Re: [AFMUG] bandwidth management appliance opinions

2018-11-12 Thread Adair Winter
We outgrew the box is why we switched. We tried to go with procera virtual which was procera on your own (to their spec) box but it was riddled with problems. A appliance the next size up with $70k and we were not ready to drop that kind of money on it. although I kinda wish we would have. Saisei

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti phone support? (big problem with all GPON OLTs)

2018-11-12 Thread Ken Hohhof
Ubiquiti is no different from most modern companies. Let the customers find the bugs, and provide their own support via forums and “the community”. It reminds me of a course I once took at IIT at a remote site via TV, every student had to present a paper which meant going downtown to campus

Re: [AFMUG] bandwidth management appliance opinions

2018-11-12 Thread Ryan Ray
The biggest thing we are looking for is being able to keep customer experience high even while they're using their plan. Our problem now is someone will be using 50Mb/s sustained on the down, and their pings go high and experience is worse than it should be. Trying to get buffer bloat down, being

Re: [AFMUG] bandwidth management appliance opinions

2018-11-12 Thread Ken Hohhof
Yes, if you’ve looked at all three, that would be fantastic. On list, or off list to khohhof “at” kwom.com. If you loved Procera, why did you switch? From: AF On Behalf Of Adair Winter Sent: Monday, November 12, 2018 8:28 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG]

Re: [AFMUG] bandwidth management appliance opinions

2018-11-12 Thread Ryan Ray
Also testing out Preseem. Signed up at wispa, just got the boxes in the network and can't wait to see what it can do. On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 6:29 PM Adair Winter wrote: > Honestly, we loved procera. We are currently with Saisei but not overly > happy. > About to do a preseem demo. > I can

Re: [AFMUG] bandwidth management appliance opinions

2018-11-12 Thread Adair Winter
Honestly, we loved procera. We are currently with Saisei but not overly happy. About to do a preseem demo. I can send more detail if you'd like later. On mobile now. Adair On Mon, Nov 12, 2018, 5:10 PM Ken Hohhof Once upon a time there was just Procera. Then there was Saisei and then >

Re: [AFMUG] OT - top supercomputer list 11/11/18

2018-11-12 Thread Tim Hardy
All of MCI’s engineering in the 70s was done via time-share on a CDC 6600 owned by Boeing.. Sent from my iPad > On Nov 12, 2018, at 8:03 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > > Or the CDC 6600 that ran my FORTRAN IV punch card decks in college in the > late 60’s, early 70’s? I think it was considered the

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti phone support? (big problem with all GPON OLTs)

2018-11-12 Thread Steve Jones
I wonder if UBNT was legit if their market share would be higher On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 5:36 PM Cameron Crum wrote: > Have you received a call back yet? If not I can see if I can push it up > the support chain and get either James or Jordan to give you a call. > > Cameron > > On Mon, Nov 12,

Re: [AFMUG] OT - top supercomputer list 11/11/18

2018-11-12 Thread Ken Hohhof
Or the CDC 6600 that ran my FORTRAN IV punch card decks in college in the late 60’s, early 70’s? I think it was considered the first supercomputer. From: AF On Behalf Of can...@believewireless.net Sent: Monday, November 12, 2018 6:36 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re:

Re: [AFMUG] OT - top supercomputer list 11/11/18

2018-11-12 Thread can...@believewireless.net
Where does the Cray YMP I played with in 1992 fall? On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 6:29 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > > https://www.top500.org/news/china-extends-supercomputer-share-on-top500-list-us-dominates-in-total-performance/ > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com >

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti phone support? (big problem with all GPON OLTs)

2018-11-12 Thread Cameron Crum
Have you received a call back yet? If not I can see if I can push it up the support chain and get either James or Jordan to give you a call. Cameron On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 3:55 PM Seth Mattinen wrote: > On 11/12/18 1:33 PM, Colin Stanners wrote: > > Is there a phone number for Ubiquiti

[AFMUG] OT - top supercomputer list 11/11/18

2018-11-12 Thread Ken Hohhof
https://www.top500.org/news/china-extends-supercomputer-share-on-top500-list -us-dominates-in-total-performance/ -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti phone support? (big problem with all GPON OLTs)

2018-11-12 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 11/12/18 1:33 PM, Colin Stanners wrote: Is there a phone number for Ubiquiti support? Can't find on website. We're about to go live on a GPON fiber deployment where we were looking to use their OLTs, but every OLT that we have tried (3 brand new units) has the same problem in production

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti phone support? (big problem with all GPON OLTs)

2018-11-12 Thread Colin Stanners
Interface suddenly shows as down in the OLT andat the other side. At the other end, have a Mikrotik router or Mikrotik switch - tried both during troubleshooting. First was a link of 1gbit FiberStore singlemode SFPs, then 10Gbit DAC cable, tried it at both 1Gbit and 10Gbit speeds. With all those

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti phone support? (big problem with all GPON OLTs)

