Re: [AFMUG] Shadenfreude

2023-03-19 Thread Mike Hammett
quot; To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Wednesday, March 8, 2023 12:04:40 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Shadenfreude See, I look at it the opposite. Physics may limit any new tech, but really we havent seen any wireless advances, just wider bandwidth, higher modulation, more s

Re: [AFMUG] Shadenfreude

2023-03-19 Thread Mike Hammett
I know a WISP that picks up MetroNet (large FTTx only) customers all of the time. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Chuck McCown via AF" To: af@af.afmug.com Cc: "Chuck McCown" Sen

Re: [AFMUG] Shadenfreude

2023-03-08 Thread Steve Jones
10 Mbps on Canopy. > That burst mode was the bomb until Netflix arrived. > > -Original Message- > From: dmmoff...@gmail.com > Sent: Wednesday, March 8, 2023 7:37 AM > To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Shadenfreude > > Almost soun

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2023-03-08 Thread dmmoffett
could do a 100% respectable job with wireless. -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2023 11:52 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Cc: Chuck McCown Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Shadenfreude I am impressed at the advancemen

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2023-03-08 Thread Jason McKemie
> To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Shadenfreude > > Almost sounds like you're not serious. Fiber really is the future. > > How much wireless bandwidth is there to work with? If we kicked out all > incumbent microwave user

Re: [AFMUG] Shadenfreude

2023-03-08 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
... And to think that we used to be so happy to advertise 10 Mbps on Canopy. That burst mode was the bomb until Netflix arrived. -Original Message- From: dmmoff...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, March 8, 2023 7:37 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sh

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2023-03-08 Thread dmmoffett
take. -Adam -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2023 8:57 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group ; Jan-GAMs Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Shadenfreude But... But... fiber is the future. On 3/7/23 4:29 PM, Jan-GAMs wrote: > Our fiber

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2023-03-08 Thread Steve Jones
From: Matt Hoppes > > Sent: Tuesday, March 7, 2023 1:27 PM > > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > > Cc: Chuck McCown > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Shadenfreude > > > > Why did they come back? A properly running WISP should be as stable as > > a fiber conne

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2023-03-08 Thread dmmoffett
That’s pretty amazing. From: AF On Behalf Of Jan-GAMs Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2023 4:29 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Shadenfreude Our fiber competitor is using fiber to connect to a DSL connection. Those customers who left our wisp for them came back within a few days

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2023-03-08 Thread Matt Hoppes
ave Users Group Cc: Chuck McCown Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Shadenfreude Why did they come back?  A properly running WISP should be as stable as a fiber connection. We rarely get service calls on wireless -- usually it's something related to the customer's router or interference they have cause

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2023-03-08 Thread Matt Hoppes
But... But... fiber is the future. On 3/7/23 4:29 PM, Jan-GAMs wrote: Our fiber competitor is using fiber to connect to a DSL connection. Those customers who left our wisp for them came back within a few days. On 3/6/23 12:55, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: Had our first fiber customer disco

Re: [AFMUG] Shadenfreude

2023-03-08 Thread Matt Hoppes
sp". I bet we can all think up a huge list of dumb things we've seen, heard, or maybe done ourselves. -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2023 3:27 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Shadenfreude Why did the

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2023-03-07 Thread Bill Prince
] Shadenfreude That's lost revenue!!! On Mon, Mar 6, 2023 at 6:18 PM Chuck McCown wrote: We refer those guys to the wisp. *From:* Josh Luthman *Sent:* Monday, March 6, 2023 3:07 PM *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group *Cc:* Chuck McCown *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Shadenf

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2023-03-07 Thread Seth Mattinen via AF
On 3/7/23 3:06 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: Well everybuddy knows that  you can't compete with fiber, right?! (this guy (the WISP) is a coder/IT guy that decided becoming a WISP is easy. Heavy advertising as FOTA.  I think he is learning that pesky RF stuff might indeed be important)

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2023-03-07 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
oppes Sent: Tuesday, March 7, 2023 1:27 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Cc: Chuck McCown Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Shadenfreude Why did they come back? A properly running WISP should be as stable as a fiber connection. We rarely get service calls on wireless -- usually it's something rela

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2023-03-07 Thread Jan-GAMs
Our fiber competitor is using fiber to connect to a DSL connection.  Those customers who left our wisp for them came back within a few days. On 3/6/23 12:55, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: Had our first fiber customer disconnect to go to a new WISP in the area. They said the new service was half th

Re: [AFMUG] Shadenfreude

2023-03-07 Thread dmmoffett
inal Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2023 3:27 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Shadenfreude Why did they come back? A properly running WISP should be as stable as a fiber connection. We rarely get service calls on wireless -- usu

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2023-03-07 Thread Matt Hoppes
Why did they come back? A properly running WISP should be as stable as a fiber connection. We rarely get service calls on wireless -- usually it's something related to the customer's router or interference they have caused that doesn't change with fiber. On 3/6/23 3:55 PM, Chuck McCown

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2023-03-07 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Yeah, but complainers like that deserve to go to the minor leagues. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, March 7, 2023 9:20 AM To: Chuck McCown Cc: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Shadenfreude That's lost revenue!!! On Mon, Mar 6, 2023 at 6:18 PM Chuck McCown

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2023-03-07 Thread Josh Luthman
That's lost revenue!!! On Mon, Mar 6, 2023 at 6:18 PM Chuck McCown wrote: > We refer those guys to the wisp. > > *From:* Josh Luthman > *Sent:* Monday, March 6, 2023 3:07 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Cc:* Chuck McCown > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Shade

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2023-03-06 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
We refer those guys to the wisp. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, March 6, 2023 3:07 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Cc: Chuck McCown Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Shadenfreude Fiber customer called today. They want to paint the walls but couldn't remove the wall plate. They d

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2023-03-06 Thread Josh Luthman
Fiber customer called today. They want to paint the walls but couldn't remove the wall plate. They didn't understand that they could unplug the wall wart to remove the wall plate. How does fiber fix these calls? On Mon, Mar 6, 2023 at 3:57 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > Had our first fiber c

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2023-03-06 Thread Sterling Jacobson
Lol We get about equal service tickets for fiber and wireless customers, but our fiber footprint is about 3x wireless and over half of the fiber plant is almost a decade old. I attribute my excellent wireless skillz and awesome group of dedicated employees to that though. From: AF On Behalf