Re: [AFMUG] Hotspot solutions?

2015-09-09 Thread Josh Luthman
Free for the user, charge the store to manage it. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sep 9, 2015 11:15 AM, "Lewis Bergman" wrote: > Doesn't everyone just assume wifi is free no matter where they go now? > > On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 10:

Re: [AFMUG] Tower collocation question

2015-09-09 Thread Jeremy
Ahh, I see. I didn't understand. I thought you were talking antenna size. On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 9:10 AM, Joseph Marsh wrote: > We are going up at 100 ft its a relay tower for Alabama public tv > -- > From: Lewis Bergman > Sent: ‎9/‎9/‎2015 10:08 AM > > To: af@afmu

Re: [AFMUG] Hotspot solutions?

2015-09-09 Thread Lewis Bergman
Doesn't everyone just assume wifi is free no matter where they go now? On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 10:10 AM, Super WISP wrote: > Hey John, > > > > This product does not have billing features, but it’s a way that you could > make extra revenue for your WISP by selling to café’s, restaurants, etc… > If

Re: [AFMUG] Hotspot solutions?

2015-09-09 Thread Super WISP
Hey John, This product does not have billing features, but it’s a way that you could make extra revenue for your WISP by selling to café’s, restaurants, etc… If they are currently paying for your internet, you could add another $10/month to offer them marketing capabilities by sending out coup

Re: [AFMUG] Tower collocation question

2015-09-09 Thread Joseph Marsh
We are going up at 100 ft its a relay tower for Alabama public tv -Original Message- From: "Lewis Bergman" Sent: ‎9/‎9/‎2015 10:08 AM To: "af@afmug.com" Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower collocation question Depends. Maybe if he needs to be at 500 feet it isn't worth $1k. On Wed, Sep 9, 201

Re: [AFMUG] Tower collocation question

2015-09-09 Thread Josh Luthman
On a 20 foot tower yes. A 200 probably not. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sep 9, 2015 11:05 AM, "Jeremy" wrote: > Well that seems like a deal not even worth questioning isn't it? Am I > missing something here? > > On Wed, Sep

Re: [AFMUG] Tower collocation question

2015-09-09 Thread Joseph Marsh
Towercomm is the same way I done same hight as the tv tower its equals the same I thought it was a good deal but wanted another persons opinion -Original Message- From: "Jeremy" Sent: ‎9/‎9/‎2015 10:05 AM To: "af@afmug.com" Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower collocation question Well that s

Re: [AFMUG] Tower collocation question

2015-09-09 Thread Lewis Bergman
Depends. Maybe if he needs to be at 500 feet it isn't worth $1k. On Wed, Sep 9, 2015, 10:05 AM Jeremy wrote: > Well that seems like a deal not even worth questioning isn't it? Am I > missing something here? > > On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 9:01 AM, Lewis Bergman > wrote: > >> Per foot of height is w

Re: [AFMUG] Tower collocation question

2015-09-09 Thread Jeremy
Well that seems like a deal not even worth questioning isn't it? Am I missing something here? On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 9:01 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote: > Per foot of height is what I was presuming he meant. > > On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Joseph Marsh > wrote: > >> 2.50 a foot per antenna per

Re: [AFMUG] Tower collocation question

2015-09-09 Thread Lewis Bergman
Per foot of height is what I was presuming he meant. On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Joseph Marsh wrote: > 2.50 a foot per antenna per month > -- > From: Jeremy > Sent: ‎9/‎9/‎2015 9:50 AM > > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower collocation question > > $

Re: [AFMUG] Tower collocation question

2015-09-09 Thread Joseph Marsh
2.50 a foot per antenna per month -Original Message- From: "Jeremy" Sent: ‎9/‎9/‎2015 9:50 AM To: "af@afmug.com" Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower collocation question $2.00 a foot? Is this per day? Crown Castle is $100 per foot of dish and $75 per sector, per month. On Wed, Sep 9, 201

Re: [AFMUG] GIGE-POE-APC Hot?

