Re: [AFMUG] fascination with the word modem

2015-11-18 Thread Ken Hohhof
Comcast and AT&T call them "gateways". -Original Message- From: Nate Burke Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 11:53 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] fascination with the word modem Just call the POE Box the Modem and everyone will be happy. Maybe make up a label and put it on

Re: [AFMUG] fascination with the word modem

2015-11-18 Thread Bill Prince
I tell them that the modem is up on the roof (true most of the time). Then we start talking about their "rooter". bp On 11/18/2015 9:44 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: What is this fascination people have with "modem"? They think they have a modem, need a modem, reboot their modem, look at the lights o

Re: [AFMUG] fascination with the word modem

2015-11-18 Thread Nate Burke
Just call the POE Box the Modem and everyone will be happy. Maybe make up a label and put it on the POE. "Yes, Reboot your 'Modem' It's labeled 'Modem'. You don't need to buy a modem, you already have a 'Modem'" I think the other thing is both cable and DSL are selling the all in 1 boxes no

[AFMUG] fascination with the word modem

2015-11-18 Thread Ken Hohhof
What is this fascination people have with "modem"? They think they have a modem, need a modem, reboot their modem, look at the lights on their modem. Modem, modem, modem. I'd say the term comes up in 50% of all the calls we get. I even had a customer call today because they were retiring the

Re: [AFMUG] Phone System

2015-11-18 Thread Ken Hohhof
I remember buying a SACD player. What a flop. Not that it lost out to DVD-Audio, which also flopped. The winner? MP3. From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 10:54 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Phone System Bxr not bm On Nov 18, 2015 9:26 PM, "Jaime Solorza" wro

Re: [AFMUG] Phone System

2015-11-18 Thread Jaime Solorza
Bxr not bm On Nov 18, 2015 9:26 PM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: > From your mouth to God's ears. I have an SWR for small gigs... A Fender > BMX with two cabinets (2 10s and 1 15 inch with horn) for larger venues...a > Fender 30 with 10 in for rehearsals and a Peavey with 10 inch in bedroom > for pra

Re: [AFMUG] CAT5e or CAT6 shielded outdoor patch cable

2015-11-18 Thread Eric Muehleisen
Negative. We took them out a few months back when fighting the same issue. We thought they might have been the cause. Obviously, it wasn't. On a side note, I upgraded the link to beta 3.2rc2 immediately following another link-flap. After the upgrade, the slave radio linked at gigabit and the data

Re: [AFMUG] Phone System

2015-11-18 Thread Jaime Solorza
>From your mouth to God's ears. I have an SWR for small gigs... A Fender BMX with two cabinets (2 10s and 1 15 inch with horn) for larger venues...a Fender 30 with 10 in for rehearsals and a Peavey with 10 inch in bedroom for practice. Working on harmonic methods I picked up from Talking Bass an

Re: [AFMUG] Phone System

2015-11-18 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
What I have learned over the years is that human senses (sight , sound, smell, taste) are very unique to each individual. I have always been fascinated by folks who have studied and understand Musical notes, I am tone deaf and then I also know that there are some very popular ring

Re: [AFMUG] Phone System

2015-11-18 Thread Daniel White
After years of reading Jaime’s posts… its clear he is an Audiophile. I bet he only plays with tube amps as well. Digital just doesn’t have the warm sound of analog… http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/feb10/articles/analoguewarmth.htm Thank you, Daniel White a

Re: [AFMUG] Phone System

2015-11-18 Thread Ken Hohhof
One thing I have found is everyone tells you G.729 sounds just as good as G.711, but I don’t think that’s true. Customers transitioning from POTS will often complain about the voice quality with G.729, but G.711 will probably sound better than their POTS ever sounded. And as Faisal notes, then

Re: [AFMUG] Phone System

2015-11-18 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Voip can have degraded voice quality or it can have a much better voice quality... (HD voice). Things have come a long way, a number of factors go into play here. Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)6

Re: [AFMUG] CAT5e or CAT6 shielded outdoor patch cable

2015-11-18 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
Just curious, are there surge supressors anywhere in the circuit? On Nov 18, 2015 8:51 AM, "Eric Muehleisen" wrote: > We have a situation where an AirFiber is struggling to maintain a > gigabit ethernet connection. It's right next to a FM antenna. We've > replaced the ~75ft. patch cable with beld

