Re: [AFMUG] Cloud Hosted Mikrotik

2020-06-12 Thread Josh Baird
One additional benefit to AWS (and similar public cloud providers) is managed services. Don't have the DBA resources to run highly available relational databases in house? Use RDS. Don't have the skillset to run containerized workloads? Use EKS/ECS. The bottom line is that AWS can provide the

Re: [AFMUG] Cloud Hosted Mikrotik

2020-06-12 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
So let me go down to the other end of the scale. All of the packetflux web presence other than the ecommerce platform lives on two Vultr VM's. Total cost? $11/month. It could actually be $5/month, but I wanted to separate out the ticketing system just because I didn't want to make a mess of th

Re: [AFMUG] Cloud Hosted Mikrotik

2020-06-12 Thread Steven Kenney
I agree.. I think I mentioned that applications only are a good trade off probably worth it in some regards. But for 24/7 servers .. nope. Good thing about apps is you don't need to manage the operating system at all. However you are at the mercy of them managing everything. -- Steven Kenney

Re: [AFMUG] RV Park Fiber

2020-06-12 Thread James Howard
And here all along I thought it was something to do with diluting things beyond any amount of actual continued presence……… From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 4:12 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RV Par

Re: [AFMUG] OT: I need your HELP!

2020-06-12 Thread Mike Hammett
We're glad to have ya back! 2,116 subscribers on YouTube. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Jay Weekley" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 9:05:5

Re: [AFMUG] Cloud Hosted Mikrotik

2020-06-12 Thread Mike Hammett
Well, they're great for applications designed for that environment. Ones that automatically spin up or shut down worker VMs as needed. Have an application that only runs from 12 AM to 4 AM to get it's work done, but there's a metric butt-load of work to do in that time? One orchestration VM, 100

Re: [AFMUG] Aviat vs Bridgewave multi-carrier battle

2020-06-12 Thread Mike Hammett
For other people, not me. Can't even get 40 MHz here. If someone's going to license two links, they're going to use those licenses anyway, might as well let them use one radio and one carrier. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers W

Re: [AFMUG] OT sprint

2020-06-12 Thread Mike Hammett
There's also Sprint's long-haul division, that's neither wireless nor local service (Embarq). - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Tim Reichhart" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"

Re: [AFMUG] OT: How to skip ads on Youtube

2020-06-12 Thread Nate Burke
I'm sure googlebot has now scanned this, and it's probably already 'fixed' it On 6/12/2020 4:12 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: We love you Bill. -Original Message- From: Bill Prince Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 2:56 PM To: AFMUG Subject: [AFMUG] OT: How to skip ads on Youtube Here's a spif

Re: [AFMUG] OT: How to skip ads on Youtube

2020-06-12 Thread chuck
We love you Bill. -Original Message- From: Bill Prince Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 2:56 PM To: AFMUG Subject: [AFMUG] OT: How to skip ads on Youtube Here's a spiffy trick. If you add a period (.) after the .com in a youtube link, it will bypass all the ads embedded or prepended.

Re: [AFMUG] RV Park Fiber

2020-06-12 Thread chuck
Gay eye doctors are just fine with me. From: James Howard Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 2:28 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RV Park Fiber But you mentioned homeopathy……… From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Friday, June 1

[AFMUG] OT: How to skip ads on Youtube

2020-06-12 Thread Bill Prince
Here's a spiffy trick. If you add a period (.) after the .com in a youtube link, it will bypass all the ads embedded or prepended. Example with ads: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tuo7PovqiIQ Example without ads: https://www.youtube.com./watch?v=Tuo7PovqiIQ -- bp -- AF mailing list AF@

Re: [AFMUG] RV Park Fiber

2020-06-12 Thread Larry Smith
Lived in Germany for three years late 60's. My landlord and his wife both had tatoo's from prison camps (they were German but did not agree with Hitler). Some of the stories they told would give me chills. Was back in Germany early 91 to late 94, and again both my landlord and his wife had prison

Re: [AFMUG] RV Park Fiber

2020-06-12 Thread James Howard
But you mentioned homeopathy……… From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 1:49 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RV Park Fiber If we need to call "lent" on discussion a well established fact like the holocaust then we're doomed. U