2018-11-12 Thread Steve Jones
you got jokes On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 3:34 PM Colin Stanners wrote: > Is there a phone number for Ubiquiti support? Can't find on website. We're > about to go live on a GPON fiber deployment where we were looking to use > their OLTs, but every OLT that we have tried (3 brand new units) has the

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti phone support? (big problem with all GPON OLTs)

2018-11-12 Thread Adair Winter
I haven't seen this either on either of ours. What SFP and what's it plugged in to on the other side? On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 3:38 PM Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] wrote: > I haven't seen this on my deployments. > > Tag @ubnt-james in a post on the gpon forum. He can offer assistance. > > > > Sent

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti phone support? (big problem with all GPON OLTs)

2018-11-12 Thread Trey Scarborough
Does the actual SFP go off or just stop passing traffic On 11/12/2018 3:33 PM, Colin Stanners wrote: Is there a phone number for Ubiquiti support? Can't find on website. We're about to go live on a GPON fiber deployment where we were looking to use their OLTs, but every OLT that we have tried

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti phone support? (big problem with all GPON OLTs)

2018-11-12 Thread Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]
I haven't seen this on my deployments. Tag @ubnt-james in a post on the gpon forum. He can offer assistance. Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S8 Active, an AT 4G LTE smartphone Original message From: Colin Stanners Date: 11/12/18 3:34 PM (GMT-06:00) To: AnimalFarm Microwave

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti phone support? (big problem with all GPON OLTs)

2018-11-12 Thread Adam Moffett
One of the selling points for Ubiquiti investors is low tech support costs due to support being primarily through the forum and therefore aided by the community. I don't think there's a public number for support. I think the forum is where you're supposed to go. On 11/12/2018 4:33 PM,

[AFMUG] Ubiquiti phone support? (big problem with all GPON OLTs)

2018-11-12 Thread Colin Stanners
Is there a phone number for Ubiquiti support? Can't find on website. We're about to go live on a GPON fiber deployment where we were looking to use their OLTs, but every OLT that we have tried (3 brand new units) has the same problem in production that wasn't seen in testing - the data port

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: PTP 450 365 with Ethernet Issues

2018-11-12 Thread Matt Mangriotis via AF
We DO offer PTP 450i in 3.65… we even have cnMedusa in 3.65 now! Matt From: AF On Behalf Of Sam Lambie Sent: Monday, November 12, 2018 12:07 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: PTP 450 365 with Ethernet Issues Thanks Matt, I would switch to 450i

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: PTP 450 365 with Ethernet Issues

2018-11-12 Thread Sam Lambie
Thanks Matt, I would switch to 450i hardware if you offered 3.65 ghz band Hence why I am going to licensed gear. On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 10:41 AM Matt Mangriotis via AF wrote: > Yes, this is a CPU limitation with 450 hardware. The 450i radio has nearly > 3x the PPS performance, and will

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: PTP 450 365 with Ethernet Issues

2018-11-12 Thread Matt Mangriotis via AF
Yes, this is a CPU limitation with 450 hardware. The 450i radio has nearly 3x the PPS performance, and will eliminate this bottleneck. Sorry, I didn’t see this thread until now (traveling). Matt From: AF On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Monday, November 12, 2018 11:28 AM To: 'AnimalFarm

Re: [AFMUG] mac telnet from RouterOS to an ePMP, has anyone ever gotten this working?

2018-11-12 Thread Mathew Howard
Weird... all of the APs I've tried have worked from both sides. You do have to use the wireless MAC (whether you're connected from the ethernet or the wireless side), but other than that, they just connected like you would expect. On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 10:42 AM Josh Luthman wrote: > AP.

Re: [AFMUG] PTP 450 365 with Ethernet Issues

2018-11-12 Thread Sam Lambie
Yeah, I am at the latest greatest and no change to the error rates. No biggie, it's time to upgrade anyhow. On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 10:15 AM Ken Hohhof wrote: > Yeah, 60 Mbps sounds about right to max out a 450. 450i probably a lot > better. But Cambium has a history of fessing up that CPU

Re: [AFMUG] PTP 450 365 with Ethernet Issues

2018-11-12 Thread Bill Prince
Are you tracking % frame utilization? If the airtime is full, there is nowhere for the traffic to go. bp On 11/12/2018 8:54 AM, Sam Lambie wrote: The ethernet Interface is only capable of 100mbps. The Over the air is capable of

Re: [AFMUG] OT cannot bear to toss

2018-11-12 Thread Chuck McCown
I was a total virtuoso with the 705. I had products that used every circuit in that chip. Bytecraft compiler. I loved that chip. Many 10s or thousands of those OTP chips were burned. Needham made a fairly universal programmer that I used to burn those. From: Dave Sent: Monday,

Re: [AFMUG] OT cannot bear to toss

2018-11-12 Thread Dave
I have tons dated back to late 80s for motorolas processors and z80. I finally got rid of some but still have my faves because I still work with these older processors for fun. I have an old EEtools programmer that has to have a express card to interface with.     I have since upgraded to usb

Re: [AFMUG] mac telnet from RouterOS to an ePMP, has anyone ever gotten this working?

