Re: [AFMUG] OT: Buying land

2021-01-03 Thread Brian Webster
Sometimes a good land surveyor can help you get a prescriptive easement in situations like this. Mt brother is a surveyor so my understanding of how he has done this in some cases is probably not the legal way of describing it. MY understanding is it goes like this. If a person has been granted

Re: [AFMUG] OT : Power company

2021-01-03 Thread Robert
I had the same thing happen when two phases crossed through harmonic pumping on the power lines got them really moving.  Replaced everything that blew and that we could prove the cost of. On 1/3/21 3:10 PM, Bill Prince wrote: Not sure what you're talking about. PG was found liable for many

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Buying land

2021-01-03 Thread Bill Prince
I think those are called land locked or something similar. Unless and until an owner (or prospective owner) can buy deeded access, it would be worthless to anyone except perhaps a helicopter pilot. bp On 1/3/2021 4:23 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: The absolute cheapest land seems to have no

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Buying land

2021-01-03 Thread Adam Moffett
The absolute cheapest land seems to have no deeded access at all.  I'm not sure who would ever buy those lotsbut someone is selling it so therefore they bought it at one time. On 1/3/2021 6:04 PM, Bill Prince wrote: I can add another thing. We live on a quarter section that was divided

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Buying land

2021-01-03 Thread Bill Prince
None-the-less, he is not allowed to block or impede our access in any way. Furthermore, we can not be accused of trespassing. bp On 1/3/2021 4:16 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: But if you go to the recorder's office and look up the "owner" of that area based on metes and bounds, it would

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Buying land

2021-01-03 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
But if you go to the recorder's office and look up the "owner" of that area based on metes and bounds, it would probably be the beer drinking redneck, right? (That is mean, I am sure there are gun toting liberals that imbibe too, but the news never features those guys). -Original

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Buying land

2021-01-03 Thread Bill Prince
It's a non-exclusive easement for a whole list of things including who is responsible for maintenance, and so on. It's not really private as we own the dominant tenament. bp On 1/3/2021 4:03 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: Well, he is right, the easement is private property... But easements

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Buying land

2021-01-03 Thread Mathew Howard
No lizard people are innocent... On Sun, Jan 3, 2021 at 4:51 PM Bill Prince wrote: > Tell that to the innocent lizard people. > > > bp > > > On 1/3/2021 2:39 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: > > There is absolutely nothing wrong with that plan! > > On Sun, Jan 3, 2021 at 3:37 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: >

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Buying land

2021-01-03 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Well, he is right, the easement is private property... But easements are better than a quit claim deed. You don't have to pay property tax or liability insurance and you get to enjoy the land as your own (within the prescriptive uses on the easement). -Original Message- From: Bill

Re: [AFMUG] OT : Power company

2021-01-03 Thread Matt Hoppes
Ok. Maybe they will pay for brown out/surge damage then. Just not food spoilage once it’s out. I would argue an outage is my issue. A surge/extended brown out is there issue. So. Power company had a five minute 60 volt brown out Friday before a fuse blew. Took out our TV/VCR/DVD combo. I’m

Re: [AFMUG] OT : Power company

2021-01-03 Thread Ken Hohhof
I've heard of ComEd in our area paying for damaged appliances due to an overvoltage surge, but I don't know that they had to do it. -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes Sent: Sunday, January 3, 2021 5:13 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT :

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Buying land

2021-01-03 Thread Jaime Solorza
Lol.. On Sun, Jan 3, 2021, 2:37 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > Please tell me you don't want this land so you can go there with your RV > and hunt for lizard people. > > -Original Message- > From: AF On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF > Sent: Sunday, January 3, 2021 2:59 PM > To: AnimalFarm

Re: [AFMUG] OT : Power company

2021-01-03 Thread Nate Burke
Power going out and your food spoiling I thought was on you, if they give you bad power and blow up your fridge, then it's on them. Although, if it happens during a storm, how can you prove that it was the power that was the problem? And their lawyers are probably more expensive than your

Re: [AFMUG] OT : Power company

2021-01-03 Thread Bill Prince
Maybe the difference between California and Pennsylvania (or other states)? bp On 1/3/2021 3:12 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote: Interesting. I’ve always heard they were immune. On Jan 3, 2021, at 6:11 PM, Bill Prince wrote: Not sure what you're talking about. PG was found liable for many

Re: [AFMUG] OT : Power company

2021-01-03 Thread Matt Hoppes
Interesting. I’ve always heard they were immune. > On Jan 3, 2021, at 6:11 PM, Bill Prince wrote: > > Not sure what you're talking about. PG was found liable for many billions > of dollars of property damage after several fires were determined to have > originated from their falling power