Re: [AFMUG] OT when men were men and high speed was T1

2020-06-12 Thread Robert
Get out of my Closet!  ( tech version of off my lawn )... On 6/12/20 11:40 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: A former co-worker stopped by with this.  A product I created 20 years ago. Allowed you to put 3 T1 repeaters in a small ped. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/

Re: [AFMUG] Antenna gain vs transmit power

2020-06-12 Thread Brian Webster
Yes the power budget stays the same and balanced it the TX power can also be increased on both ends. The one factor to consider however, is that as the gain of an antenna increase, typically the beam width decreases. So that may actually work in your favor because you are limiting the areas for

Re: [AFMUG] RV Park Fiber

2020-06-12 Thread chuck
We watched a movie called “Night and Fog” in high school. I wish I hadn’t. I will never get those images of folks being slid into the cookers out of my mind. It was a mix of nazi footage and liberators footage. Sounds like your 89th book but the film version. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Frid

Re: [AFMUG] RV Park Fiber

2020-06-12 Thread Ken Hohhof
It’s probably like the moon landing deniers. They can confront Buzz Aldrin, who can punch them in the nose. But soon everyone who was actually there will be dead, and people can rewrite history to fit their biases and conspiracy theories. Most of the people like my dad who fought in World

Re: [AFMUG] RV Park Fiber

2020-06-12 Thread chuck
I agree, certain things seem worth of being deemed fact, by definition, by acclimation, by history, by simple agreement amongst honest, logical, civil peoples. Not that newer facts can always come along and change thinking, but those are more in the realm of the best covid treatments or whether

Re: [AFMUG] RV Park Fiber

2020-06-12 Thread Steve Jones
a campground campsite is a rented domicile. you cannot make alterations to the property as with any rental. nothing can prohibit the use of an attached receiver (transmitter, yes) but is can disallow the use of even a tripod that isnt attached. It is the same as the way they can disallow a visible

Re: [AFMUG] RV Park Fiber

2020-06-12 Thread Dev
What kind of AP’s and how far apart to get decent coverage? I assume a captive portal? Mesh topology? We’re looking at Xirrus and/or Cambium e700, anyone got experience with either (or other suggestion)? > On Jun 11, 2020, at 2:48 PM, Matt Hoppes > wrote: > > Why are you doing fiber? > > We

Re: [AFMUG] RV Park Fiber

2020-06-12 Thread Adam Moffett
If we need to call "lent" on discussion a well established fact like the holocaust then we're doomed.  Up is down, black is white, all fact and truth are irrelevant. On 6/12/2020 2:07 PM, James Howard wrote: But the skeptic might argue that the fact that you knew someone with a tattoo on his

[AFMUG] OT when men were men and high speed was T1

2020-06-12 Thread chuck
A former co-worker stopped by with this. A product I created 20 years ago. Allowed you to put 3 T1 repeaters in a small ped.-- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT sprint

2020-06-12 Thread chuck
The pin flags say Sprint. I think the dig ticket may have said Sprint/Nextel. The fiber is fiber. From: Tim Reichhart Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 12:37 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT sprint ok lets be clear here is it sprint wireless or sprint that centurylin

Re: [AFMUG] OT sprint

2020-06-12 Thread Tim Reichhart
ok lets be clear here is it sprint wireless or sprint that centurylink bought? there is 2 different companies here.   -Original Message- From: "James Howard" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Date: 06/12/20 12:14 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT sprint I think the Sprint guy sounds mor

Re: [AFMUG] OT: I need your HELP!

2020-06-12 Thread James Howard
Well, you did say in the commercials that you wouldn’t be selling those reverse mortgages if you didn’t “honestly believe” they were the right thing to do. Are you saying you don’t have the same conviction about diapers? From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sen

Re: [AFMUG] RV Park Fiber

2020-06-12 Thread James Howard
But the skeptic might argue that the fact that you knew someone with a tattoo on his arm actually proves that it didn’t happen since OBVIOUSLY he wasn’t killed…… It just proves that they put people in prison camps and/or tattooed them. This topic definitely has the potential for an early Lent

Re: [AFMUG] Aviat vs Bridgewave multi-carrier battle

2020-06-12 Thread chuck
Get while the getting is good... it’s the American Way. From: Daniel White Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 11:51 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Aviat vs Bridgewave multi-carrier battle Considering how little 11GHz spectrum you have available in Chicago land already...

Re: [AFMUG] OT: I need your HELP!