Re: [AFMUG] Another PacketFlux Question. Site Montor II

2015-11-18 Thread Brandon Yuchasz
Thanks that worked. Best regards, Brandon Yuchasz GogebicRange.net www.gogebicrange.net From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 7:05 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Another PacketFlux Qu

Re: [AFMUG] Another PacketFlux Question. Site Montor II

2015-11-18 Thread George Skorup
Set the disconnected module's serial number to zero and rescan the expansion bus or reboot the base. On 11/18/2015 7:01 PM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote: Figured out the GPS thanks. Now my question is how do I remove a not used SyncInjector from the expansion unit list in a Site Monitor II? It show

Re: [AFMUG] Phone System

2015-11-18 Thread Jaime Solorza
Probably. But I have a nice assistant and you don't SAS...too easy On Nov 18, 2015 6:00 PM, "Mike Hammett" wrote: > Most voice traffic in the world is VoIP or a variant of VoIP. You just > have bad experiences with shit systems. > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutio

[AFMUG] Another PacketFlux Question. Site Montor II

2015-11-18 Thread Brandon Yuchasz
Figured out the GPS thanks. Now my question is how do I remove a not used SyncInjector from the expansion unit list in a Site Monitor II? It shows disconnected but I don't plan to ever plug it in again its at a different site. The new SyncInjector is showing up fine right under it in the lis

Re: [AFMUG] Phone System

2015-11-18 Thread Mike Hammett
Most voice traffic in the world is VoIP or a variant of VoIP. You just have bad experiences with shit systems. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: "Jaime Sol

Re: [AFMUG] Phone System

2015-11-18 Thread Jaime Solorza
Voice quality for oneit echos or audio quality is crappy. We replaced my mums TWC with fixed cellular and an ATT landline. Better all around. When I was at district with had hybrid system. The pots one had almost zero issues. The main office went to Cisco and after a few months went back to

Re: [AFMUG] Phone System

2015-11-18 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
I though you were going to say I am old school, I don't answer the phone, I let my assistant answer it ! LOL !.. What attribute do you associate with VOIP that yo don't like ? Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 23

Re: [AFMUG] Phone System

2015-11-18 Thread Jaime Solorza
Actually I am old school...I still don't like VoIP systems... Especially TWC version On Nov 18, 2015 5:04 PM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: > Is that the type of phone you are using? > On Nov 18, 2015 3:47 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" < > thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Their UTM firewalls are out

Re: [AFMUG] Phone System

2015-11-18 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
The only value that such appliances offer, is perception and illusion ..which can be of value to certain types of folks and deployment. They spend a lot of time and money trying to create the warm fuzzy that they are doing something special with that appliance.. be it a phone system or fir

[AFMUG] OT. Cotto vs Canelo

2015-11-18 Thread Jaime Solorza
So Gino...who will take this one?

[AFMUG] mikrotik ptr record for internal space

2015-11-18 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
we currently have out routing taking place on 172.31.x.x space. Is there a way to make the mikrotiks just respond with a name, if not is there an easy way to have the mikrotik update its ptr to a local bind server if we move to using our own DNS servers? I assume if there is no way to get the ttl e

Re: [AFMUG] Phone System

2015-11-18 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Their UTM firewalls are outstanding, support impeccable, RMA process superb. Firmware updates are a PITA because of the random changes, like taking out DHCP relay from the GUI requiring CLI. Their sizing calculator is pretty spot on. They do a decent trade in for competitor replacement, just send a

Re: [AFMUG] OT Square IPO

2015-11-18 Thread Jaime Solorza
Too easy Ken On Nov 18, 2015 3:43 PM, "Ken Hohhof" wrote: > I guess size does matter. > > *From:* Jaime Solorza > *Sent:* Wednesday, November 18, 2015 4:41 PM > *To:* Animal Farm > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Square IPO > > > A visit from Sancho...years ago we had a tower climber who got home fro

Re: [AFMUG] CAT5e or CAT6 shielded outdoor patch cable

2015-11-18 Thread Sean Heskett
armored liquidtight conduit is probably what you will need to use. that's the only thing that has solved these issues for us on FM towers. On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 7:51 AM, Eric Muehleisen wrote: > We have a situation where an AirFiber is struggling to maintain a > gigabit ethernet connection.

