http://microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=77B6D819-C7B3-42D1-8FBB-FE6339FFA1EDdisplaylang=en
-Original Message-
From: Sivarajan, Santhosh on behalf of Sivarajan, Santhosh
Sent: Fri 11/14/2003 7:51 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The E2K3 deployment guide provides a lot of usefull info ...
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/prodtechn
ol/exchange/Exchange2003/proddocs/library/DepGuide.asp
Cheers!
John
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:
Just so everyone is clear on this subject...BindView will sell our
NT/NDS migration tools to anyone. The Exchange migration tool however
is now sold as a service. We recently changed this to help
organizations expedite their Exchange migrations. As you all know
Exchange migrations can be
My organization wants to include both in purchasing a migration tool. Why
buy one tool for AD migration and another tool for Exchange migration? We
don't need to buy the service.
-Original Message-
From: DiBias, Chip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 9:21 AM
To:
What I
meant by after a few patches is, we started with the 6.01 version and during the
migration of our first site, they came out with 6.02. We had a lot of
problems with 6.01 with the service stopping unexpectely and some other
oddities. Once we upgraded to 6.02, everything has been
We are planning on using Aelita.. Can you be more descriptive on why it was
a disaster?
_
Raymond C. Gayoso
Fidelity Investments-Southwest
FISG ISS Team
FESCo
(817)474-8937
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Original Message-
From: Leeuwen van, JWJ (Joost) [mailto:[EMAIL
We were moving our users from a NT4 domain to a Windows 2000 domain,
that part went pretty well.
Since we are using local profiles on our Windows XP machines the
profiles had to be made available to the users in the new domain.
Simply put, the Aelita logfile told us it processed all the PC's, but
Joe,
It is
built into the product. Use the
SysMngr MMC and highlight Recipient Policies. Select new policy and mailbox manager and you are on your
way
R/Bill
-Original
Message-
From: Pelle, Joe
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003
8:15 AM
To: [EMAIL
Awesome, thanks!
Joe
Pelle
Systems Analyst
Information Technology
Valassis / IT
19975 Victor Parkway Livonia, MI
48152
Tel 734.591.7324 Fax 734.632.6151
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.valassis.com/
This message may have included
proprietary or protected information. This
Were the users logged in while you were migrating the profile? I don't
think any tool can migrate the profile while they're logged in.
-Original Message-
From: Leeuwen van, JWJ (Joost) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 8:52 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE:
Joe,
As a follow-up, it does get just a little dicey if you are going to
manage mailboxes for different users in a different manner. In other words, maybe for front office
folks 90 day deletion policy, sales folks 180 day deletion policy, and all
others 45 day deletion policy. The
only
Since our AD upgrade, all of the Windows 98 machines have been having
problems with authentication. Seems that if a windows 98 machines hits
a Active Directory DC for authentication, it will lockout the machine.
If the Windows 98 machines gets a Windows NT 4.0 server it authenticates
with no
No they were not. The PC's were booted at night with a wake on lan tool.
(And were confirmed as being on)
-Original Message-
From: Rimmerman, Russ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: vrijdag 14 november 2003 16:05
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Migration Tool
Were
Bill, thanks!
Basically, I have a third party tool that
scrapes some data from emails and faxes that data out, etc. Once that process
has taken place I want those emails to be automatically deleted (after 2 days,
just in case J) Do you know if mailbox manager will do this?
Joe
Sorry for the off-topic, but does anyone know...
We have an SMS 2.0 box on NT4. We weren't doing much with it, just some RC,
and it never worked too well - maybe misconfigured, maybe 2.0 s anyway
the Win2K upgrade of the box is sitting there saying Please Wait... and
I'm wondering, if I just
Have you applied the directory services client to the PCs? If not, try that but call
Microsoft to get
the latest version. They have one available that supercedes the one that is on the
Win2K CD.
mc
-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday,
Joe,
I am just a good ole country boy and can not quite visualize what it is
that you are doing. Help me
here. Are these emails that you
scrape data from always to the same users? As I understand the process Mailbox Manager cleans designated
mailboxes based upon rules that the
Why don't they make that available to the public.?
-Original Message-
From: Creamer, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 9:30 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Window 98 Desktops are being locked out
Have you applied the directory services
Title: Message
We have used
Bindview, I am surprised to hear Bindview only wants to sell professional
services... Bindview has a tools division, and the Professional Services
Division. Chip Dibias is on reader on the site and works for
Bindview. He might be someone you should talk to maybe
Title: Message
We
also used Fastlane migration tools. We had several problems with the tool
though, it wasn't the "tools" fault. I believe it was browse list issues
that caused several of the problems. We have a pretty large network and
browse lists get dorked pretty easily around here. The
I had briefly looked into the rules option
in outlook and that cat didnt fit the users needs.
I was hoping Mailbox Manager would be a better answer
No offense to all the animal activists,
but I dont like cats anyway the 4 legged kinds anyway. . . .
Joe
Pelle
Systems Analyst
When did you do the profile update?