2015-09-09 Thread Jeremy
Yeah, the LEDs will run at such a low voltage that they still run after a fuse blows on my system. Apparently the DC distribution panel still lets a small amount of power through aven after the fuses are blown. Hopefully that doesn't affect the protection level, but I found it odd. On Wed, Sep 9

Re: [AFMUG] Tower collocation question

2015-09-09 Thread Jeremy
$2.00 a foot? Is this per day? Crown Castle is $100 per foot of dish and $75 per sector, per month. On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 7:55 AM, Joseph Marsh wrote: > It's in a rural backwoods area but fiber is right beside it and we can > feed from our existing network > -- >

Re: [AFMUG] Hotspot solutions?

2015-09-09 Thread Dennis Burgess
John, Check out HS Network Manager. Great product, here are a few examples of the splash page – example1, example2

[AFMUG] Hotspot solutions?

2015-09-09 Thread John Babineaux
I’m looking for a Hotspot payment gateway that a Mikrotik can auth with. I have the Mikrotik Usermanager and I want something that I don’t have to manage directly. We have very few users buying packages right now in the one test spot. I’m looking for something low cost and reliable. Any r

Re: [AFMUG] GIGE-POE-APC Hot?

2015-09-09 Thread Chuck McCown
There is heat given off at all voltages. And that particular unit might have a fault in the resistor. Solder bridge or wrong resistor. Have not seen that before but could happen. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2015 8:38 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GIGE-POE-

Re: [AFMUG] OT BYU vs Nebraska

2015-09-09 Thread Chuck McCown
Have to admit, I would have rather had Taysom Hill healthy for the rest of the season. As far as Tanner Magnum goes, who knew! Anxiously waiting the next game to see if he can keep it up. I feel for you and your winning streak. Seems like robbery to lose it on a play like that. From: Aa

Re: [AFMUG] GIGE-POE-APC Hot?

2015-09-09 Thread Josh Luthman
Isn't AF24 only 48v? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 10:33 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: > OK, there are some half watt resistors in that area. When running at 55 > volts limiting current for the LEDs they do get

Re: [AFMUG] GIGE-POE-APC Hot?

2015-09-09 Thread Ken Hohhof
Oops. I just looked at Chuck’s website and it does have LEDs. Probably mine have LEDs too and I just forgot. I was probably confusing it with the non POE model. I remember back in the 70’s using slide-base switchboard lamps. Color caps on the 48V versions had to be glass because plastic cap

Re: [AFMUG] GIGE-POE-APC Hot?

2015-09-09 Thread Nate Burke
I think the LED might run Hot, I think I felt what you were talking about, but I just thought maybe my finger was shorting out the contacts and that's what I was feeling. On 9/9/2015 9:16 AM, Josh Baird wrote: Yeah, it seems to be just the area around the LED. The connector is not very hot at

Re: [AFMUG] GIGE-POE-APC Hot?

2015-09-09 Thread Chuck McCown
OK, there are some half watt resistors in that area. When running at 55 volts limiting current for the LEDs they do get hot. Their temp depends on system voltage. I had hard to make the LEDs usable for a range of 6-60 volts without some tradeoff. As long as the large chip isn’t getting hot

Re: [AFMUG] GIGE-POE-APC Hot?

2015-09-09 Thread Ken Hohhof
What LEDs? On a related note, I finally got some ferrules and a crimper and am trying that out. I guess a loose compression connection could cause heating. I would think more likely a bad connection on the PCB, or something is shorted. The current is what, something like 1 amp or less? Fr

Re: [AFMUG] GIGE-POE-APC Hot?

2015-09-09 Thread Josh Baird
Yeah, it seems to be just the area around the LED. The connector is not very hot at all. On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 9:54 AM, Nate Burke wrote: > Or is it the area right by the LED's? > > On 9/9/2015 8:52 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > > The connector is hot? That can’t be right. > > *From:* Josh Baird >

Re: [AFMUG] Tower collocation question

2015-09-09 Thread Joseph Marsh
It's in a rural backwoods area but fiber is right beside it and we can feed from our existing network -Original Message- From: "Lewis Bergman" Sent: ‎9/‎9/‎2015 8:50 AM To: "af@afmug.com" Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower collocation question Those are 1 foot each right? That doesn't sound

Re: [AFMUG] GIGE-POE-APC Hot?

