Re: [AFMUG] AT microcells

2020-04-03 Thread Tim Reichhart
Looks like he is going need outside AP   -Original Message- From: "Ken Hohhof" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Date: 04/03/20 10:45 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AT microcells Except he walks outside his house and his call drops, because his WiFi doesn’t cover outside but the

Re: [AFMUG] AT microcells

2020-04-03 Thread Bill Prince
Bummer dude. Our WiFi has always worked better than cell service. I never got a femtocell because I knew WiFi calling would happen soon enough. bp On 4/3/2020 7:44 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Except he walks

Re: [AFMUG] AT microcells

2020-04-03 Thread Ken Hohhof
Except he walks outside his house and his call drops, because his WiFi doesn't cover outside but the microcell did. From: AF On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Friday, April 3, 2020 9:22 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AT microcells I was expecting this when WiFi calling started

Re: [AFMUG] AT microcells

2020-04-03 Thread Bill Prince
I was expecting this when WiFi calling started becoming real. Your Linksy router is your new femtocell. I say good riddance. bp On 4/3/2020 3:56 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: I had a customer tell me AT no longer

Re: [AFMUG] AT microcells

2020-04-03 Thread Tim Reichhart
that is true I have an microcell 3g one and it does not work anymore   -Original Message- From: "Forrest Christian (List Account)" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Date: 04/03/20 10:14 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AT microcells On their website: "AT has discontinued sales of new AT

Re: [AFMUG] AT microcells

2020-04-03 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
On their website: "AT has discontinued sales of new AT MicroCells. You can use Wi-Fi Calling to talk and text over an active Wi-Fi connection where it’s hard for a strong cellular signal to reach." ( From https://www.att.com/att/microcell/ ) I recently switched from postpaid to prepaid on our

Re: [AFMUG] AF Digest, Vol 23, Issue 63

2020-04-03 Thread Ryan McAfee
customer tell me AT no longer supports microcells. Can anyone > confirm or refute? I find that a little surprising. He says the make you > use WiFi calling instead. > > -- next part -- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://af.afmug

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Feeling a little sad...

2020-04-03 Thread Mike Meluskey
Had that argument today….my tower manager wants to buy 5 more 450i AP’s. I’m like, that horse has seen better days…..let’s buy 5 more 450m’s and use them to upgrade 5 heavily (40+ customers) loaded 450i’s, and enjoy the all the goodness that comes from the marriage of Orthogon and Canopy. And

[AFMUG] AT microcells

2020-04-03 Thread Ken Hohhof
I had a customer tell me AT no longer supports microcells. Can anyone confirm or refute? I find that a little surprising. He says the make you use WiFi calling instead. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Feeling a little sad...

2020-04-03 Thread Mark Radabaugh
The run like champs. What finally did them in was the desire to switch to 5ms frame timing and the need for the spectrum they were occupying. Mark > On Apr 3, 2020, at 5:39 PM, TJ Trout wrote: > > We still have some 430s and lmg 430s running like a well oiled machine > > On Fri, Apr 3,

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Feeling a little sad...

2020-04-03 Thread Bill Prince
There was an old saying in the tech industry. Maybe still in use. "Eat your children." bp On 4/3/2020 3:26 PM, Daniel White wrote: Matt clearly doesn't love his children once the next one is born.  He probably took an

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Feeling a little sad...

2020-04-03 Thread Daniel White
Matt clearly doesn't love his children once the next one is born.  He probably took an FSK radio behind Cambium HQ and shot it during the 430 days... Mark don't de-install it... Matt is gonna off her too! If you are a 450i AP... you have been warned... photograph Daniel White Co-Founder &

Re: [AFMUG] Out of band access best practices

2020-04-03 Thread fiberrun
FYI, there are lots of other IoT SIM providers. For example 1NCE is 10 euros for 10 years with 500 MB of data. Top ups are 10 euros per 500 MB. Global coverage. Disclaimer: haven't used it.   There are others at a buck or two per month for larger data amounts. Apparently T-Mobile has an

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Feeling a little sad...

2020-04-03 Thread TJ Trout
We still have some 430s and lmg 430s running like a well oiled machine On Fri, Apr 3, 2020, 1:42 PM Matt Mangriotis via AF wrote: > **CLAP** **CLAP** **CLAP** > > > > I am happy for you guys!! > > > > Matt > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of * Mark Radabaugh > *Sent:* Friday, April 3, 2020 3:18

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Speed Tests

2020-04-03 Thread Steven Kenney
No QOS in the AP's or SM's for ePMP. Its like we get a random bad batch of them that don't like speed tests. -- Steven Kenney Network Operations Manager WaveDirect Telecommunications http://www.wavedirect.net (519)737-WAVE (9283) From: "Nate Burke" To: "af" Sent: Thursday, April 2,

Re: [AFMUG] 40Gbps+ Mikrotiks

2020-04-03 Thread Steven Kenney
There it is thanks. Looks sweeet. Don't see the routers though those links in the forum didn't work. Maybe its supposed to be super secret still :) Thanks for the ray of hope though. -- Steven Kenney Network Operations Manager WaveDirect Telecommunications http://www.wavedirect.net

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Up Tower

2020-04-03 Thread SmarterBroadband
That is a thing of beauty…. Let us know the price when you find out…. From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Friday, April 3, 2020 10:48 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Up Tower Anyone look at this Hybrid

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Feeling a little sad...

