[AFMUG] mikrotik home router question

2015-08-03 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
we have a new customer who called in this morning trying to connect to his wireless printer. Looking for a button on the router to make it transmit. I assume he's looking for a one touch config type deal. Assuming mikrotik does not support this? What to do?

Re: [AFMUG] mikrotik home router question

2015-08-03 Thread Josh Luthman
It's called WPS. MT doesn't have it and others shouldn't have it. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Aug 3, 2015 11:38 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: we have a new customer who called in this morning trying

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up the tower vs. ethernet

2015-08-03 Thread Lewis Bergman
Before we sold we went to a model with a pair of 14awg for power and four fibers in one armored cable. We used a planet poe switch up top and a single dc surge arrestor for the power. Worked well as far as I know. I could try to find out what model we used. I probably still have some lying about I

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up the tower vs. ethernet

2015-08-03 Thread Mike Hammett
Still working on getting non-licensed gear to support SFPs. Lots of WISPA presentations on fiber up to switches the last... four years or so. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com -

Re: [AFMUG] mikrotik home router question

2015-08-03 Thread Mike Hammett
No one should support those buttons. They're insecure. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net To: memb...@wispa.org,

Re: [AFMUG] mikrotik home router question

2015-08-03 Thread Adam Moffett
AKA: the button people push when they want to break everything. On 8/3/2015 11:46 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: It's called WPS. MT doesn't have it and others shouldn't have it. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Aug 3, 2015 11:38 AM,

Re: [AFMUG] mikrotik home router question

2015-08-03 Thread Glen Waldrop
Agreed. 90% of the time the WPS button connects one device and knocks off three. I hate those things. I disable the WPS button at every opportunity. - Original Message - From: Adam Moffett To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 10:47 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG]

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up the tower vs. ethernet

2015-08-03 Thread Mike Hammett
Before we sold You sold? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: Lewis Bergman lewis.berg...@gmail.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, August 3, 2015 10:47:53

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up the tower vs. ethernet

2015-08-03 Thread Josh Luthman
Yes he did, a while ago. Made out pretty well I think! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 11:51 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: Before we sold You sold? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing

Re: [AFMUG] Netgear routers

2015-08-03 Thread Ken Hohhof
I have seen a high WiFi failure rate on their low end WNR2000 model, but not that specific problem. I have also seen Netgear incompatibilities with Lenovo ultrabooks with Win8.1 and Intel 802.11ac where all WiFi clients are kicked off and the router has to be power cycled, but not affecting

[AFMUG] Fiber up the tower vs. ethernet

2015-08-03 Thread Paul McCall
We are seeking feedback from people that are using fiber up the tower instead of Cat5. Interested to know what equipment (power) you are running at the base, and what equipment (switches, routers, POE, Ethernet protection etc.) that you have at the top. How is it working for you? Has having

[AFMUG] Netgear routers

2015-08-03 Thread Glen Waldrop
Has anyone else encountered a Netgear 802.11n router that shuts down the entire 2.4GHz band for 60 seconds every five minutes? I've had two of them do that and just found one running near a rural AP that is having trouble. Every five minutes the entire band is useless for one minute, they lose

Re: [AFMUG] Alpha wireless omni

2015-08-03 Thread Chuck McCown
Who is your new gig? From: Daniel White Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 6:40 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Alpha wireless omni I can be too :-) Talk to me next week. My new gig distributes Alpha Wireless antennas as well. Thank you, Daniel White afmu...@gmail.com Cell:

[AFMUG] what radio is this?

2015-08-03 Thread Rory Conaway
[http://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/webpass-640x480.jpeg] Rory Conaway * Triad Wireless * CEO 4226 S. 37th Street * Phoenix * AZ 85040 602-426-0542 r...@triadwireless.netmailto:r...@triadwireless.net www.triadwireless.nethttp://www.triadwireless.net/ Experience is a hard

Re: [AFMUG] what radio is this?

2015-08-03 Thread Chuck McCown
That’s all I got... From: Chuck McCown Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 10:22 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what radio is this? San Francisco. From: Rory Conaway Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 10:17 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] what radio is this? Rory Conaway • Triad

Re: [AFMUG] SM450d

2015-08-03 Thread TJ Trout
tessco? bend over On Aug 3, 2015 5:26 PM, Carl Peterson cpeter...@portnetworks.com wrote: Tried today. Tessco said it would be a few weeks... On Aug 3, 2015, at 3:53 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Anyone bought one?