2020-06-12 Thread chuck
As long as it is not diapers. From: Mathew Howard Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 11:47 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: I need your HELP! I'm pretty sure I saw you selling reverse mortgages on TV the other day... On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 10:33 AM wrote: Yeah,

Re: [AFMUG] Antenna gain vs transmit power

2020-06-12 Thread Mathew Howard
Yeah, there's that too... but whether or not you'll get distortion depends on the specific radio and on the power levels that we're talking about. If you're talking about 16dbm vs 20dbm, it's probably not going to make a difference to most radios, but 26dbm vs 30dbm is another story, On Fri, Jun 1

Re: [AFMUG] Antenna gain vs transmit power

2020-06-12 Thread Mathew Howard
Yeah... you'll lose 4db on the AP's RX side, but in some cases the the CPE TX power can be increased to compensate, so actual performance should be pretty much the same. On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 12:54 PM Daniel White wrote: > You also assuming the CPE is in the main lobe (and that lobe shape isn'

Re: [AFMUG] Antenna gain vs transmit power

2020-06-12 Thread Bill Prince
The other issue is the distortion of the transmitter at the higher power. Amp output is linear through a range of power output, and when you get to the edges of the power envelope, they can start to distort. bp On 6/12/2020 10:54 AM, Daniel White w

Re: [AFMUG] Antenna gain vs transmit power

2020-06-12 Thread Daniel White
You also assuming the CPE is in the main lobe (and that lobe shape isn't different between the sectors). Antenna Gain > TX Power Gain.  Not only because it is bi-directional but there are plenty of benefits to increasing antenna gain and not TX power. But as Adam said... a dB is a dB photograph

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Huevo con Chorizo torta

2020-06-12 Thread Jaime Solorza
Ah no...lol On Fri, Jun 12, 2020, 11:50 AM Steve Jones wrote: > I know you find it a sin to put peppers in vinegar, but we are talking > rice vinegar here > slice 4-6 decent size serranos and 2 habanero (green has better flavor, > orange has better heat) and layer them in a pint jar seeds and al

Re: [AFMUG] Aviat vs Bridgewave multi-carrier battle

2020-06-12 Thread Daniel White
Considering how little 11GHz spectrum you have available in Chicago land already... why would you want to encourage people to license even larger chucks of spectrum that they don't necessarily need? 80MHz channels came when the FCC opted to allow the previous max channel size in 11GHz to double fr

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Huevo con Chorizo torta

2020-06-12 Thread Steve Jones
I know you find it a sin to put peppers in vinegar, but we are talking rice vinegar here slice 4-6 decent size serranos and 2 habanero (green has better flavor, orange has better heat) and layer them in a pint jar seeds and all. fill it with rice vinegar and refrigerate it for 2 days. flavored heat

Re: [AFMUG] OT: I need your HELP!

2020-06-12 Thread Mathew Howard
I'm pretty sure I saw you selling reverse mortgages on TV the other day... On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 10:33 AM wrote: > Yeah, and I have been infringing on that particular piece of IP so long > that he has lost his right to enforce it I think... > > *From:* Adam Moffett > *Sent:* Friday, June 12, 2

Re: [AFMUG] RV Park Fiber

2020-06-12 Thread chuck
I was not alive during the Holocaust, nor have I ever been to Germany. So I only know what I have experienced. But the overwhelming quantity of media on the subject seems to indicate something happened Oh, and the fact I actually knew someone with a tattoo on their arm... yeah, there’s tha

Re: [AFMUG] RV Park Fiber

2020-06-12 Thread chuck
I understand some of his logic and arguments. I think there is some scientifically valid foundation for “some” of his ideas. If you were talking animal husbandry there would probably be no controversy. But the way he presented the ideas were sure to draw a s*it storm. For someone that smart

Re: [AFMUG] Antenna gain vs transmit power

2020-06-12 Thread Adam Moffett
A db is a db, but an antenna works in both directions and tx power only works in the tx direction. So they'll perform the same in one direction only. On 6/12/2020 1:20 PM, Josh wrote: If you have two ptmp antennas with the same sector width and same model ap attached to them, and one antenn

Re: [AFMUG] RV Park Fiber

2020-06-12 Thread Adam Moffett
If you mean because of the Internet then I agree with that.  I asked an astronomy question on Quora and an actual astronomer answered it.  That kind of direct access to information and expertise is amazing.  On the other hand, since anyone can put anything out there a lot of fringe people are f

