] On Behalf Of Jorge de Almeida
Pinto
Sent: 21 April 2005 01:17 PM
To: 'Nicolas Blank '; '[EMAIL PROTECTED] ';
'ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org '
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Native Mode Switch
As you know, changing the mode or FL switch to an upper level introduces new
features. One of the consequences
/Default.asp?url=/resources/documentation/Windows/2000/server/reskit/en
-us/distrib/dsbj_brr_zldg.asp
Answer to your question?
Jorge
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Sent: 4/22/2005 9:23 AM
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Native Mode Switch
Perfect sense
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jorge de
Almeida Pinto
Sent: Freitag, 22. April 2005 13:16
To: 'Nicolas Blank '; '[EMAIL PROTECTED] ';
'ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org '
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Native Mode Switch
Good question! That would
?
/Guido
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jorge de
Almeida Pinto
Sent: Freitag, 22. April 2005 13:16
To: 'Nicolas Blank '; '[EMAIL PROTECTED] ';
'ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org '
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Native Mode Switch
Good question
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jorge de Almeida
Pinto
Sent: 20 April 2005 09:07 PM
To: 'Nicolas Blank '; Jorge de Almeida Pinto; 'ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Native Mode Switch
Manually re-writing the attribute will not work.
Also see:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/322692
the USGs and the group nesting.
Does this make sense?
#JORGE#
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Sent: 4/21/2005 12:03 PM
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Native Mode Switch
I hear you. I do know what the switch achieves in terms of
functionality, I
When you convert the domain to native mode the attribute nTMixedDomain on
the domain NC head of the replica where the change is made is changed from 1
to 0. This change replicates out to all other replicas.
There is no way you can change this attribute back without doing a disaster
recovery for
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Sent: 20 April 2005 08:17 PM
To: 'Nicolas Blank '; '[EMAIL PROTECTED] ';
'ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org '
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Native Mode Switch
When you convert the domain to native mode the attribute nTMixedDomain on
the domain NC head of the replica where the change
/2005 8:25 PM
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Native Mode Switch
Thanks for the answer. This is understood, however, what are the
implications of manually re-writing the nTMixedDomain value back to 1?
Also, what actions does a DC take once the value change is efected that
makes the cange non-reversible
Title: Native Mode
Yes,
you can have NT clients in native mode. (But no NT BDC's)
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Sudhir
KaushalSent: 27 January 2004 12:22To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [ActiveDir] Native
Mode
Hi All,
have lingering around in
your environment :)
Travis
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On Behalf Of Rocky HabeebSent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004
8:23 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE:
[ActiveDir] Native Mode
People,
So
please
AMTo:
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Mode
If
the clients have the latest DSClient installed they will simply look to a
local DC and authenticate against that. If they dont have
theDSClient they will have authentication issues. We found that
some PDCe downtime
strange.
joe
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rocky
HabeebSent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 8:23 AMTo:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Native
Mode
People,
So
please tell me ... if there is only one PDC Emulator, and it goes down, what
happens to NT4
Title: Native Mode
Native mode is only to do with domain
controllers you can have NT4.0 clients in a W2K Native Mode domain.
If all your DCs are now running W2K
make the switch.
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sudhir Kaushal
Sent: 27 January
Title: Message
You
are correct - Native mode only requires that you have no more NT4 domain
controllers.
To
all pre-Windows 2000 member machines, it just looks like an NT4 domain, but
--
Roger D. Seielstad -
MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Title: Native Mode
Thats right partner - -only in
reference to DCs you can have NT 4.0 boxes on the wire
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From:
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Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004
6:22 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:
Nebraska
From: Craig Cerino [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 9:27 AMTo:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Native
Mode
Thats right partner -
-only in reference to DCs you can have NT 4.0 boxes on the
wire
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On Behalf Of Kuhlman, Philip SSent: Tuesday, January 27,
2004 11:42 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject:
RE: [ActiveDir] Native Mode
Yep, all the downlevel (NT 4.0, etc) clients need is the
PDC emulator, native mode doesn't matter. Note that all of the downlevel
Return Receipt
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document
so and I hope I can contribute to
it.
