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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jef
KazimerSent: Friday, April 28, 2006 11:01 AMTo:
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Root Place
Holder justification
Neil,
In some ways they may be even more harmful. Network outages have
their own f
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Gil,
I hear
that all the time, plus "Hey Rocky, where's Bullwinkle?" Hee hee hee.
Anyway, for people like me w
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gil KirkpatrickSent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 6:27 PMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Root Place Holder justification
Hey Rocky,
Watch me pull a rabbit out of my hat!
Sorry, just had to get that out of my system. Most peop
8 April 2006 14:51To:
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Root Place
Holder justification
Gil,
I hear
that all the time, plus "Hey Rocky, where's Bullwinkle?" Hee hee hee.
Anyway, for people like me who couldn't see Dean and joe and all the rest
of youse
Behalf Of Gil Kirkpatrick
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 6:27 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Root Place Holder justification
Hey Rocky,
Watch me pull a rabbit out of my hat!
Sorry, just had to get that out of my system. Most people on the list won't
have a
Behalf Of Gil Kirkpatrick
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 6:27 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Root Place Holder justification
Hey Rocky,
Watch me pull a rabbit out of my hat!
Sorry, just had to get that out of my system. Most people on the list won't
have a
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of joe
Sent: Thu 2006-04-27 01:23
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
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Who?
--
O'Reilly Active Directory Third Edition - http://www.joeware.net/win/ad3
This is quickly becoming one of those religious type argument items. Top
post -vs- bottom post. Universal Groups -vs- Domain Local Groups. Open -vs-
fixed naming standards. Open Source -vs- proprietary. Linux -vs- Windows.
Linux -vs- BSD. IIS -vs- Apache. MySQL -vs- SQL Server. PHP -vs Perl. Coke
older justification
Dean/Joseph
Anything to add?
Mark
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From: "Jef Kazimer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 16:15:09
To:
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Root Place Holder justification
RH,
It comes in the management issues. I currently deal w
006 12:03 PMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Root Place Holder justification
"Where's the harm?"
Don't tell me about economics or overhead or other things.
Tell me where the "harm" is.
Please.
RH
_
-Orig
I'm confused by your
question...
-gil
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HabeebSent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 12:03 PMTo:
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Holder justification
"Where's the
harm?"
Don't
Dean/Joseph
Anything to add?
Mark
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From: "Jef Kazimer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 16:15:09
To:
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Root Place Holder justification
RH,
It comes in the management issues. I currently deal with people creat
Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 2:49 PMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Root Place Holder justification
Jef,
We don’t have a root domain because somebody smarter than I made that
D] On Behalf Of Jef KazimerSent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 9:51 AMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Root Place Holder justification
Al,
If you had asked me in the year 2000, I could see issues that would drive a root domain to anchor multiple domains. I would caution again
Title: RE: [ActiveDir] Root Place Holder justification
I spoke to an MCS engineer on this very topic a while back and he confirmed that Microsoft has gotten away from recommending a dedicated forest root unless there's a compelling reason to have one. Sorry I can't be mor
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[ActiveDir] Root Place Holder justification
Jef,
We don’t have a root
domain because somebody smarter than I made that decision before I took
over. I was convinced at the time w
.
Maybe
they should re-evaluate their service offerings. :) I admit I was wrong
:)
Jef
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> Mark,
>
&g
.
Todd Myrick
From: Jef Kazimer
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12:30 PM
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Place Holder justification
Guido,
My
thoughts exactly. I always start my complaining with "I
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jef KazimerSent: Mittwoch, 26. April 2006 17:48To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Root Place Holder justification
I would tend to agree that a single domain is optimal with the current AD and infrastructure that is available. Other
Thanks Guido,
Mark
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From: "Grillenmeier, Guido" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 17:04:39
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Root Place Holder justification
There isn't much official documentation available on this topic and if
you search the
model.
/Guido
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KazimerSent: Mittwoch, 26. April 2006 17:48To:
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Holder justification
I would tend to agree that a single domain is optimal with the current AD and
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Sent: Mittwoch, 26. April 2006 16:03
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Mark,
I'm in the same place you are: single forest, single d
policy in the Domain Admins group.
Of course this can all be done using different ACL's and task groups and what not, but is there a a simpler way that I am missing?
Jef
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Root Place Holder justification> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 16:03:13 +0200> From
offerings. :) I admit I was wrong :)
Jef
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Root Place Holder justification> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 08:03:19 -0600> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org> > Mark,> > I'm in the same place you are: single forest, single d
ure impact is not understood.
If I had a magic wandI'd wish for a single domain. :)
Jef
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Root Place Holder justification> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 09:56:04 -0400> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org> > > Your subject
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> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kennedy, Jim
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> I view number 1 security issues more
, perhaps this is a real design flaw in AD,
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Sent: 26 April 2006 15:44
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I view number 1 security issues
wards.
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Sent: 26 April 2006 14:56
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Root Place Holder justification
Your subject is your answer. They need to justify a root domain. Is
there an actual reason for it?
There are only three reason
forgot to mention in my previous post..
always go for a single domain forest! unlessblabla...yadayada...(and this
should be a STRONG reason)
Met vriendelijke groeten / Kind regards,
Ing. Jorge de Almeida Pinto
Senior Infrastructure Consultant
MVP Windows Server - Directory Services
Logic
to have an empty forest root domain or not... (things I just thought of)
POSSIBLES FOR "TO HAVE":
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Large, complex and dynamic organizations
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Organization with independent departments and decentralized IT
departments (because of this one or more IT departments d
Mark,
I'm in the same place you are: single forest, single domain, but 30 DCs in a
global deployment with 45k users and 37k computers. Ran that way for 6 years.
Now we've sold off a business unit of a couple thousand users and they
outsourced to a big 3rd party service provider who insisted th
Your subject is your answer. They need to justify a root domain. Is
there an actual reason for it?
There are only three reasons to have one, imho(cut and pasted from a
google search)
1. Security requirements are different (password, lockout, and Kerberos
policies must be applied at the domai
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