Re: [AFMUG] OT Square IPO

2015-11-18 Thread Ken Hohhof
I guess size does matter. From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 4:41 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Square IPO A visit from Sancho...years ago we had a tower climber who got home from a two week stint and found some cowboy boots in his closet size 11...he wore size

Re: [AFMUG] OT Square IPO

2015-11-18 Thread Jaime Solorza
Ha ha...you should write for shows. You my friend have a gift On Nov 18, 2015 3:41 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" wrote: > Oh, shes a good woman, thats for sure, strong stomach to live with me, she > will leave me one day and make some other man a wonderful wife. Shes just > not the brightest crayo

Re: [AFMUG] OT Square IPO

2015-11-18 Thread Jaime Solorza
A visit from Sancho...years ago we had a tower climber who got home from a two week stint and found some cowboy boots in his closet size 11...he wore size 8.yep.. He ended up getting divorced and I lost a good employee. He was devastated and left El Paso.. Went back to Laredo On Nov 18, 20

Re: [AFMUG] Phone System

2015-11-18 Thread Paul Stewart
Interesting …. Anyone use Fortinet gear for anything else? They keep hitting my radar for certain applications but have no real hands on with it…. They seem to make a lot of options… From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015

Re: [AFMUG] OT Square IPO

2015-11-18 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Oh, shes a good woman, thats for sure, strong stomach to live with me, she will leave me one day and make some other man a wonderful wife. Shes just not the brightest crayon in the box, hence the longevity of our relationship On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 4:32 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > I seem to rememb

Re: [AFMUG] Phone System

2015-11-18 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
another cool thing we found out in a disaster is the fortinet phones (which I believe are just branded 3coms) can pretty easily be configures to take your sip trunk if your pbx has failed. A good example of this being handy is a fire, the customer can take the fortivoice phone wherever they have in

Re: [AFMUG] SFP data screwed up on ROS 3.32.3 ?

2015-11-18 Thread Matt
Upgrade will fix it I think. I think only 6.32.3 does this. 6.33 seems fine. On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 1:35 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: > I was wondering that exact thing. I'll find out tonight after a downgrade. > > > On 11/18/2015 2:33 PM, George Skorup wrote: > > What are the Tx and Rx power n

Re: [AFMUG] Phone System

2015-11-18 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
we do fortinet only You can do it without a problem its a good system as long as you realize is a voip pbx in a box, its not as configurable as some, but thats the beauty, you have a clear line of can do and cannot do Its designed to be an end user system as in you sell it to a customer and they ma

Re: [AFMUG] OT Square IPO

2015-11-18 Thread Ken Hohhof
I seem to remember him saying something nice about her sammich making abilities? Actually, I’ve had customers complain what a witch their wife is, and then you go to the house and find out she’s very nice. No doubt Steve tells his wife terrible things about all of us too. Just a scheme to make

Re: [AFMUG] is the nanobeam m5 400 and PBE-M5-500ac mounting hardware the same?

2015-11-18 Thread Mathew Howard
As far as I can remember, it is the same. On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 4:03 PM, Tim Reichhart < timreichh...@hometowncable.net> wrote: > Guys > I just wanted to know if the nanobeam m5 400 and PBE-M5-500ac mounting > hardware the same? > > Tim > > > > > > >

[AFMUG] is the nanobeam m5 400 and PBE-M5-500ac mounting hardware the same?

2015-11-18 Thread Tim Reichhart
Guys I just wanted to know if the nanobeam m5 400 and PBE-M5-500ac mounting hardware the same? Tim

Re: [AFMUG] Installer Issue With Helpers

2015-11-18 Thread Jaime Solorza
Amen On Nov 18, 2015 2:59 PM, "Mathew Howard" wrote: > Just be happy he never installed anything at your house :P > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 3:55 PM, Jaime Solorza > wrote: > >> I just puked ! Lol >> On Nov 18, 2015 2:39 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" < >> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: >>

Re: [AFMUG] Installer Issue With Helpers

2015-11-18 Thread Craig House
That is funny I must say - Original Message - From: "Mathew Howard" To: "af" Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 3:59:44 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Installer Issue With Helpers Just be happy he never installed anything at your house :P On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 3:55 PM, Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] OT Square IPO

2015-11-18 Thread Mathew Howard
I think that was one of his nicer comments about her... :P On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 3:55 PM, Ty Featherling wrote: > Clearly she doesn't. ;) > > -Ty > > > > -Ty > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 3:53 PM, Jaime Solorza > wrote: > >> Yikes...did you call your wife dumb? Man you have more balls than I d