Todd
-Original Message-
From: Leeuwen van, JWJ (Joost) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 8:06 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Migration Tool
Do not remind me of Aelita and profile updates, it was a total
Good question - not sure. I had win9x lockouts that started after SP4 was applied to
my DCs. Although
they never admitted that's what caused the problem, the version of the ds client they
gave me to
install did fix the problem.
mc
-Original Message-
From: Chris Blair [mailto:[EMAIL
I am testing out the Aelita tool, I've seen it work in my lab with W2k pro
machines, fairly easily. Did you find out what went wrong? I'd like to
know before my migration becomes a crash and burn scenario.
Scott Morley
MCSE 2000/4.0, Exchange 2000/5.5, MCT, CCNA, CNE, CNI
Senior Systems
Samantha,
See the following articles - this may be related to the version of AD client
on the 98 workstations. If you aren't running the DS client then it may be
the lockout count. Try increasing the number to something like 10.
One Unsuccessful Logon Attempt May Trigger the Default Windows NT
what do you mean? did you look for it on MS' website and not find it? Did you google it?
http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/server/evaluation/news/bulletins/adextension.asp
Sincerely,Dèjì Akómöláfé, MCSE MCSA MCP+Iwww.akomolafe.comwww.iyaburo.comDo you now realize that Today is the
Title: Message
The
vendorsI've dealtwith(Quest/Aelita) both wanted Prof
Services.initially I felt the same way. Unfortunately, the products
aremade for people to do simple migrations. If your migration gets
complicated (i.e. simple=migration within a single maintence cycle) then you
need to
We spoke to the correct group, but why would we want to buy one tool for AD
and another tool for Exchange?
-Original Message-
From: Myrick, Todd (NIH/CIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 10:55 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Migration Tool
I
There are some know issues, and I believe there is a Q article on MS's site
that list all the password lockout issues with Windows 200x and older
clients.
Have you put the DS Client on the 98 boxes? Make sure you get the latest
version.
Todd
-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha
We are using the Quest Fastlane Migrator 6.0.2 and are very happy with it.
Only real drawback is the ability to re-migrate groups is missing. i.e. you
cannot do a big bang migration of groups and then when you wish to update
the groups (as membership may have changed) it will only re-create the
Title: Message
Our migration is very simple, and basic.
-Original Message-
From: Morley, Scott
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 11:06 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Migration
Tool
The vendorsI've
dealtwith(Quest/Aelita) both
Anyone have a known
workaround for the issue below?
I installed MMC Active Directory Users and Computers from
Windows Server 2003 (version 5.2.3790.0) on a new desktop. I can no longer
view groups I am a member of in groups that reside outside of my local domain
like I could with Windows
Good People Of The List,
Please consider answering the following question if you have the time and
inclination:
You've lost control of your Directory Services Restore Password, however,
not to worry, because everything is up and healthy. So you go to the DC and
log on, switch to
I believe that the Mailbox Manager is folder aware and will only clean
specific folders. I think I tested
this but maybe not. Anyway, it
would be a worthwhile effort. Say you
had a mailbox folder called 3rd Party Fax Information and you had a
server-side rule to deliver emails matching
You cannot re-migrate the group and update the group permissions??? thats not good. I
have used NetIQ to re-migrate the group and it automatically updated the group
membership.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Wilkinson, Stephen
Sent:
Cool! Can I borrow that tool you wrote? :)
-Original Message-
From: Wilkinson, Stephen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 10:31 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Migration Tool
We are using the Quest Fastlane Migrator 6.0.2 and are very happy
Joe,
Have a look at :
278024 XADM: Exchange 2000 Server SP1 Mailbox Manager
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=278024
Thanks
Rob
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Pelle, Joe
Sent: Fri 14/11/2003 13:34
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Mailbox
HmmI think the setpwd was a hack they threw together to address the issue
quickly. You'll now found this ability to reset the password in the ntdsutil command
on win2003. the setpwd doesn't exist in 2003 either.
I am not running SP4, but if you are, you might want to check ntdsutil to
If you have a Unix box I would recommend Nessus\
http://www.nessus.org/
By far the best port scanning vulnerability tool I have ever used
(that's also free!)
Shadow
-Original Message-
From: Myrick, Todd (NIH/CIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 10:41 AM
My presumption you must have a unix box was mistaken. You can also use
NeWT1.0 which is a native port available from Tenable Network Security
here: http://www.tenablesecurity.com/newt.html
What I should have said was, you need a unix box if you want to use it
for free!
Shadow
-Original
Yikes.
I forgot to mention, I'm talking W2K not W2K3.
Do you know if that will work in W2K?
Thanks for responding.
RH
_
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jef Kazimer
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 12:11 PM
To: [EMAIL
Title: Message
I have a challenge
for the group. I'm sure that someone else out there has seen this same
issue.
