[AFMUG] What are you gents using?

2021-12-17 Thread Jaime Solorza
Several WISPs in area are getting hammered with 5GHz interference especially with DFS hits, the normal channels are overcrowded... Ubiquiti and Cambium is mostly what they are usinga few Mimosa out there but I know one wisp who replaced all of his with Cambium and 60Ghz AirFiber.. Any ideas? --

Re: [AFMUG] What are you gents using?

2021-12-17 Thread Matt Hoppes
where is the interference coming from? On 12/17/21 11:34 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote: Several WISPs in area are getting hammered with 5GHz interference especially with DFS hits, the normal channels are overcrowded... Ubiquiti and Cambium is mostly what they are usinga few Mimosa out there but I

Re: [AFMUG] What are you gents using?

2021-12-17 Thread dmmoffett
If 5ghz is no bueno then I suppose CBRS is the next option. You still might have to fight for channels, but the cost barrier reduces the number of players in the game. From: AF On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Friday, December 17, 2021 11:34 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Sub

Re: [AFMUG] What are you gents using?

2021-12-17 Thread Bill Prince
Jaime is near the border with Mexico, so gets bonus interference from across the border. bp On 12/17/2021 8:38 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote: where is the interference coming from? On 12/17/21 11:34 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote: Several WISPs in area are getting hammered with 5GHz interference especial

Re: [AFMUG] What are you gents using?

2021-12-17 Thread dmmoffett
Or default your radios, set your country code to Hong Kong and start operating out of band. If anybody comes sniffing around about it just blame Mexico. From: AF On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Friday, December 17, 2021 11:34 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: [AFMUG] Wha

Re: [AFMUG] What are you gents using?

2021-12-17 Thread Daniel White
Better antennas.  Smaller channels.  Closer sites to the subscriber.  Better use of geography to block noise.  Lower AGL of APs on towers.  More antenna gain. This isn't an equipment question really... it is an RF Engineering exercise. All things equal equipment like Cambium 450 will outperform e

[AFMUG] OT Lawsuits

2021-12-17 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Another win this morning. So far, I have a lifetime batting average of 1000. Never lost a case. Even though I have another one against the same defendant that I am not so sure about. I might lose the next case. Kinda a second bite of the same apple. I might drop it if my attorney thinks I

Re: [AFMUG] What are you gents using?

2021-12-17 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Gee guys, I thought the mm wave radios were going to eliminate the problem... From: Daniel White Sent: Friday, December 17, 2021 10:42 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group ; Jaime Solorza Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What are you gents using? Better antennas. Smaller channels. Closer sites to the

Re: [AFMUG] What are you gents using?

2021-12-17 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Fiber From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Friday, December 17, 2021 9:34 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: [AFMUG] What are you gents using? Several WISPs in area are getting hammered with 5GHz interference especially with DFS hits, the normal channels are overcrowded... Ubiquiti and Cam

Re: [AFMUG] What are you gents using?

2021-12-17 Thread Mathew Howard
Well, technically, mmwave radios pretty much do eliminate that problem. It's just that they add a bunch of other problems... On Fri, Dec 17, 2021 at 12:18 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > Gee guys, I thought the mm wave radios were going to eliminate the > problem... > > *From:* Daniel White > *S

Re: [AFMUG] What are you gents using?

2021-12-17 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Like extreme short range, they quit in bad weather, things like that? From: Mathew Howard Sent: Friday, December 17, 2021 11:45 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What are you gents using? Well, technically, mmwave radios pretty much do eliminate that problem. It's ju

Re: [AFMUG] What are you gents using?

2021-12-17 Thread Mathew Howard
Yeah, that... We've had pretty good luck with mmwave if we keep them under 1/4 mile or so, but that's about as far as you can push ptmp and keep a reasonably reliable connection. ptp mmwave is useful for several miles, if you use them for the right purposes. On Fri, Dec 17, 2021 at 12:53 PM Chuck

Re: [AFMUG] What are you gents using?

2021-12-17 Thread Jan-GAMs
Is ubnt LTU not being considered? On 12/17/21 11:02, Mathew Howard wrote: Yeah, that... We've had pretty good luck with mmwave if we keep them under 1/4 mile or so, but that's about as far as you can push ptmp and keep a reasonably reliable connection. ptp mmwave is useful for several miles,

Re: [AFMUG] What are you gents using?

2021-12-17 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
UBNT still around? From: Jan-GAMs Sent: Friday, December 17, 2021 12:29 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What are you gents using? Is ubnt LTU not being considered? On 12/17/21 11:02, Mathew Howard wrote: Yeah, that... We've had pretty good luck with mmwave if we keep them un

Re: [AFMUG] What are you gents using?

2021-12-17 Thread dmmoffett
Lol I actually really like LTU, but I just think it’s safe to assume Ubiquiti will screw me over if I build a business around it. From: AF On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF Sent: Friday, December 17, 2021 3:05 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Cc: Chuck McCown Subject: Re: [AFMUG]

Re: [AFMUG] What are you gents using?

2021-12-17 Thread Cameron Crum
might be LAA (License Assisted Access). The carriers are allowed to try to offload data to unlicensed spectrum now using this. On Fri, Dec 17, 2021 at 10:35 AM Jaime Solorza wrote: > Several WISPs in area are getting hammered with 5GHz interference > especially with DFS hits, the normal channels

Re: [AFMUG] What are you gents using?

2021-12-17 Thread Robert Andrews
Like suing you... On 12/17/21 12:27 PM, dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote: Lol I actually really like LTU, but I just think it’s safe to assume Ubiquiti will screw me over if I build a business around it. *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown via AF *Sent:* Friday, December 17, 2021 3:05 PM *To:*

Re: [AFMUG] What are you gents using?

2021-12-17 Thread dmmoffett
That wasn't a serious concern for me, no. They tend to leave old product behind and stop supporting it in their various softwares. "old" could be 2 years (Air Vision) or maybe a lot longer, but you can't know ahead of time. If they've pulled the rug out from under me several times and yet I

Re: [AFMUG] What are you gents using?

2021-12-17 Thread Mathew Howard
Based on what I've read, and my own experience with the PTP radios, LTU probably isn't the best option if interference is the problem. On Fri, Dec 17, 2021 at 5:01 PM wrote: > That wasn't a serious concern for me, no. > > They tend to leave old product behind and stop supporting it in their > va