Re: [AFMUG] BitTorrent is not piracy

2015-11-18 Thread Mathew Howard
I agree, I really don't see why a lot of wisps still see bittorrent as a huge problem. I don't see that's it really has any worse of an affect our network than any other sort of traffic these days. The occasional DMCA notice is a bit of a nuisance, but I've noticed we get far less of those since we

Re: [AFMUG] OT Square IPO

2015-11-18 Thread Cameron Crum
Fees aren't really that bad. 2.75% for swipes or 3% for card not present last I looked. On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 3:30 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > the service is solid, the old lady uses it at the salon without any issue, > shes tech dumb and did the whole thing

Re: [AFMUG] Installer Issue With Helpers

2015-11-18 Thread Mathew Howard
Just be happy he never installed anything at your house :P On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 3:55 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > I just puked ! Lol > On Nov 18, 2015 2:39 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" < > thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> when i was the primary installer, and this would happen, I just

Re: [AFMUG] OT Square IPO

2015-11-18 Thread Ty Featherling
Clearly she doesn't. ;) -Ty -Ty On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 3:53 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > Yikes...did you call your wife dumb? Man you have more balls than I do. > Hopefully she doesn't read these posts. >

Re: [AFMUG] Installer Issue With Helpers

2015-11-18 Thread Jaime Solorza
I just puked ! Lol On Nov 18, 2015 2:39 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" wrote: > when i was the primary installer, and this would happen, I just took off > my pants and asked if they had any mayonnaise. > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 1:57 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > >> Could be worse. If they watch Co

Re: [AFMUG] OT Square IPO

2015-11-18 Thread Jaime Solorza
Yikes...did you call your wife dumb? Man you have more balls than I do. Hopefully she doesn't read these posts.

Re: [AFMUG] CAT5e or CAT6 shielded outdoor patch cable

2015-11-18 Thread Work
They found a issue with flow control that was giving some a hard time with getting  gigabit might try 3.2RC2 and see if that helps anyany — Sent from Mailbox On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 1:12 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > Make it optical except for the last 2' of cable. > Small ip67 rated box, some gl

Re: [AFMUG] Installer Issue With Helpers

2015-11-18 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
when i was the primary installer, and this would happen, I just took off my pants and asked if they had any mayonnaise. On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 1:57 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > Could be worse. If they watch Columbo reruns, it would be “Oh, sir, just > one more thing ...” > > > *From:* Mathew Howard

Re: [AFMUG] OT Square IPO

2015-11-18 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
the service is solid, the old lady uses it at the salon without any issue, shes tech dumb and did the whole thing herself start to finish, shes probably getting raped on fees somehow, but i dont know about that On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 4:17 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > Oh yes I have seen them..thx

Re: [AFMUG] BitTorrent is not piracy

2015-11-18 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
torrent traffic has become a non issue now that there is equipment that actually handles the pps load, an old avarion AP would crumble at just a few thousand pps, and dlink routers croaked at 200, its just bandwidth now. I also think the torrent architecture has moved to a more efficient method, p2

Re: [AFMUG] Installer Issue With Helpers

2015-11-18 Thread Ken Hohhof
Could be worse. If they watch Columbo reruns, it would be “Oh, sir, just one more thing ...” From: Mathew Howard Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 1:50 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Installer Issue With Helpers Sorry! I didn't mean to...

Re: [AFMUG] Pull line

2015-11-18 Thread George Skorup
I know, but we got the Omni Block on sale. :) I also like the Petzl Tandem for a trolley tag. Not ball bearing, but it's cheap and smooth enough for that purpose. On 11/18/2015 8:22 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: We use the Omni Blocks as the travelling pulley for trolleying but the best ones by far fo

Re: [AFMUG] Installer Issue With Helpers

2015-11-18 Thread Mathew Howard
Sorry! I didn't mean to...

Re: [AFMUG] Installer Issue With Helpers

2015-11-18 Thread Adam Moffett
Hey, why you hatin on Matlock ? On 11/18/2015 1:22 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: Yep, there's a big difference between the guys that actually want to help, either to get you out of their house faster or to make sure things are done how they want it, and the old geezer that just wants to talk at you

Re: [AFMUG] SFP data screwed up on ROS 3.32.3 ?

2015-11-18 Thread Adam Moffett
I was wondering that exact thing. I'll find out tonight after a downgrade. On 11/18/2015 2:33 PM, George Skorup wrote: What are the Tx and Rx power numbers when you're on 6.29? Maybe the DDM data is supposed to be -4.117dBm/-1.745dBm and the older software is just rounding it while the newer

Re: [AFMUG] SFP data screwed up on ROS 3.32.3 ?

