RE: [ActiveDir] AD DR - replication lag site----Why?

2005-05-23 Thread Myrick, Todd (NIH/CC/DNA)
IS different for each company Cheers #JORGE# -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Sent: 5/22/2005 7:05 PM Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD DR - replication lag siteWhy? 1. I assume almost everyone has an insurance policy for their house if it burns

RE: [ActiveDir] AD DR - replication lag site----Why?

2005-05-23 Thread Grillenmeier, Guido
, Guido -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mike kline Sent: Montag, 23. Mai 2005 13:38 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] AD DR - replication lag siteWhy? haha, ok so you MVPs also have these special powers. Very

RE: [ActiveDir] AD DR - replication lag site----Why?

2005-05-23 Thread deji
@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD DR - replication lag siteWhy? oh, gee, I'm too late - but I had a great weekend ;-)) I'd have to say (and all the posts show themselves) that there is no single right or wrong answers to lag sites. It's one building block to mastering AD DR and may very

RE: [ActiveDir] AD DR - replication lag site----Why?

2005-05-22 Thread Jorge de Almeida Pinto
and rebuild the DC from scratch Cheers, #JORGE# -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Sent: 5/22/2005 1:15 AM Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD DR - replication lag siteWhy? Reread it Deji, I really am not agreeing with it. I noted that it might be something

RE: [ActiveDir] AD DR - replication lag site----Why?

2005-05-22 Thread Dan Holme
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jorge de Almeida Pinto Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2005 5:41 AM To: 'joe '; '[EMAIL PROTECTED] '; 'ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org ' Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD DR - replication lag siteWhy? Hi, In my opinion

RE: [ActiveDir] AD DR - replication lag site----Why?

2005-05-22 Thread joe
purpose? joe -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Holme Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2005 9:49 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD DR - replication lag siteWhy? I think Jorge summarized the issue quite well

RE: [ActiveDir] AD DR - replication lag site----Why?

2005-05-22 Thread Jorge de Almeida Pinto
#JORGE# -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Sent: 5/22/2005 7:05 PM Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD DR - replication lag siteWhy? 1. I assume almost everyone has an insurance policy for their house if it burns down. In the US, you can't get

RE: [ActiveDir] AD DR - replication lag site----Why?

2005-05-21 Thread deji
of joe Sent: Fri 5/20/2005 10:07 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD DR - replication lag siteWhy? I would tend to agree with what David is saying from what I have seen of lag sites as well. Not many people, relatively, doing it, those that are are likely to be doing

RE: [ActiveDir] AD DR - replication lag site----Why?

2005-05-21 Thread David Adner
I read Joe's comments as not creating a lag site per-se, but using virtual DC's which are periodically saved (I'll refrain from saying backed up since it's not a backup, as was recently discussed) in order to perform a Forest-wide recovery. I don't think he was referring to recovery of a few

RE: [ActiveDir] AD DR - replication lag site----Why?

2005-05-21 Thread Rick Kingslan
/willhack4food _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Kingslan Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 3:49 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD DR - replication lag siteWhy? Todd, With all due respect, I think there are more people doing

RE: [ActiveDir] AD DR - replication lag site----Why?

2005-05-21 Thread Myrick, Todd (NIH/CC/DNA)
Title: RE: [ActiveDir] AD DR - replication lag siteWhy? Thanks Rick, I didn't think it to strong. And took no offense. As most of you know, I am a buy guy. When I reviewed AD back when, I new that we were in trouble if we had any accidents with administration. We allow for delegated

RE: [ActiveDir] AD DR - replication lag site----Why?

2005-05-21 Thread Myrick, Todd (NIH/CC/DNA)
-Original Message- From: David Adner To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Sent: 5/21/2005 5:08 AM Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD DR - replication lag siteWhy? I read Joe's comments as not creating a lag site per-se, but using virtual DC's which are periodically saved (I'll refrain from saying

RE: [ActiveDir] AD DR - replication lag site----Why?

2005-05-21 Thread joe
, 2005 3:45 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD DR - replication lag siteWhy? Joe, you pretty much agreed with the lag site proposition towards the end of your piece. Whether you virtualize it, put it is a different physical location or just put it on a piece

RE: [ActiveDir] AD DR - replication lag site----Why?

2005-05-21 Thread joe
Correct. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Adner Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2005 5:08 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD DR - replication lag siteWhy? I read Joe's comments as not creating a lag site per

RE: [ActiveDir] AD DR - replication lag site----Why?