2018-11-12 Thread Josh Luthman
AP. Bridge mode. Looks like on by default to me, too. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 10:52 AM, Mathew Howard wrote: > SM or AP? Is it in router mode or bridge mode? > I've only tried it on radios that

Re: [AFMUG] Grandpad

2018-11-12 Thread Adam Moffett
Yeah that's a great point.  There's nothing wrong with making a device simpler, easier, and more accessible.  In this case the name of the product both limits their potential market and possibly /offends/ the potential market.  Rather than be so ham-fisted, they could have called it the "Easy

Re: [AFMUG] mac telnet from RouterOS to an ePMP, has anyone ever gotten this working?

2018-11-12 Thread Mathew Howard
SM or AP? Is it in router mode or bridge mode? I've only tried it on radios that are in bridge mode, and I had to use the wireless MAC, so it wouldn't surprise me if it doesn't work in router or NAT mode. You can disable mac-telnet, but it seems to be turned on on all of ours, and I never enabled

Re: [AFMUG] mac telnet from RouterOS to an ePMP, has anyone ever gotten this working?

2018-11-12 Thread Mathew Howard
Yeah, one nice thing about ePMPs, is that you can always access them (from the ethernet port) on 169.254.1.1. On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 9:18 AM Josh Luthman wrote: > I have always done SSH from RouterOS. If you made a gateway mistake you > don't need to do anything else, but if you did a bad IP

Re: [AFMUG] Grandpad

2018-11-12 Thread Bill Prince
LOL! The idea is something that a lot of people have been working on for quite a while now. I think the only thing wrong is the name; the blatant assumption that confines them to a particular age demographic. bp On 11/12/2018 7:40 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: Maybe I should buy the kids

Re: [AFMUG] Grandpad

2018-11-12 Thread Adam Moffett
Maybe I should buy the kids Grandpads for Christmas. On 11/12/2018 10:26 AM, Bill Prince wrote: I know one person who got & used a WebTV. He was about 25 at the time. bp On 11/11/2018 6:14 PM, Colin Stanners wrote: A long time ago, my relatives bought a WebTV box and internet subscription

Re: [AFMUG] PTP 450 365 with Ethernet Issues

2018-11-12 Thread Sam Lambie
Yeah, during lighter loads of daytime traffic, the link ping perfectly and the cpu load is less than 70%. At night, frame utilization is less than 70% but Ethernet discards climb steadily, up to 10% packet loss. I assume that the processor is lame and can't keep up with the RF side of things. Off

Re: [AFMUG] Grandpad

2018-11-12 Thread Bill Prince
I know one person who got & used a WebTV. He was about 25 at the time. bp On 11/11/2018 6:14 PM, Colin Stanners wrote: A long time ago, my relatives bought a WebTV box and internet subscription for my grandma to try to get her online... Altogether must've cost close to $1K. I'm not sure

Re: [AFMUG] mac telnet from RouterOS to an ePMP, has anyone ever gotten this working?

2018-11-12 Thread Josh Luthman
I have always done SSH from RouterOS. If you made a gateway mistake you don't need to do anything else, but if you did a bad IP you can just use static ARP and 169.254.1.1 (or add a similar bad IP). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373

Re: [AFMUG] YouTube Channel

2018-11-12 Thread Ryan Hill
Absolutely! Ryan Hill Operations Manager Amplex Internet (419)837-5015 Ext 1047 www.amplex.net > On Nov 12, 2018, at 9:44 AM, Ben Royer wrote: > > Awesome Ryan, > > I subscribed. I’m

Re: [AFMUG] YouTube Channel

2018-11-12 Thread Ben Royer
Awesome Ryan, I subscribed. I’m using Pinnacle Studio 22 Ultimate, there’s a lot to it, but I’m picking it up pretty quick. I may even ‘borrow’ a few ideas there for our customers! Thank you, Ben Royer, Operations Manager Royell Communications, Inc. 217-965-3699 www.royell.net From: Ryan

Re: [AFMUG] Grandpad

2018-11-12 Thread Ken Hohhof
I think we had one WebTV user get a PC and connect to the Internet through us when WebTV shut down. I also remember at least one customer with a “computer for seniors”, the closest I can find with a Google search is www.mywowcomputer.com maybe that’s it.

Re: [AFMUG] mac telnet from RouterOS to an ePMP, has anyone ever gotten this working?

2018-11-12 Thread Joe Novak
Same here. It for sure worked one or two versions back.. I mucked a gateway and had to fix it via mac telnet. On Sun, Nov 11, 2018 at 8:46 PM Josh Luthman wrote: > Well I can't mac-telnet to a 3.5.1 on the eth port...wonder why... > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343

Re: [AFMUG] YouTube Channel

2018-11-12 Thread Ryan Hill
Those are great Ben. We're doing something similar but so far we're seeing and hearing some great feedback. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4iZVdN71bfYHrP0Lg97ATA Ryan Hill Operations Manager Amplex Internet (419)837-5015 Ext 1047