2020-04-03 Thread Matt Mangriotis via AF
*CLAP* *CLAP* *CLAP* I am happy for you guys!! Matt From: AF On Behalf Of Mark Radabaugh Sent: Friday, April 3, 2020 3:18 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: [ External ] [AFMUG] Feeling a little sad... From Network Operations: "We are down to just one 430 AP on the entire

Re: [AFMUG] Feeling a little sad...

2020-04-03 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Leave it up for historical value Mark! Don't take the last one down, I still have some tranzeo's in the network! On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 4:18 PM Mark Radabaugh wrote: > From Network Operations: > > "We are down to just one 430 AP on the entire network. That AP is only > feeding one customer and

[AFMUG] Out of band access best practices

2020-04-03 Thread TJ Trout
All, I bought some opengear acm's that I am working on deploying. I have options for oob IP and or console access. Wondering what you guys do / best practices. I think I will use hologram.io cellular because I can access the acm by tunneling through their nat. Alternative might be a $10 DSL

[AFMUG] Feeling a little sad...

2020-04-03 Thread Mark Radabaugh
From Network Operations: "We are down to just one 430 AP on the entire network. That AP is only feeding one customer and is planned to be removed in the next few weeks. Thank you everyone for your help in pushing this along to make our customer's internet experience the best it can be.”

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Up Tower

2020-04-03 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Dave, You power all your DC sites down during lightning storms? On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 3:40 PM Josh Baird wrote: > What are you using for DC surge suppression at the top and bottom? > > On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 3:23 PM dave via AF wrote: > >> >> We dont do batteries for our larger sites that

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Up Tower

2020-04-03 Thread Josh Baird
What are you using for DC surge suppression at the top and bottom? On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 3:23 PM dave via AF wrote: > > We dont do batteries for our larger sites that have 4 or more of these we > have mostly 3Ghz medusas. > Its Genny or nothing. Until I can get a perfected lightning detector

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Up Tower

2020-04-03 Thread Ken Hohhof
OK, I don’t think everyone followed that you were talking about DC power for up to 6 450m sectors. Especially with the talk about hybrid cable. From: AF On Behalf Of dave via AF Sent: Friday, April 3, 2020 2:22 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Cc: dave Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Up Tower We

Re: [AFMUG] OT Covid Neighbor

2020-04-03 Thread Robert Andrews
On and off would be ok, I can sleep through that. The flood lights illuminating the faintest shadow on the roof over my bed. Yeah, gonna stop that sometime... On 04/03/2020 11:57 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: You must be my neighbor. My motion sensing flood lights go on almost every night.

Re: [AFMUG] OT Covid Neighbor

2020-04-03 Thread Robert Andrews
Don't do that... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon-Erik_Hexum On 04/03/2020 11:56 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: A friend of mine was horsing around with his brother. He took a 38 automatic and pulled the bullet off one of the cartridges and mashed a soft bar of soap into it to keep the powder

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Up Tower

2020-04-03 Thread dave via AF
We dont do batteries for our larger sites that have 4 or more of these we have mostly 3Ghz medusas. Its Genny or nothing. Until I can get a perfected lightning detector for an all battery backup site I just dont do it anymore. Its too risky for continuous run during a lightning storm. Too many

Re: [AFMUG] OT Covid Neighbor

2020-04-03 Thread chuck
You must be my neighbor. My motion sensing flood lights go on almost every night. Deer, cats, something is turning them on. -Original Message- From: Robert Andrews Sent: Friday, April 3, 2020 12:21 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Covid Neighbor That's the hard part

Re: [AFMUG] OT Covid Neighbor

2020-04-03 Thread chuck
A friend of mine was horsing around with his brother. He took a 38 automatic and pulled the bullet off one of the cartridges and mashed a soft bar of soap into it to keep the powder in. We used to call these soap loads. Others did it with wax. He shot his brother at a range of about 10 feet

Re: [AFMUG] OT Covid Neighbor

2020-04-03 Thread Bill Prince
Some .177 caliber pellet rifles can do in the neighborhood of 1400 fps. There's got to be a sonic pop with that. The small pellets lose velocity pretty rapidly though. Problem is that they don't have enough punch to do away with varmints. At the time we got ours, it was about the highest