Re: [AFMUG] Competitor parts quality.

2015-08-03 Thread Adam Moffett
That's a good one. As the old saying goes, the bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten

Re: [AFMUG] Alpha wireless omni

2015-08-03 Thread Josh Luthman
Parented by Latvian and Canadian companies... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Aug 3, 2015 6:49 PM, Daniel White afmu...@gmail.com wrote: Actually I have been… when I worked at SAF I worked at their subsidiary SAF North America

Re: [AFMUG] Competitor parts quality.

2015-08-03 Thread Ken Hohhof
You could also sell two versions. Haha, call one carrier class. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 7:12 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Competitor parts quality. Could publish the specifications and then also tell customers looking at other products (via the same

Re: [AFMUG] Competitor parts quality.

2015-08-03 Thread TJ Trout
I prefer the expensive ones. but on the other hand we aren't buying much packet flux now that we have scaled back canopy and your not producing a switch product On Aug 3, 2015 5:00 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: I would include the temperature and current specs prominently in your

Re: [AFMUG] Competitor parts quality.

2015-08-03 Thread Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T)
You have a great name, they do not. I would buy off you because it is you and I’m sure most people would also. Do what you have to do to eat and not worry about competition. Price it what it needs to be. :-) From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Forrest Christian

[AFMUG] Competitor parts quality.

2015-08-03 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
This is somewhat of a vent/rant, but also I will also take suggestions on how to handle this issue. Since I've been shipping gigabit injector products, I've struggled with the pricing of the magnetics which are used to inject the power on the cat5 cable. After a lot of time searching, I ended

Re: [AFMUG] Competitor parts quality.

2015-08-03 Thread Mike Hammett
Could publish the specifications and then also tell customers looking at other products (via the same marketing piece) to compare these specifications to the competition... if they'll release that information. Dare the competition to release their worse specifications. - Mike Hammett

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up the tower vs. ethernet

2015-08-03 Thread Lewis Bergman
Yes On Mon, Aug 3, 2015, 10:51 AM Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: Before we sold You sold? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb

Re: [AFMUG] what tier provider is Hurricane?

2015-08-03 Thread Jon Auer
On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 7:51 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: The tier system is utterly meaningless anymore. +1 I mean, I'm a Tier 2 network by the wikipedia definition(1) so at that point you know it's useless :) At one point it may have made sense to be a Tier 3 and only buy from

Re: [AFMUG] SM450d

2015-08-03 Thread Carl Peterson
Tried today. Tessco said it would be a few weeks... On Aug 3, 2015, at 3:53 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Anyone bought one?

Re: [AFMUG] Alpha wireless omni

2015-08-03 Thread Jaime Solorza
Good luck in your new venture. On Aug 3, 2015 1:33 PM, Daniel White afmu...@gmail.com wrote: Crossover Distribution. I start August 10th. Thank you, Daniel White afmu...@gmail.com Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite Social: LinkedIn

Re: [AFMUG] Competitor parts quality.

2015-08-03 Thread George Skorup
I wouldn't want to see extended temperature range components dismissed from your products. It's nice not to have to put HVAC in every enclosure. That's worth something to me. Your products are awesome because they're simple, effective and reliable. Ken always reminds me of the eyePhone

Re: [AFMUG] Competitor parts quality.

2015-08-03 Thread Ken Hohhof
I would include the temperature and current specs prominently in your marketing literature / spec sheets. Let the other guys lack of such specs speak for itself. From: Forrest Christian (List Account) Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 6:37 PM To: af Subject: [AFMUG] Competitor parts quality.

Re: [AFMUG] Competitor parts quality.

2015-08-03 Thread Erich Kaiser
I 100% agree on what Daniel is saying... Erich Kaiser North Central Tower er...@northcentraltower.com Office: 630-621-4804 Cell: 630-777-9291 On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 7:07 PM, Daniel White afmu...@gmail.com wrote: Forrest, Friendly advice – but look how the big boys do it. They sell on

Re: [AFMUG] mikrotik home router question

2015-08-03 Thread Bill Prince
If it's somehow combined with the reset button, then it might actually work. The reset button only resets when you power up (it has to be pressed during the power on sequence to actually reset). So if you push it after it's operational, it might really do WPS. Which brings up the question

Re: [AFMUG] Competitor parts quality.