2015-11-18 Thread George Skorup
What are the Tx and Rx power numbers when you're on 6.29? Maybe the DDM data is supposed to be -4.117dBm/-1.745dBm and the older software is just rounding it while the newer software is just stupid? I have two MT multimode SFPs in a CCR on 6.32.2 and they read fine: On 11/18/2015 11:21 AM, Ad

Re: [AFMUG] Pull line

2015-11-18 Thread can...@believewireless.net
We tried this method and it sucks. The rope and bag work the best. We put rope we drop through the block and then start pulling it to the ground. The weight of the rope helps with the pull a little. On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 12:49 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > we j

Re: [AFMUG] Question

2015-11-18 Thread Chuck McCown
You are reading my mind From: George Skorup Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 5:13 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Question So you're gonna make a fiber to copper media converter in the APC SS card format? :) That would be pretty cool. In that case, I think I'd rather just have a

Re: [AFMUG] 450 frame utilization and performance issues

2015-11-18 Thread William Burns
Thanks Aaron. So this is ultimately an RF issue and not CPU? The 450i APs will have the same problem? Thanks/Billy Burns -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Aaron Schneider Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 11:12 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 4

Re: [AFMUG] DKIM

2015-11-18 Thread Robbie Wright
We have it setup and it works great. And DMARC as well. Except for this mailing list. You'll fail DKIM checks on this list (and many others) and likely get marked as spam. Robbie Wright Siuslaw Broadband 541-902-5101 On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 10:20 AM, Eric Kuhnke w

Re: [AFMUG] Installer Issue With Helpers

2015-11-18 Thread Mathew Howard
Yep, there's a big difference between the guys that actually want to help, either to get you out of their house faster or to make sure things are done how they want it, and the old geezer that just wants to talk at you because he's bored of watching Matlock re-runs. On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 9:31 AM

[AFMUG] DKIM

2015-11-18 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Anyone here not have DKIM set up on your domain's MX? If not, why not?

Re: [AFMUG] CAT5e or CAT6 shielded outdoor patch cable

2015-11-18 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Forgot to mention, with this setup you need a 20W rated 48 vdc power supply at the bottom and at least two conductors of 18 gauge copper. On Nov 18, 2015 10:12 AM, "Eric Kuhnke" wrote: > Make it optical except for the last 2' of cable. > > Small ip67 rated box, some glands > > single mode fiber t

Re: [AFMUG] CAT5e or CAT6 shielded outdoor patch cable

2015-11-18 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Make it optical except for the last 2' of cable. Small ip67 rated box, some glands single mode fiber to a backplate mounted SC/UPC duplex bulkhead Meanwell 36-72vdc input, 12vdc output 20W rated DC DC converter Good quality 1000baseT to SFP media converter (12V powered) One 1310nm LX SFP 30cm

Re: [AFMUG] Pull line

2015-11-18 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
we just use the orange string on a yellow handle from ace, it fits in your pocket. we tie on a big crecent wrench whis is heavy enough to drop it in wind. then use it to pull up the rope. takes a little longer to wind it up as your pulling your rope up otherwise its a mess. On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at

Re: [AFMUG] SFP data screwed up on ROS 3.32.3 ?

2015-11-18 Thread Adam Moffett
No.nor does rebooting the router. I have several SFP's in at least 3 CCR's with the same anomaly. Today just happens to be the first time I noticed it, but I assume it's been like that for a little while. On 11/18/2015 12:03 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: You have an awesome noise floor in that

Re: [AFMUG] Pull line

2015-11-18 Thread Josh Luthman
The wad definitely sucks, but that problem could be solved by a spool and weight. Always bring up all your tools in the bucket/bag, otherwise that's going to be a really bad double climb. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Nov

Re: [AFMUG] Pull line

2015-11-18 Thread Jay Weekley
Makes sense. My plan was to use it for small tools or radios in case someone got to the top of a tower and needed something but I've never actually implemented the idea. And you have a big wad of string to deal with. Josh Luthman wrote: Tried string. There's no way to pull it up on the towe

Re: [AFMUG] SFP data screwed up on ROS 3.32.3 ?