[AFMUG] Antenna gain vs transmit power

2020-06-12 Thread Josh
If you have two ptmp antennas with the same sector width and same model ap attached to them, and one antenna is 4 db less gain then the other. If additional 4db of transmit power is applied to the lower gain antenna, would the two sectors perform roughly the same? Is one db of radio transmit pow

Re: [AFMUG] RV Park Fiber

2020-06-12 Thread Robert
I worked on the Stanford campus in the 70's..  saw and talked to Shockley on a semi-daily basis.  Had no idea of the idiocy that he supported.  Just seemed like a very aloof guy but liked to chat...  Yeah we are in an age where these people are getting to say what they used to have to hide...

Re: [AFMUG] RV Park Fiber

2020-06-12 Thread Adam Moffett
There's a psychology theoryI don't know the proper name of itwhere the idea is the smarter someone is the better they are at building a mental framework to support a faulty idea.  It seems to fit with the stereotype of eccentric professors. On 6/12/2020 12:11 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] RV Park Fiber

2020-06-12 Thread Larry Smith
That is true, did most of my college while serving in Europe. My economics professor was Rebecca Keynes, wasn't until like my fourth or fifth class that I found out her grandfather was John Keynes (Keynesian Theory). -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Fri June 12 2020 11:11, Ken Hohhof wrote: >

Re: [AFMUG] OT sprint

2020-06-12 Thread James Howard
I think the Sprint guy sounds more like the Crocs….. From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 11:10 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT sprint Said Pig to Rat. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 10:0

Re: [AFMUG] RV Park Fiber

2020-06-12 Thread Ken Hohhof
Professors are a mixed lot. I took a course from this guy, who apparently is still teaching although he would be well into his 80’s now. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Butz I had no idea at the time he was a Holocaust denier. I’ve never understood those people – my dad was in the Arm

Re: [AFMUG] OT sprint

2020-06-12 Thread chuck
Said Pig to Rat. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 10:02 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT sprint Chuck: What company do you work for? Locate Guy: Sprint. Chuck (now sprinting in circles): OK, what company do you work for? Actually, he’s goi

Re: [AFMUG] Cloud Hosted Mikrotik

2020-06-12 Thread Steven Kenney
Consider the $160 month over 72 months = $11520. For almost the same cost, I can get a dell server virtualize it, run multiple servers on it, and if well maintained will last well past 72 months. Its just pure math. AWS isn't cost effective unless you are using it for a lower traffic app that

Re: [AFMUG] OT sprint

2020-06-12 Thread Ken Hohhof
Chuck: What company do you work for? Locate Guy: Sprint. Chuck (now sprinting in circles): OK, what company do you work for? Actually, he’s going to need a magenta wifebeater since he’ll be working for “New T-Mobile”. From: AF On Behalf Of Robert Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 10:47

Re: [AFMUG] RV Park Fiber

2020-06-12 Thread Robert
Were you in the same class as I was?   We had the same professor, I think..  Drove me off the deep end...  Specially when he blocked the equations with his body as he erased!!   But we had this one other assoc-prof..   Name of Jim Clark..  He was wild, specially when he went into game theory an

Re: [AFMUG] OT: I need your HELP!

2020-06-12 Thread Robert
That's why you didn't want us following you...  Magnum...? LOL  following now... On 6/12/20 8:29 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I honestly don’t know how you follow me other than to read one of the answers I have posted and follow that. Things like this: https://www.quora.com/Do-I-need-to-acco

Re: [AFMUG] OT sprint

2020-06-12 Thread Robert
I love it when a plan comes together...   Thanks that kind of story makes my day...  Feifdoms are a pet peave.. On 6/12/20 8:12 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Working on engineering a new fiber line.  Called for locates.  Normally they will not do the locates unless you are actually digging.  If j

Re: [AFMUG] RV Park Fiber

2020-06-12 Thread Robert
Had a physics class with a prof who had us design a traffic light controller.   All the "hardy boys" did it with u-controllers... was pricey...  I did it with all analog/descrete components and got 1/4 the price..  Yeah, aced that class and got an offer from the prof to work with him on a signa

Re: [AFMUG] RV Park Fiber

2020-06-12 Thread Bill Prince
Oh man. I was doing great in calculus until we got to differential equations. I blame the professor. Harry Blackman. What a terrible professor! He lectured with his back to the class and wrote on the blackboard; chalk in his outstretched right hand, and eraser in

Re: [AFMUG] OT: I need your HELP!