Re: [AFMUG] OT Covid Neighbor

2020-04-03 Thread Robert Andrews
NOW I know why mine is so noisy, hadn't even thought of that! On 04/03/2020 09:13 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: That's a pneumatic rifle? 1100fps is about the speed of sound. That's got to be about at the limit for an air gun. On 4/3/2020 12:05 PM, Bill Prince wrote: My pellet gun is close to

Re: [AFMUG] OT Covid Neighbor

2020-04-03 Thread Robert Andrews
That's the hard part about mine, it's 1300fps and noisy as a 22. So I can't use it in the neighborhood. Even though I would love to put out the neighbor's super bright backyard light he leaves on overnight... On 04/03/2020 09:05 AM, Bill Prince wrote: My pellet gun is close to that. Shoots

Re: [AFMUG] needs landline once per day

2020-04-03 Thread Steve Jones
probably a pedo with some weird rule and cellular use restriction On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 8:22 AM Daniel White wrote: > Well it isn't this: > https://www.businessinsider.com/poland-app-coronavirus-patients-mandaotory-selfie-2020-3 > > It sounds like whatever the reason is is based on a policy

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Up Tower

2020-04-03 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Anyone look at this Hybrid fiber/DC from Eupen? https://www.eupen.us/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=FIBER_Code=EUPEN I am afraid to call and ask them the price. On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 11:54 AM Carl Peterson wrote: > m...@savvitechnologies.com - they are actually built in China but we just > pay

Re: [AFMUG] OT Covid Neighbor

2020-04-03 Thread Steve Jones
i have a bb in my abdomen from funtimes, shows up periodically in xrays. We didnt tell nobody nuthin about why i was bleeding from my belly On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 11:27 AM Adam Moffett wrote: > At age 13 I shot a kid in the leg with a .177 pneumatic which was fully > pumped up. He went to the

Re: [AFMUG] OT Covid Neighbor

2020-04-03 Thread Adam Moffett
At age 13 I shot a kid in the leg with a .177 pneumatic which was fully pumped up.  He went to the hospital to have the BB removed. .turns out any gunshot wound has to be reported to the police.  That turned into a not fun day. On the other hand that guy learned not to try and shove snow

Re: [AFMUG] OT Covid Neighbor

2020-04-03 Thread chuck
Just a regular old spring powered lever action BB gun hurts like a MF if you catch a BB in your butt. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Friday, April 3, 2020 10:13 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Covid Neighbor That's a pneumatic rifle? 1100fps is about the speed of sound. That's

Re: [AFMUG] OT Covid Neighbor

2020-04-03 Thread Adam Moffett
That's a pneumatic rifle?  1100fps is about the speed of sound. That's got to be about at the limit for an air gun. On 4/3/2020 12:05 PM, Bill Prince wrote: My pellet gun is close to that. Shoots a 22 gauge pellet at 1100 fps. Almost as good as a regular 22, but way more quiet. bp On

Re: [AFMUG] OT Covid Neighbor

2020-04-03 Thread Bill Prince
My pellet gun is close to that. Shoots a 22 gauge pellet at 1100 fps. Almost as good as a regular 22, but way more quiet. bp On 4/3/2020 8:43 AM, Robert wrote: The BB gun I have would go through Levi's at 40 yards.. On

Re: [AFMUG] OT Covid Neighbor

2020-04-03 Thread chuck
And you will never forget it. From: Robert Sent: Friday, April 3, 2020 9:43 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Covid Neighbor The BB gun I have would go through Levi's at 40 yards.. On 4/3/20 8:16 AM, Mark Radabaugh wrote: Shotgun and rock salt is more memorable. Mark

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Up Tower

2020-04-03 Thread Carl Peterson
m...@savvitechnologies.com - they are actually built in China but we just pay shipping from his WH in SC. Takes time though so we order in quantity. Our Purchase description looks like this. "Genuine Corning or OFS EZBEND 4.8 ruggedized black jumper SCAPC to SCUPC 100ft" - Change the description

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Up Tower

2020-04-03 Thread Carl Peterson
I'd recommend using SCA cassettes and SCA-SCU OD patch cables. (or SCU cassettes and SCU-SCU cables) I've got a source in SC that builds the patch cables out of 4.8MM OD cable - You can also source them from Corning etc. Much easier to get an outdoor simplex patch cable in SC rather than LC.