2015-09-09 Thread Nate Burke
Or is it the area right by the LED's? On 9/9/2015 8:52 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: The connector is hot? That can’t be right. *From:* Josh Baird *Sent:* Wednesday, September 09, 2015 8:43 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] GIGE-POE-APC Hot? We

Re: [AFMUG] GIGE-POE-APC Hot?

2015-09-09 Thread Ken Hohhof
The connector is hot? That can’t be right. From: Josh Baird Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2015 8:43 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] GIGE-POE-APC Hot? We just installed our first GIGE-POE-APC which is powering an AF24, and noticed that it gets VERY hot. So hot that it almost instantly b

Re: [AFMUG] Tower collocation question

2015-09-09 Thread Lewis Bergman
Those are 1 foot each right? That doesn't sound out of line if it isn't completely in the middle of nowhere. If it is, maybe $2 a foot. On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 8:44 AM, Joseph Marsh wrote: > 2-force 110 dishes > -- > From: Lewis Bergman > Sent: ‎9/‎9/‎2015 8:40 AM > T

Re: [AFMUG] Tower collocation question

2015-09-09 Thread Joseph Marsh
2-force 110 dishes -Original Message- From: "Lewis Bergman" Sent: ‎9/‎9/‎2015 8:40 AM To: "af@afmug.com" Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower collocation question Depends on what you are putting up there. Is that per antenna, line, both? what sizes? anything else going up there? On Wed, Sep 9

[AFMUG] GIGE-POE-APC Hot?

2015-09-09 Thread Josh Baird
We just installed our first GIGE-POE-APC which is powering an AF24, and noticed that it gets VERY hot. So hot that it almost instantly burns your finger when you touch the green molding. For folks that have these installed, is this normal? It's ran fine for a few days, but this morning we we not

Re: [AFMUG] Tower collocation question

2015-09-09 Thread Lewis Bergman
Depends on what you are putting up there. Is that per antenna, line, both? what sizes? anything else going up there? On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 8:35 AM, Joseph Marsh wrote: > We are wanting to co locate on a tower which is owned by a tv station is > 2.50 a foot a bad price or is it too high? >

[AFMUG] Tower collocation question

2015-09-09 Thread Joseph Marsh
We are wanting to co locate on a tower which is owned by a tv station is 2.50 a foot a bad price or is it too high?

Re: [AFMUG] Some OSPF Questions...

2015-09-09 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 9/8/15 6:27 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: 32 megs? Wow... A Cisco 2501 had half that with a 20MHz processor. There was even a model with an ISDN interface to back up your two sync serial interfaces. Two T1's baby, all the speed you could need in the 90's. ~Seth

Re: [AFMUG] Some OSPF Questions...

2015-09-09 Thread Shayne Lebrun
Doesn’t MPLS prefer everything to be in 0.0.0.0 when using OSPF? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul Stewart Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2015 9:22 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Some OSPF Questions... Yeah, true enough … there was a very large cable provider i

Re: [AFMUG] Some OSPF Questions...

2015-09-09 Thread Paul Stewart
Absolutely .. hence my polite suggestion to them at the time :) They have since been acquired and slowly being merged into a competitors network that runs a much better designed network globally. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Wednesday, September

[AFMUG] ARIN\NANOG

2015-09-09 Thread Mike Hammett
Who else is going to ARIN\NANOG in Montreal next month? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com

Re: [AFMUG] Some OSPF Questions...

2015-09-09 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
First of all... "just because a large provider is doing s" it does not make it correct or best practice. and don't assume that just because they are a 'large network' they are setup following best practices... Ideally, you want to keep your Area 0 manageable... it is a relative term... think

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