2015-08-03 Thread Chuck McCown
I use the exact same magnetics as you do, I was faced with the same issues. And costs. But I don’t want anyone having data errors due to core saturation or temperature issues. I guarantee my products as do you. But neither of us could sleep if we used those crap magnetics. If people buy

Re: [AFMUG] what radio is this?

2015-08-03 Thread Carl Peterson
Clearly Siklu. I like how one is grounded but the other isn't. On Aug 3, 2015, at 12:26 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: If it's SF, I'm going to assume Siklu. They have a lot of gear in the air over there. Their higher models also have an array of ports. - Mike

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up the tower vs. ethernet

2015-08-03 Thread Jon Langeler
It's a toss up but typically has solved all the issues of why you might want to bring it up half way or to the top... Sent from my iPhone On Aug 3, 2015, at 10:52 AM, Paul McCall pa...@pdmnet.net wrote: We are seeking feedback from people that are using fiber up the tower instead of Cat5.

Re: [AFMUG] OT. Great Tacos in Vegas

2015-08-03 Thread Chuck McCown
Taquiera Authentica is pretty good too. (Not sure I spelled it properly) From: Gino Villarini Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 2:03 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT. Great Tacos in Vegas that looks awsome! and yummy!!! when is salt lake try Taco Toro o Tacos Don Rafa! On Mon, Aug 3,

Re: [AFMUG] Does this mean we can order these radios?

2015-08-03 Thread Cameron Crum
Athena 60Ghz radios are pretty good. We used them for a bank project once. They come with their own optics for aligning. Pretty slick bolt on scopes. Cameron On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 11:43 AM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote: Aligning 60GHz requires patience. Mounting must be

Re: [AFMUG] mikrotik home router question

2015-08-03 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
well none of these replies answered my customer's question but thats ok :) it just reaffirms what i suspected, that it is not available - Original Message - From: Jason McKemie To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 11:24 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mikrotik home router

Re: [AFMUG] Netgear routers

2015-08-03 Thread Glen Waldrop
Not sure about the most recent one. I can see it on a scan, but I haven't found it connected to my system. I need to go by with a CPE and narrow it down. The previous two times it was a customer's router. As soon as I unplugged it the problem went away. Brought it back to my office to see what

[AFMUG] ProxyHam author goes dark

2015-08-03 Thread Rory Conaway
http://www.wired.com/2015/07/online-anonymity-project-proxyham-mysteriously-vanishes/ This makes no sense. You can duplicate this with 3 radios from Ubiquiti with their web gui. How does this possibly fall under the category of a gag order? Rory Conaway * Triad Wireless * CEO 4226 S. 37th

Re: [AFMUG] what radio is this?

2015-08-03 Thread Rick Harnish
It is most likely MonkeyBrains.net if they are Siklu gear. http://www.businessinsider.com/monkeybrains-is-bringing-gigabit-wireless-to-san-francisco-2014-12 Respectfully, Rick Harnish Broadband Consultant Industry Analyst 260-307-4000 cell Skype: rick.harnish.​ Twitter: @rharnish From: Af

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up the tower vs. ethernet

2015-08-03 Thread Adam Moffett
My last employer had some sites with a CMM4 at the top. Those worked great. Zero problems. You can either replace the included switch with a similar model that has an SFP slot, or add an industrial media converter. There's a resettable accessory power port that you can use for the media

Re: [AFMUG] what radio is this?

2015-08-03 Thread Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr.
That is definitely a Siklu. Gilbert On 8/3/2015 9:22 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: San Francisco. *From:* Rory Conaway mailto:r...@triadwireless.net *Sent:* Monday, August 03, 2015 10:17 AM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] what radio is this?

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up the tower vs. ethernet

2015-08-03 Thread David
Same here except we started with Mikrotik at the top to convert the fiber. I soon switched them out since talking to Lewis and no worries at all. On 08/03/2015 10:47 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote: Before we sold we went to a model with a pair of 14awg for power and four fibers in one armored

Re: [AFMUG] what radio is this?

