Re: [AFMUG] underground footage expectations

2022-02-10 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
ed to be cut. >> At the very least they would be on the hook for vault and splicing. >> >> From: Steve Jones >> Sent: Wednesday, February 9, 2022 8:05 AM >> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] underground footage expectations >>

Re: [AFMUG] underground footage expectations

2022-02-09 Thread Steve Jones
ithout splices if for some reason it needed to be > cut. At the very least they would be on the hook for vault and splicing. > > *From:* Steve Jones > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 9, 2022 8:05 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] underground foota

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2022-02-09 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] underground footage expectations what is the normal tolerance on damage splices for that 30k feet. I assume tolerances is contract base, but if you wanted that 30k uncut, at what point would you consider the contract terms not met? If a cut

Re: [AFMUG] underground footage expectations

2022-02-09 Thread Steve Jones
Anybody have an example contractor contract/PO they could share? Im not specifically concerned with actual rates as much as terms of the contract On Wed, Feb 9, 2022 at 9:03 AM Josh Luthman wrote: > We also tested every spool after delivery and before the contractor could > touch it. We know

Re: [AFMUG] underground footage expectations

2022-02-09 Thread Steve Jones
what is the normal tolerance on damage splices for that 30k feet. I assume tolerances is contract base, but if you wanted that 30k uncut, at what point would you consider the contract terms not met? If a cut necessitates an unplanned vault, who is normally responsible to provide the splice case

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2022-02-09 Thread Josh Luthman
We also tested every spool after delivery and before the contractor could touch it. We know it's 100% good when we gave it to them, so if something is screwed in the field it was between when we handed it off and now. On Wed, Feb 9, 2022 at 4:08 AM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > Test spools

Re: [AFMUG] underground footage expectations

2022-02-09 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Test spools prior to construction. We do a slack loop every 3000’ or less. If you have damage you can shift slack to add the splice. Only splice where you have to. I like 30,000’ reels when going long distances. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 8, 2022, at 10:18 PM, Steve Jones wrote: > > 

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2022-02-08 Thread Steve Jones
on long haul direct buy what do you expect unspliced? what is the normal mitigation for a midspan unplanned installation damage? I assume that contract terms defined, but what is the norm? Like if you are at a crossing and catch the figure 8 with a track or something? What about if theres a

Re: [AFMUG] underground footage expectations

2022-02-08 Thread Chris Fabien
We have pretty favorable conditions for both drilling/plowing. We do work in house and also hire some out. Last year we paid $5-8/ft for drilling and $1.50-2/ft for plowing. Production, when I drill with one other guy locating, in open ground we can usually do >1000ft in a full day although often

Re: [AFMUG] underground footage expectations

2022-02-07 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
have never done it but I am pretty sure we could do it if we tried. From: Steve Jones Sent: Monday, February 7, 2022 1:29 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] underground footage expectations What drives that rate up? big crews? big wage? depth of bore? a lot

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2022-02-07 Thread Steve Jones
rowave Users Group > *Cc:* Chuck McCown > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] underground footage expectations > > Yes > > *From:* Steve Jones > *Sent:* Monday, February 7, 2022 12:25 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] underground footage expectations >

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2022-02-07 Thread Josh Luthman
, 2022 12:55 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Cc:* Chuck McCown > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] underground footage expectations > > Yes > > *From:* Steve Jones > *Sent:* Monday, February 7, 2022 12:25 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] undergr

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2022-02-07 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
If the contactor provides the material the customer will always pay more for the overall job. From: Chuck McCown via AF Sent: Monday, February 7, 2022 12:55 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Cc: Chuck McCown Subject: Re: [AFMUG] underground footage expectations Yes From: Steve Jones

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2022-02-07 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Yes From: Steve Jones Sent: Monday, February 7, 2022 12:25 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] underground footage expectations thats excluding material? On Mon, Feb 7, 2022 at 1:08 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: I have received as high as $23 and frequently get

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2022-02-07 Thread Steve Jones
utube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > -------------- > *From: *"Steve Jones" > *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > *Sent: *Monday, February 7, 2022 11:52:46 AM > *Subject: *[AFMUG] underground footage expectations > > wheth

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2022-02-07 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
I have received as high as $23 and frequently get $16 From: Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, February 7, 2022 12:03 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] underground footage expectations I've paid anywhere from $8.50 - $14. I'm looking to bring it in-house for our next larger

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2022-02-07 Thread Mike Hammett
Jones" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Monday, February 7, 2022 11:52:46 AM Subject: [AFMUG] underground footage expectations whether it be crewed or contracted, where do you sit rule of thumb on footage expectations on average. I know conditions, soil types, all that ha

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2022-02-07 Thread Bill Prince
rowave Users Group Subject: [AFMUG] underground footage expectations   whether it be crewed or contracted, where do y

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2022-02-07 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
: Monday, February 7, 2022 11:54 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] underground footage expectations Im looking plowed and drilled rates what gets you to be comfortable at 13 feet drilled? is it just youre area tends to be hard drilling or only short work thats gotta offset

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2022-02-07 Thread Steve Jones
ou will have to figure 8 the whole reel > every time you want to go under a driveway, street or culvert etc. Conduit > you just cut and couple. Then blow the fiber in in one shot of 3000’ > plus. > > *From:* Steve Jones > *Sent:* Monday, February 7, 2022 10:52 AM > *To:* Anima

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2022-02-07 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
the whole reel every time you want to go under a driveway, street or culvert etc. Conduit you just cut and couple. Then blow the fiber in in one shot of 3000’ plus. From: Steve Jones Sent: Monday, February 7, 2022 10:52 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: [AFMUG] underground footage

[AFMUG] underground footage expectations

2022-02-07 Thread Steve Jones
whether it be crewed or contracted, where do you sit rule of thumb on footage expectations on average. I know conditions, soil types, all that have a factor to play, but where do you start to cringe on production? ducted fiber, direct bury, city and rural. What you contracted comfort zone per