2020-06-12 Thread chuck
Yeah, and I have been infringing on that particular piece of IP so long that he has lost his right to enforce it I think... From: Adam Moffett Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 9:31 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: I need your HELP! Nice profile pic, Magnum P.I. On 6/12/2020 11:29 A

Re: [AFMUG] OT sprint

2020-06-12 Thread chuck
The danger here is that they may ask you to pay for the design ticket expense. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 9:23 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT sprint In NY you can call in a "design ticket" and get the markings done so you can do your engineering. I didn't

Re: [AFMUG] RV Park Fiber

2020-06-12 Thread chuck
I drew a complete blank in the finite state machine final. I know exactly what you mean. I knew the stuff but it I think my FAT got corrupted or something. We are all pretty cocky 21 year olds I think. I was totally all about microcontrollers until I did my first PLC. Then it was: “why di

Re: [AFMUG] OT: I need your HELP!

2020-06-12 Thread Adam Moffett
Nice profile pic, Magnum P.I. On 6/12/2020 11:29 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I honestly don’t know how you follow me other than to read one of the answers I have posted and follow that. Things like this: https://www.quora.com/Do-I-need-to-account-for-the-phase-difference-between-dipole-antennas-

Re: [AFMUG] OT sprint

2020-06-12 Thread Josh Luthman
It's Sprint, why is he working so hard to defend them?! Glad the dickheads got put in their place. Love the county engineer proving they're trespassing, too! XD Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 11:12 AM wrot

Re: [AFMUG] OT: I need your HELP!

2020-06-12 Thread chuck
I honestly don’t know how you follow me other than to read one of the answers I have posted and follow that. Things like this: https://www.quora.com/Do-I-need-to-account-for-the-phase-difference-between-dipole-antennas-in-an-array-by-adding-a-phasing-cable I have 1510 answers on there so far.

Re: [AFMUG] OT sprint

2020-06-12 Thread Adam Moffett
In NY you can call in a "design ticket" and get the markings done so you can do your engineering.  I didn't know other places didn't do that. Great story about Sprint though. On 6/12/2020 11:12 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Working on engineering a new fiber line.  Called for locates.  Normally

Re: [AFMUG] RV Park Fiber

2020-06-12 Thread Mark Radabaugh
See, I only cared about the digital stuff. Though power, motors, etc. were pretty cool as well. Grades were good in those classes. Senior project the advisor dinged me for building a system for a plant out of a microcontroller instead of using a PLC like he suggested. But I want to do

Re: [AFMUG] RV Park Fiber

2020-06-12 Thread Robert
I worked for IBM in H.S.   swore I'd never touch another computer in my life...   "How'd that work out for you?"   Oh why didn't I follow my heart and become a hermit on an island in the pacific... On 6/12/20 7:42 AM, Mark Radabaugh wrote: Hey, I was proud of that D in Microwave and Antenna sys

Re: [AFMUG] OT sprint

2020-06-12 Thread Dennis Burgess via AF
Fun times! [LTI-Full_175px] Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE, MTCSE, HE IPv6 Sage, Cambium ePMP Certified Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition” Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.

Re: [AFMUG] OT: I need your HELP!

2020-06-12 Thread Robert
What's your quora?  I'd follow that... On 6/12/20 7:29 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: But I have 138 quora followers.  I care more about that number. *From:* ch...@wbmfg.com *Sent:* Friday, June 12, 2020 8:15 AM *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: I need your HELP! Done

Re: [AFMUG] OT: I need your HELP!

2020-06-12 Thread chuck
Really, just a handful of assorted things, mostly related to my products. One test of a bunch of rust removers. Really boring stuff. Not angling for subs. I find it astounding I have any. From: Steve Jones Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 9:05 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re

[AFMUG] OT sprint

2020-06-12 Thread chuck
Working on engineering a new fiber line. Called for locates. Normally they will not do the locates unless you are actually digging. If just engineering they will not even take the dig ticket. So, I always do some form of geo tech bore hole soil sampling etc to get the paint down on the ROW wi

Re: [AFMUG] OT: I need your HELP!