PS2.: Have a nice Christmas and a happy
ending!
From: John Reijnders
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 06,
2003 08:01To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE:
[ActiveDir] native mode
Interesting discussion ... you're telling that "any other o
: GRILLENMEIER,GUIDO
(HP-Germany,ex1) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday,
November 07, 2003 12:00 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] native
mode
yeap - that's what I
meant with the point of no-return... Any roll-back procedure
for this scenario would likely only be useful fora very
1)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: woensdag 5 november 2003
22:04To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE:
[ActiveDir] native mode
John - it sounds like Mark is talking about a 2000 domain
- not that it makes too much of a difference, but 2000 doesn't know about
functional level
tag, 6. November
2003 08:01To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE:
[ActiveDir] native mode
Interesting discussion ... you're telling that "any other option would be
too risky". I've had this discussion with MS before and they (initially) said
the exact same thing (you're scaring me Guido ;-) ..
wrong before.
Sorry about the long rant.
Sincerely,Dèjì Akómöláfé, MCSE MCSA MCP+Iwww.akomolafe.comwww.iyaburo.comDo you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about Yesterday? -anon
From: GRILLENMEIER,GUIDO (HP-Germany,ex1)Sent: Wed 11/5/2003 11:56 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTE
As usual, I've been known to be wrong
before.
Sorry about the long rant.
Sincerely,Dèjì Akómöláfé,
MCSE MCSA
MCP+Iwww.akomolafe.comwww.iyaburo.comDo you now
realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about Yesterday?
-anon
From: GRILLENMEIER,GUIDO
(HP-Germany,ex1)Sent: Wed 11/5/20
: Joe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: woensdag 5 november 2003 1:13To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] native
mode
1.
Theoretical until you have conclusively proved in your own lab. Most likely
unsupported as a rollback mechanism by MS.
2.
Not necessarily true. There
ittwoch, 5. November
2003 09:37To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE:
[ActiveDir] native mode
The rollback possibilityis a interesting issue.
I've looked into this and came across the following quote from Microsoft:
"While the Windows Server 2003
functional level provides a number of features and
: GRILLENMEIER,GUIDO (HP-Germany,ex1)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003
4:04 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE:
[ActiveDir] native mode
John - it sounds like Mark is talking about a 2000 domain -
not that it makes too much of a difference, but 2000 doesn't know about
1.
Theoretical until you have conclusively proved in your own lab. Most likely
unsupported as a rollback mechanism by MS.
2. Not
necessarily true. There have been scattered reports of Samba and other SMB
emulation packages choking and also I have personally seen some weird stuff with
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Native
Mode in AD
Thats only if he decides to migrate to Exchange 2K
right?
-Original
Message-
From: Marc Zukerman
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Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003
10:43 AM
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Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Native
Mode in AD
in any of this, someone please
correct me.
Thanks,
Mike.
-Original
Message-
From: Salandra, Justin A.
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Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003
8:20 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Native
Mode in AD
No, it should be no matter what, Exchange does
Message-
From: Mike Newell
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Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003
1:58 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Native
Mode in AD
Hello Justin,
I think were talking about a few
different things here.
The initial question was Are there any issues with Active
Title: Message
Nope.
I've done it for close to 2 years now without issue.
Roger
--
Roger D. Seielstad -
MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis Inc.
-Original Message-From: Don Murawski
(Lenox) [mailto:[EMAIL
t: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 11:18
AM
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Native Mode in
AD
We were also on 5.5
for a while (before going to 2K) all the while in Native AD
mode
-Original
Message-From: Roger
Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 18,
Title: Message
Thats only if he decides to migrate to Exchange 2K right?
-Original
Message-
From: Marc Zukerman
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003
10:43 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Native
Mode in AD
It can
be done
PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re:
[ActiveDir] Native Mode in AD
It can be done, but there is an issue with the
public folders and the distribution lists that have been given access to them.
See the following Q article:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;297016
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 2:08
PM
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AD
Thats
only if he decides to migrate to Exchange 2K right?