Re: [AFMUG] OT : Power company

2021-01-03 Thread Bill Prince
Not sure what you're talking about. PG was found liable for many billions of dollars of property damage after several fires were determined to have originated from their falling power lines. They had to go bankrupt to resolve the cost. They were also found liable when their poorly constructed

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Buying land

2021-01-03 Thread Bill Prince
I can add another thing. We live on a quarter section that was divided into 4 approximately 40 acre parcels. Most of the land is not really "buildable" except for a dozen or so acres on the ridge top. They carved up the parcels to give everyone close to the same amount of ridge top space, and

[AFMUG] OT : Power company

2021-01-03 Thread Matt Hoppes
How is it that power companies have immunity from damage? It’s like a Shaggy song. Send a surge that blows appliances? Wasn’t me. Send 60 volts for 5 minutes that kills stuff? Wasn’t me. Food all goes bad because we killed your freezer? Wasn’t me. I’m not talking about a full on outage. That

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Buying land

2021-01-03 Thread Bill Prince
Tell that to the innocent lizard people. bp On 1/3/2021 2:39 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: There is absolutely nothing wrong with that plan! On Sun, Jan 3, 2021 at 3:37 PM Ken Hohhof wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Buying land

2021-01-03 Thread Mathew Howard
There is absolutely nothing wrong with that plan! On Sun, Jan 3, 2021 at 3:37 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > Please tell me you don't want this land so you can go there with your RV > and hunt for lizard people. > > -Original Message- > From: AF On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF > Sent: Sunday,

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Buying land

2021-01-03 Thread Adam Moffett
If I do, that's my own dang business. 'Murica On 1/3/2021 4:37 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Please tell me you don't want this land so you can go there with your RV and hunt for lizard people. -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF Sent: Sunday, January 3, 2021 2:59

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Buying land

2021-01-03 Thread Ken Hohhof
Please tell me you don't want this land so you can go there with your RV and hunt for lizard people. -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF Sent: Sunday, January 3, 2021 2:59 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Cc: Chuck McCown Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Buying

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Buying land

2021-01-03 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
A good title insurance policy should dig up and disclose all the gotchas. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 3, 2021, at 9:19 AM, Bill Prince wrote: > > Depending on the terrain, see if you can get your hands on a parcel map and > any benchmarks. Property boundaries can be an issue. If you can't

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Buying land

2021-01-03 Thread Brian Webster
EPA sites have been mentioned already but also you should take a look at historic preservation databases as well to make sure there aren’t undue restrictions for some odd reason. Also I would research the zoning laws and/or lack of in the area of interest. Pay attention to things like

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Buying land

2021-01-03 Thread Bill Prince
Depending on the terrain, see if you can get your hands on a parcel map and any benchmarks. Property boundaries can be an issue. If you can't do that, get a title insurance policy that insures you against any future boundary disputes. if there is a time limit in the insurance policy, make sure

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Buying land

2021-01-03 Thread Adam Moffett
Well and septic are optional for me, but yeah they matter for resale. On 1/3/2021 8:25 AM, David Coudron wrote: If you think you will be going off grid or something similar it might not matter.   However, it still might make sense that you can get a well and private septic on the property

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Buying land

2021-01-03 Thread David Coudron
If you think you will be going off grid or something similar it might not matter. However, it still might make sense that you can get a well and private septic on the property some day. It is hard to invest much in a cabin without those options available. Not every property qualifies for

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Buying land

2021-01-03 Thread Lewis Bergman
Doesn't sound like you are looking anywhere that would have been industrial or commercial but if you were, the EPA doesn't care who was responsible for dumping hazardous waste, the current owner assumes liability for it. I think wetlands are only an issue if you want to modify that part of your

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Buying land

2021-01-03 Thread Adam Moffett
Good thoughts, thanks. On 1/3/2021 1:20 AM, Cassidy B. Larson wrote: Sources of water or water rights for the property. Here they don’t let you build a cabin without it. Taxes. Not sure about your state, but here “greenbelt” (grazed on/agricultural) land gets substantially lower tax rates.

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Buying land

2021-01-03 Thread Adam Moffett
Thankfully, I love bullets. On 1/3/2021 4:48 AM, Steve Jones wrote: If you can tolerate all 4 seasons in a day and an occasional bird size mosquito  Arkansas is the place to go. Just make sure to not buy anything next to me if you dont like bullets On Sun, Jan 3, 2021, 12:21 AM Cassidy B.

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Buying land

2021-01-03 Thread Steve Jones
If you can tolerate all 4 seasons in a day and an occasional bird size mosquito Arkansas is the place to go. Just make sure to not buy anything next to me if you dont like bullets On Sun, Jan 3, 2021, 12:21 AM Cassidy B. Larson wrote: > Sources of water or water rights for the property. Here