2020-06-12 Thread Steve Jones
i meant link On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 9:58 AM wrote: > Goofy crap and boring experiments. > > *From:* Steve Jones > *Sent:* Friday, June 12, 2020 8:49 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: I need your HELP! > > whats your channel chuck? > > On Fri, Jun 12, 2020

Re: [AFMUG] OT: I need your HELP!

2020-06-12 Thread Mathew Howard
You gotta post a link if you want subscribers... Actually, I'm pretty sure I'm already subscribed to Chuck's channel. On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 9:58 AM wrote: > Goofy crap and boring experiments. > > *From:* Steve Jones > *Sent:* Friday, June 12, 2020 8:49 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Gr

Re: [AFMUG] OT: I need your HELP!

2020-06-12 Thread chuck
Goofy crap and boring experiments. From: Steve Jones Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 8:49 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: I need your HELP! whats your channel chuck? On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 9:42 AM Ken Hohhof wrote: So are you guys “influencers” now? Fro

Re: [AFMUG] OT: I need your HELP!

2020-06-12 Thread Steve Jones
whats your channel chuck? On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 9:42 AM Ken Hohhof wrote: > So are you guys “influencers” now? > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com > *Sent:* Friday, June 12, 2020 9:16 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: I need your HELP! > >

Re: [AFMUG] OT: I need your HELP!

2020-06-12 Thread Dennis Burgess via AF
Lol [LTI-Full_175px] Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE, MTCSE, HE IPv6 Sage, Cambium ePMP Certified Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition” Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linkte

Re: [AFMUG] OT: I need your HELP!

2020-06-12 Thread Dennis Burgess via AF
Thanks btw! [LTI-Full_175px] Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE, MTCSE, HE IPv6 Sage, Cambium ePMP Certified Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition” Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www

Re: [AFMUG] RV Park Fiber

2020-06-12 Thread chuck
Those were the ONLY classes I cared about. Got A’s in all things antenna and RF. Got A’s in most of the linear stuff. Got the B’s in the digital crap that doesn’t matter to anyone (those guys are called bit freaks) Got a C- in integral calculus. From: Mark Radabaugh Sent: Friday, Jun

Re: [AFMUG] RV Park Fiber

2020-06-12 Thread chuck
Assuming the metal box is a ped, not the trailer here If you cut a half wavelength slot in the metal box, cover it with non metallic tape to keep the bugs out, Then on the inside of the slot you put a quarter wave probe across the middle of the slot, you now have a sector antenna. Might be

Re: [AFMUG] RV Park Fiber

2020-06-12 Thread Mark Radabaugh
Hey, I was proud of that D in Microwave and Antenna systems :-) D’s get degrees. I’m never going to use this shit. Take the EIT / PE exam? Why the hell would I ever work as a consulting engineer. Of course my first job is a consulting engineer, and I deal with microwaves and antenna sys

Re: [AFMUG] OT: I need your HELP!

2020-06-12 Thread chuck
tnx -Original Message- From: Jay Weekley Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 8:34 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: I need your HELP! 78 now. ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Done. I had to see how many subs I had. 77 *From:* Gino A. Villarini *Sent:* Friday, June 12, 2

Re: [AFMUG] OT: I need your HELP!

2020-06-12 Thread Ken Hohhof
So are you guys “influencers” now? From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 9:16 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: I need your HELP! Done. I had to see how many subs I had. 77 From: Gino A. Villarini Sent: Friday, June 12, 20

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2020-06-12 Thread Ken Hohhof
Makes you wonder if a wire and an alligator clip could turn the aluminum box into an antenna. Yeah, fields & waves was not my best course in college. And I have a fear of heights. So of course I end up running a WISP. But turning a Faraday cage into an antenna is probably not my best idea

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2020-06-12 Thread Jay Weekley
78 now. ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Done. I had to see how many subs I had. 77 *From:* Gino A. Villarini *Sent:* Friday, June 12, 2020 5:57 AM *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT: I need your HELP! Friends & Colleagues, Help me reach 100 subs on my Youtube channel so I can

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2020-06-12 Thread chuck
But I have 138 quora followers. I care more about that number. From: ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 8:15 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: I need your HELP! Done. I had to see how many subs I had. 77 From: Gino A. Villarini Sent: Friday, June 12,