-Original
Message-From: Marc
Zukerman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, March 18
Title: Message
Nope. Any of them will make it permanent.
;-)
Rick
Kingslan MCSE, MCSA, MCT
Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Murawski
(Lenox)Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 7:15 AMTo:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Switching to native
Title: Message
Do a
complete "point in time" backup of all your DC's.
Chuck
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On Behalf Of Don Murawski (Lenox)Sent: Friday, February 28,
2003 2:40 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject:
[ActiveDir] Native
Title: Message
That is completely untrue
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From: Salandra, Justin A.
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Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002
2:34 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Native
Mode ?
You cant go to native mode Exchange 2k unless you
] Native
Mode ?
That is completely untrue
-Original
Message-
From: Salandra, Justin A.
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002
2:34 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Native
Mode ?
You cant go to native mode Exchange 2k unless you
are in native mode
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Mode ?
Sorry it has been a while since my exchange MOC course for my MCSE, we havent
done our upgrade to e2k yet.
-Original
Message-
From: Craig Cerino
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002
4:15 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED
Title: Message
You should / must for Exchange 2K
distribution lists to work properly. IE Yes you must!
Chad Purviance
Prinicipal Consultant
Broadwing IT Consulting
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002
Title: Message
The
domain with E2K in it must be Native, yes. The forest need not
be.
-Original Message-From: Don Murawski
(Lenox) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday,
December 12, 2002 9:27 AMTo:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [ActiveDir] Native Mode
?
In the
Title: Message
mike
is wrong, neither need to be in native mode
-Original Message-From: Hutchins, Mike
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002
11:31 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE:
[ActiveDir] Native Mode ?
The
domain with E2K in it must
.
-Original Message-From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent:
Thursday, December 12, 2002 9:34 AMTo:
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?
mike
is wrong, neither need to be in native mode
-Original Message-From
:
[ActiveDir] Native Mode ?
The
domain with E2K in it must be Native, yes. The forest need not
be.
-Original Message-From: Don Murawski
(Lenox) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday,
December 12, 2002 9:27 AMTo:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [ActiveDir] Native
would like
it.
-Original Message-From: Purviance, Chad
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, December 12,
2002 11:30 AMTo: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject:
RE: [ActiveDir] Native Mode ?
You should / must for
Exchange 2K distribution lists to work properly. IE Yes you
Title: Message
Why?
-Original
Message-
From: Hutchins, Mike
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002
11:31 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Native
Mode ?
The domain with E2K in it
must be Native, yes. The forest need
g it's own.
-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002
1:47 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE:
[ActiveDir] Native Mode ?
Craig is right Chad is wrong
Except you can mail enable any security group basical
: [ActiveDir] Native
Mode ?
No you do not
Native Exchange 2K and
Native Win2K are two different things buddy.
Do your upgrade - go to NATIVE Exchange mode - - then
when youre finished bringing all your PDC up to AD go NATIVE on AD
-Original
Message-
From: Don Murawski (Lenox)
[mailto:[EMAIL
Title: Message
We
have a native mode Exchange Organization in a mixed mode
domain.
-Original Message-From: Salandra, Justin
A. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 12,
2002 2:34 PMTo: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject:
RE: [ActiveDir] Native Mode ?
You
It will
work but considerations are:
1) The DC server that holds
the FSMO role of PDCE will manage the trust.
2) The PDCE needs to have
NetBIOS enabled to service the Trust as it is an explicit trust and uses NTLM.
Cheers
David
-Original
Message-
From:
[EMAIL
Title: Message
Yep. It will be an external trust based on NTLM. External
trusts are not affected by a seitch to native mode.
Rick Kingslan - Microsoft Certified Trainer MCSE+I on
Windows NT 4.0 MCSE on Windows 2000 MVP [Windows NT/2000
Server]"Any sufficiently advanced technologyis
Phunny, I was just looking at for a userbut Win2K ras in 4.0
domain. In your case, check:
http://support.microsoft.com/search/preview.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q254311
Diane
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