Re: [AFMUG] OT Covid Neighbor

2020-04-03 Thread Robert
The BB gun I have would go through Levi's at 40 yards.. On 4/3/20 8:16 AM, Mark Radabaugh wrote: Shotgun and rock salt is more memorable. Mark On Apr 3, 2020, at 11:08 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Get a bb gun and pop them in the butt if you see them outside. *From:*

Re: [AFMUG] OT Covid Neighbor

2020-04-03 Thread Ken Hohhof
You should be making friends with the stray dogs and training them to go to the store for you and buy toilet paper. From: AF On Behalf Of justsumname . Sent: Friday, April 3, 2020 10:23 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Covid Neighbor I use shotgun and

Re: [AFMUG] OT Covid Neighbor

2020-04-03 Thread Steve Jones
https://www.foxnews.com/us/detroit-bus-driver-dies-of-coronavirus-2-weeks-after-saying-in-video-passenger-openly-coughed-on-his-bus On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 10:23 AM justsumname . wrote: > I use shotgun and airsoft pellets on the stray dogs > > > On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 11:17 AM Mark

Re: [AFMUG] OT Covid Neighbor

2020-04-03 Thread justsumname .
I use shotgun and airsoft pellets on the stray dogs On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 11:17 AM Mark Radabaugh wrote: > Shotgun and rock salt is more memorable. > > Mark > > On Apr 3, 2020, at 11:08 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: > > Get a bb gun and pop them in the butt if you see them outside. > >

Re: [AFMUG] OT Covid Neighbor

2020-04-03 Thread Mark Radabaugh
Shotgun and rock salt is more memorable. Mark > On Apr 3, 2020, at 11:08 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: > > Get a bb gun and pop them in the butt if you see them outside. > > From: justsumname . <> > Sent: Friday, April 3, 2020 7:44 AM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <> > Subject: Re:

Re: [AFMUG] OT Covid Neighbor

2020-04-03 Thread chuck
Get a bb gun and pop them in the butt if you see them outside. From: justsumname . Sent: Friday, April 3, 2020 7:44 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Covid Neighbor What's going to keep this thing happening is the people who disregard guidance of how to prevent

Re: [AFMUG] OT Covid Neighbor

2020-04-03 Thread Steve Jones
Get off this list before you infect us all. When the epidemiologists do their tracing on this for the history books, they're going to mark americans as the dumbest people on the planet. We were positioned for a slow burn, where healthy people catch it, get over it and build community immunity,

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Up Tower

2020-04-03 Thread Josh Baird
Got it. Yeah, I meant to link to a SM cassette (not MM). Thanks, Mark & Jared. On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 9:20 AM Mark Radabaugh wrote: > In addition to Jared’s comment (don’t mix SM and MM fiber), make sure you > have the correct connectors at each end. Also make sure when ordering > BiDi

Re: [AFMUG] OT Covid Neighbor

2020-04-03 Thread justsumname .
What's going to keep this thing happening is the people who disregard guidance of how to prevent spreading. We're not just dealing with a virus. We're dealing with skeptical and disrespectful and disrespectable people. -- On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 4:52 PM wrote: > Ima gonna put up a fence

Re: [AFMUG] needs landline once per day

2020-04-03 Thread Daniel White
Well it isn't this:  https://www.businessinsider.com/poland-app-coronavirus-patients-mandaotory-selfie-2020-3 It sounds like whatever the reason is is based on a policy from 20+ years ago, unless they are looking at switch traffic logs or something. Even then, you could correlate the IP address

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Up Tower

2020-04-03 Thread Mark Radabaugh
In addition to Jared’s comment (don’t mix SM and MM fiber), make sure you have the correct connectors at each end. Also make sure when ordering BiDi optics that you pair them correctly. Tx on one end needs to match Rx on the other. You will need two different part numbers for the SFP’s.

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Up Tower

2020-04-03 Thread fiberrun
I was going to write it'll work just fine, Layer 1 don't care, but you linked to a *multimode* MTP casette. This will either fail outright or have spectacular losses. Swap the MTP casette for a single mode one and you'll be fine.   Jared     Sent: Friday, April 03, 2020 From: "Josh Baird" To: 

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Up Tower

2020-04-03 Thread Josh Baird
Someone who knows more about fiber, please help me out here.. Considering buying the 12count SM armored fiber [1] with the duplex cassettes [2]. To maximize the usage of the 12ct, I would like to use BiDi SFP's so that I can use a single strand of fiber per radio. If I use the correct BiDi

Re: [AFMUG] 5.9

2020-04-03 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
ePMP and 450 support it with a free key from Cambium. I’m trying to find out about PTP 550 and 670. I’m told that UBNT is working on a solution. Jeff Broadwick CTIconnect 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@cticonnect.com > On Apr 2, 2020, at 9:32 PM, Jason McKemie > wrote: >

Re: [AFMUG] CBRS LTE options

2020-04-03 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
The current options are: Less expensive: Baicells BliNQ More expensive: Telrad Cambium (when released later this year) Airspan Really expensive: Nokia Ericsson (they do have a stripped down version for WISPs, but it’s still salty) CPE supply is a HUGE problem for all or most of them. Anyone