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2020-06-12 Thread chuck
Done. I had to see how many subs I had. 77 From: Gino A. Villarini Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 5:57 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: [AFMUG] OT: I need your HELP! Friends & Colleagues, Help me reach 100 subs on my Youtube channel so I can have a url! Gigabits & Gigahertz

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2020-06-12 Thread Mark Radabaugh
I like your solution actually. Should work out well. Hardest part with trailers is getting through the aluminum box. Putting AP’s close will help a lot. Mark > On Jun 12, 2020, at 9:54 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: > > Wow this thread blew up while I was sleeping. > > I'm proposing both a wi

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2020-06-12 Thread Dennis Burgess via AF
Guess I can’t get anyone to subscribe to mine, since we are asking 😊 https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIPCmnxlC5Ds7MphT_gCcuA/ [LTI-Full_175px] Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE, MTCSE, HE IPv6 Sage, Cambium ePMP Certified Author of "Learn RouterOS-

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2020-06-12 Thread Jay Weekley
I subscribed to you both. I hadn't heard anything about the Brothers Wisp in a while. Glad content is still being produced. Jaime Solorza wrote: I am 103! On Fri, Jun 12, 2020, 7:53 AM Gino A. Villarini > wrote: Done *From: *AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug

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2020-06-12 Thread Robert
It _is_ a matter of what's legal or not.   LAWS preclude a private contract...  Whoa, you need to understand how the whole system works.   Otherwise there would be a ton of contracts precluding certain races from buying in certain neighborhoods.. Or from riding certain buses.   That RV park own

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2020-06-12 Thread Jaime Solorza
I am 103! On Fri, Jun 12, 2020, 7:53 AM Gino A. Villarini wrote: > Done > > > > *From: *AF on behalf of Mike Hammett < > af...@ics-il.net> > *Reply-To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Date: *Friday, June 12, 2020 at 8:31 AM > *To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG

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2020-06-12 Thread Adam Moffett
Wow this thread blew up while I was sleeping. I'm proposing both a wireless and fiber solution.  I'm sure they'll pick WiFi because it'll be cheaper, but I wanted to put all the cards on the table. As far as why I'm bothering to propose fiber: 1) If there's fiber to the power pedestal, and e

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2020-06-12 Thread Gino A. Villarini
Done From: AF on behalf of Mike Hammett Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Date: Friday, June 12, 2020 at 8:31 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: I need your HELP! Mine too. ;-) Well, we alreadyh ave the custom URL, but appreciate the subs anyway. :-)

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2020-06-12 Thread Chuck McCown
So, a guest of the park signs an agreement not to turn on a personal hotspot on their phone? Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 12, 2020, at 6:08 AM, Matt Hoppes > wrote: > >  > Hotspots are also restricted. > > It’s not a matter of what’s legal or not via OTARD. No one comes into this > not bei

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2020-06-12 Thread Mark Radabaugh
> On Jun 12, 2020, at 8:08 AM, Matt Hoppes > wrote: > > Hotspots are also restricted. Now that one will get them into a shitload of trouble, especially if you try to actively block them: https://www.fcc.gov/document/marriott-pay-600k-resolve-wifi-blocking-investigation

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2020-06-12 Thread Mike Hammett
I don't think anyone has an issue with this, but you. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Matt Hoppes" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2020 8:44:44 PM

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2020-06-12 Thread Mike Hammett
Mine too. ;-) Well, we alreadyh ave the custom URL, but appreciate the subs anyway. :-) http://www.youtube.com/c/TheBrothersWISP - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Gino A. Villarini

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2020-06-12 Thread Matt Hoppes
Hotspots are also restricted. It’s not a matter of what’s legal or not via OTARD. No one comes into this not being aware of what the rules are. Nothing preclude a private contract from prohibiting someone from using a satellite antenna, you can agree or not agree to the contract. I suppose if

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2020-06-12 Thread Gino A. Villarini
Friends & Colleagues, Help me reach 100 subs on my Youtube channel so I can have a url! Gigabits & Gigahertz is a vlog with industry content for all to enjoy. I hope it brings value to you all. Comments and suggestions welcomed! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-qjRCvu2lNt89xaXppPIEQ/

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2020-06-12 Thread Tim Hardy
My read is the RV Park is on very shaky ground here. Most RVs and trucks now have fixed antennas underneath radomes on the roof. There’s just no basis for restricting one from receiving satellite signals through these antennas - as Chuck commented, are you going to knock on their door to ensur