We are migrating
from anNT 4.0 domain and Sun DNS to Windows Server 2003 Active Directory
and DNS. The Sun admins gave us a text file of the DNSzones, and we
were able to
Thats not the one Microsoft sent
me.
mc
-Original Message-
From: deji Agba
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003
11:04 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Window 98
Desktops are being locked out
what do
you mean? did you look for
Title: Message
No,
I'm afraid DNSdump won't help ... it is designed to exclusively dump Windows
based DNS service configurations and zones.
If you
canmail me a copy of the problematic zone file, I'd be willing to take a
look and see what's causing the error and if it easily resolvable
Rocky,
That was my question too. :) I know it does not work with W2k SP3, but since I
don't have an SP4 box handy, I can't check if this option is now in NTDSUTIL.
Does anyone here who has an SP4 box handy mind checking out if you can reset the DSRM
password in NTDSUTIL, or if it's only
I'm currently using the DNSresource.vbs to dump zones to a text file, then I use
another VBS I wrote to parse the text file, and re-import the Reverse zones.
The syntax I am using is:
DnsResource /LIST PTR %2.%1.10.in-addr.arpa /S SERVER /O zone\%2-%1-10.dns
%1 and %2 are the B and C octets
Title: Message
I found another version on the web through Google. I wont post the
URL, because I am not sure if it is legal from the site to post the file. The
version they have for down load is
DSCLIENT
5.0.2920.5
09/30/2002
3,030K
The one on the Win2k CD
Title: Message
What they sent me was 5.00.2920.0005
3,102,480 bytes
mc
-Original Message-
From: Chris Blair
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003
1:22 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Window 98
Desktops are being locked out
I
Here is a VBScript. Simple but works.
1) Test in a test lab prior to use.
2) Not responsible for the results of the script. Use at your own risk.
* SCRIPT BEGIN *
Option Explicit
If WScript.Arguments.Count1 Then
Wscript.Echo Param : RemoteHostIP
WScript.Quit
End If
Title: Message
Wouldn't it be easier to create a test zone, export it and then compare
it to what you have from the SUN dump?
-Original Message-From: Jordan, Jason
[EPM/AUS] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday,
November 14, 2003 12:50 PMTo:
'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject:
I dont have a mailbox manager
settings (policy) tab when I open properties on the recipient policy in
question am I doing something wrong or do I have to install Service Pack
3 first? This DC does not appear to have any Exchange Service Packs installed
..
Joe
Pelle
Systems Analyst
Title: Message
Are you working with a 2003 server?
I think that setting is by default and you
have to explicitly assign the permissions. Everytime you go to properties itll
appear checked but grayed out a little
Joe
Pelle
Systems Analyst
Information Technology
Valassis / IT
Your only option to validate the PW later is to activate the SAM on the DC
to perform an authentication = you do so by booting into the DS Restore
Mode... and entering the PW for the admin account ;-)
I wouldn't know of a way how to do it while you are online - I am pretty
confident, that the
I just looked on a W2K SP4 box and I don't see it. I believe this is a
new feature as of W2K3.
Chip
-Original Message-
From: GRILLENMEIER,GUIDO (HP-Germany,ex1)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 4:15 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Directory
Might the w2k3 version of ntdsutil work on w2k, even if only for that
purpose?
-Original Message-
From: DiBias, Chip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 3:25 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Directory Services Restore Password
I just looked on a
pretty much all the well-known tools are by now capable of migrating
profiles while users are logged in. And I would really suggest to take the
time to test at least two of the 3rd party products in your environment,
because they've all grown up quite a bit and are generally rather helpful.
The
Hello Alan, Ican see that you won't like this-
it goes without saying, that you're talking about Universal Groups
from other domains in your forest - correct?
In 2000, when connected to a GC, ADMU would display your UG
memberships even when they're from a different domain (as a GC would
Joe, back
down to the bottom of this post.
Highlight Recipient Policy, right click, add new, name accordingly, then
properties, select mailbox manager and away you go. I do not have an E2K SysManager in front of me but that
should put you in the ballpark. If
not mistaken, this was invoked
try it - and tell us ;-)
-Original Message-
From: Rich Milburn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Freitag, 14. November 2003 22:45
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Directory Services Restore Password
Might the w2k3 version of ntdsutil work on w2k, even if only for that
Bill,
Thanks! After installing SP3 for Exchange
I was able to follow your directions to a tee thanks for your help with
this!
Joe
Pelle
Systems Analyst
Information Technology
Valassis / IT
19975 Victor Parkway Livonia, MI
48152
Tel 734.591.7324 Fax 734.632.6151
[EMAIL
No, they are not compatible.
Sincerely,Dèjì Akómöláfé, MCSE MCSA MCP+Iwww.akomolafe.comwww.iyaburo.comDo you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about Yesterday? -anon
From: GRILLENMEIER,GUIDO (HP-Germany,ex1)Sent: Fri 11/14/2003 2:06 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject:
Title: Message
My company chose to use Aelita but we ran into a major snag. The tool was only able to migrate about a hundred workstations at a time. With 35,000 workstations to migrate we were
not pleased. The problem came when
we tried to reboot the machines after the move to the new
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