2005-05-20 Thread Jorge de Almeida Pinto
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Holme Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 16:16 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD DR - replication lag siteWhy? Two more notes on this issue: 1) THIRD PARTY AD RESTORE TOOLS. Sounds like it's clear, now, WHY lag sites are so popular. Yes

RE: [ActiveDir] AD DR - replication lag site----Why not?

2005-05-20 Thread Myrick, Todd (NIH/CC/DNA)
PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 5/19/2005 11:12 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD DR - replication lag siteWhy not? Todd - I personally don't have a problem with Recovery Manager. That being said - Last I checked, Microsoft still didn't allow it as a SUPPORTABLE solution

RE: [ActiveDir] AD DR - replication lag site----Why?

2005-05-20 Thread Myrick, Todd (NIH/CC/DNA)
:16 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD DR - replication lag siteWhy? Two more notes on this issue: 1) THIRD PARTY AD RESTORE TOOLS. Sounds like it's clear, now, WHY lag sites are so popular. Yes, there are third party products (particularly Quest Recovery

Re: [ActiveDir] AD DR - replication lag site----Why?

2005-05-20 Thread A P
PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 5/19/2005 10:16 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD DR - replication lag siteWhy? Two more notes on this issue: 1) THIRD PARTY AD RESTORE TOOLS. Sounds like it's clear, now, WHY lag sites are so popular. Yes, there are third party

RE: [ActiveDir] AD DR - replication lag site----Why not?

2005-05-20 Thread Rick Kingslan
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Myrick, Todd (NIH/CC/DNA) Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 11:51 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org; ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD DR - replication lag siteWhy not? Disagree Rick, MS changed the verbiage in the Q

RE: [ActiveDir] AD DR - replication lag site----Why?

2005-05-20 Thread Rick Kingslan
@mail.activedir.org; ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD DR - replication lag siteWhy? I disagree that Lag sites are popular, maybe with you and at AD conferences as a session. I tend to avoid those sessions. To all those considering this as a viable solution, why

RE: [ActiveDir] AD DR - replication lag site----Why?

2005-05-20 Thread Rick Kingslan
_ From: Dan Holme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 5/19/2005 10:16 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD DR - replication lag siteWhy? Two more notes on this issue: 1) THIRD PARTY AD RESTORE TOOLS. Sounds like it's clear, now, WHY lag sites are so

RE: [ActiveDir] AD DR - replication lag site----Why?

2005-05-20 Thread David Adner
@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD DR - replication lag siteWhy? Todd, With all due respect, I think there are more people doing this than you think. You aren’t using a Lag Site, so it’s ‘whacky’. Your opinion, so you’re entitled to it. PSS blessed our implementation, BTW. If you’d

RE: [ActiveDir] AD DR - replication lag site----Why not?

2005-05-20 Thread Brett Shirley
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Myrick, Todd (NIH/CC/DNA) Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 11:51 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org; ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD DR - replication lag siteWhy not? Disagree Rick, MS changed

RE: [ActiveDir] AD DR - replication lag site----Why?

2005-05-20 Thread joe
Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jorge de Almeida Pinto Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 8:43 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD DR - replication lag siteWhy? You are correct there are free tools to do a restore of objects

RE: [ActiveDir] AD DR - replication lag site----Why?

2005-05-20 Thread joe
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Adner Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 5:24 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD DR - replication lag siteWhy? Using my non-scientific personal observations, of the last 50 or so customers I've been to I believe only 3 had lag sites

RE: [ActiveDir] AD DR - replication lag site----Why?

2005-05-19 Thread Myrick, Todd (NIH/CC/DNA)
Is it cheaper and more efficient to go the replication lag site route than buy a proper backup and object level restore solution? I mean not to toot a vendor's horn, but Quest recovery manager turns the process of restoring objects into a 15 minute click click operation. I would hate to think

RE: [ActiveDir] AD DR - replication lag site----Why?

2005-05-19 Thread Dan Holme
this earlier, and it's a good note! Dan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Myrick, Todd (NIH/CC/DNA) Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 6:34 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD DR - replication lag siteWhy

RE: [ActiveDir] AD DR - replication lag site----Why not?

2005-05-19 Thread Rick Kingslan
or intensive to use. But, that's just me. -rtk -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Myrick, Todd (NIH/CC/DNA) Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 8:34 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD DR - replication lag siteWhy