2015-08-03 Thread Rory Conaway
That might make sense. It’s an ISP up there. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, August 3, 2015 9:26 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what radio is this? If it's SF, I'm going to assume Siklu. They have a lot of gear in the air over

Re: [AFMUG] mikrotik home router question

2015-08-03 Thread Ken Hohhof
Mikrotik data sheet on the hAP seems to say it has WPS feature, but it looks to be combined with the reset button. Maybe depending on how long you push it? What could go wrong with that? Does the printer not offer a way to enter the WiFi password, if not directly on the printer, maybe first

Re: [AFMUG] Does this mean we can order these radios?

2015-08-03 Thread Mike Hammett
If you look at their official distributors, they aren't expecting them until October. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: Rory Conaway

[AFMUG] Sitemonitor on 48V

2015-08-03 Thread Paul McCall
Can Sitemonitor work reliably on 48v instead of 24v? we are putting in some 48 volt relays and need the S.M. to initiate opening the relay. The relay socket maker IDEC said that when using 48v relay, it needs a 48v trigger (my word for it). Paul McCall, Pres. PDMNet / Florida Broadband 658

Re: [AFMUG] Alpha wireless omni

2015-08-03 Thread Daniel White
I can be too :-) Talk to me next week. My new gig distributes Alpha Wireless antennas as well. Thank you, Daniel White mailto:afmu...@gmail.com afmu...@gmail.com Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite Social: http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84 LinkedIn:

Re: [AFMUG] Does this mean we can order these radios?

2015-08-03 Thread Rory Conaway
I just saw that last night. Bummer. Needed a couple of them. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, August 3, 2015 4:53 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Does this mean we can order these radios? If you look at their official distributors,

Re: [AFMUG] Off topic - What box is that? [Was: Alpha wireless omni]

2015-08-03 Thread Christopher Gray
Rory, what box do you have on the side of the house? -Chris On Sat, Aug 1, 2015 at 12:33 PM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net wrote: Darn, wish I knew that before we put this one up. I really should have put up at least 3 sectors to handle the 5 people attached to it. Silly me. Rory

Re: [AFMUG] Does this mean we can order these radios?

2015-08-03 Thread Mike Hammett
*nods* I have a project that's less than a km for. It's not dedicated Internet, so it wouldn't support the cost of AF24, Siklu, etc. Great product\situation fit... but not available. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange

Re: [AFMUG] Alpha wireless omni

2015-08-03 Thread Matt
I have one of the KP's on a 3.6 450 AP at 160 feet. One SM of six is at 5.4 miles with a -77 and getting 4X. That as far as I'm willing to push it. Probably the one and only we'll ever do now that we have Lite APs. And its too bad there was not a lite 450i AP so we could deploy them at rural

Re: [AFMUG] Off topic - What box is that? [Was: Alpha wireless omni]

2015-08-03 Thread Rory Conaway
I’ll check when I get to the office. It’s similar to the L-Com ones with the 110v outlets in the bottom. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Gray Sent: Monday, August 3, 2015 6:38 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Off topic - What box is that? [Was:

Re: [AFMUG] SM450d

2015-08-03 Thread Brian Sullivan
How much do they cost? On 8/3/2015 2:53 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: Anyone bought one?

Re: [AFMUG] OT. Great Tacos in Vegas

2015-08-03 Thread Gino Villarini
that looks awsome! and yummy!!! when is salt lake try Taco Toro o Tacos Don Rafa! On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 3:53 PM, Jay Weekley par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: Is all that for one person? Jaime Solorza wrote: Way off LV blvd. Tropicana and Eastern. Tijuana Tacos. We recommend them

Re: [AFMUG] OT. Great Tacos in Vegas

2015-08-03 Thread Colin Stanners
Nice, I'll be in Las Vegas for DEFCON and related events and will try to pass by. On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 2:46 PM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote: Way off LV blvd. Tropicana and Eastern. Tijuana Tacos. We recommend them

Re: [AFMUG] OT. Great Tacos in Vegas

2015-08-03 Thread Jay Weekley
Is all that for one person? Jaime Solorza wrote: Way off LV blvd. Tropicana and Eastern. Tijuana Tacos. We recommend them

Re: [AFMUG] SM450d

2015-08-03 Thread Gino Villarini
My mom thought me not to answer a question with another question... On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 3:57 PM, Brian Sullivan installe...@foxvalley.net wrote: How much do they cost? On 8/3/2015 2:53 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: Anyone bought one?