2015-11-18 Thread Josh Luthman
You have an awesome noise floor in that light tunnel... Did restarting the interface fix the power readout? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 12:01 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: > I have a few CCR's on 3.32.3 with

[AFMUG] SFP data screwed up on ROS 3.32.3 ?

2015-11-18 Thread Adam Moffett
I have a few CCR's on 3.32.3 with the same model SFP in all of them. They're all showing screwball numbers for tx and rx power. With ROS 6.29, same model SFP, and same model CCR I get realistic numbers. I'm not sure if it's only some kind of a display artifact or a symptom of something worse

Re: [AFMUG] Pull line

2015-11-18 Thread Josh Luthman
Tried string. There's no way to pull it up on the tower. You have no grip on it. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 11:50 AM, Jay Weekley wrote: > Try this. It's actually rated for 210 pounds. > > http://www

Re: [AFMUG] Pull line

2015-11-18 Thread Jay Weekley
Try this.  It's actually rated for 210 pounds. http://www.lowes.com/pd_187202-72068-430-500_0__?productId=3414326 http://images.lowes.com/product/converted/783310/783310125983lg.jpg Josh Luthman wrote: We use that exact same block, I think.  Bu

Re: [AFMUG] Pull line

2015-11-18 Thread Josh Luthman
We use that exact same block, I think. But that doesn't really solve my issue =P Jay - no link/image? I got this rope: http://www.rocknrescue.com/acatalog/Sterling-3-8-10mm-Superstatic2-300-foot-92M-Sections.html this bag: http://shop.pmirope.com/pmi-large-rope-bag-blue-rb44017 Thanks for the s

Re: [AFMUG] CAT5e or CAT6 shielded outdoor patch cable

2015-11-18 Thread Eric Muehleisen
Fiber would be fantastic in this scenario. Too bad my AF24 takes copper only. On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 9:48 AM, David wrote: > I move to fiber when it runs over 250' > > > On 11/18/2015 09:17 AM, Rory Conaway wrote: >> >> I would look at a 23 gauge Cat-6. Contact Kevin at Primus. We used it >> f

Re: [AFMUG] CAT5e or CAT6 shielded outdoor patch cable

2015-11-18 Thread Ken Hohhof
My first tower project as a WISP, I used L-Com connectors on Mohawk armored cable. The APs have been upgraded but the cables are still in use today. Not something I've been willing to do again, though. -Original Message- From: Eric Muehleisen Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 9:35

Re: [AFMUG] CAT5e or CAT6 shielded outdoor patch cable

2015-11-18 Thread David
I move to fiber when it runs over 250' On 11/18/2015 09:17 AM, Rory Conaway wrote: I would look at a 23 gauge Cat-6. Contact Kevin at Primus. We used it for 300' runs successfully Rory -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Muehleisen Sent: Wedn

Re: [AFMUG] CAT5e or CAT6 shielded outdoor patch cable

2015-11-18 Thread Eric Muehleisen
In this particular application we used L-com connectors. We tested the cable with our fluke DSX and passed with flying colors including shielding test. We're scratching our heads here. I will give best tronics a call and see if they can provide a double shield solution. On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 9:2

Re: [AFMUG] Installer Issue With Helpers

2015-11-18 Thread Jay Weekley
I've had some actually help in a meaningful fashion but constant blah, blah, blah, blah... Drives me nuts. Work wrote: I have always found the type of people that follow you around want to learn so I teach them how to help and have them help I always get done in half the time And if they are a

Re: [AFMUG] CAT5e or CAT6 shielded outdoor patch cable

2015-11-18 Thread Ken Hohhof
Best-Tronics will make cables to custom length for you. In your situation, you might want to see if they can make them with double shielded cable. Or, if you buy double-shielded cable, and terminate them yourself with the type of connector that has a metal strain relief that crimps around the

Re: [AFMUG] Installer Issue With Helpers

2015-11-18 Thread Cameron Crum
hand them a pricing schedule: Regular Price $99 If you watch $199 If you help $299 On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 6:59 AM, Daniel White wrote: > I had that happen as well. Then you feel obligated to help the damn thing > down. > > > > Thank you, > > > > Daniel White > > afmu...@gmail.com > > Cell:

Re: [AFMUG] CAT5e or CAT6 shielded outdoor patch cable

2015-11-18 Thread David
What Kind of shield..? If its Aluminium it will most certainly have issues with RF. Especially when hot an cold conditions exist. Copper rigid jacket will do it for sure. Superior Essex "ONE and DONE" On 11/18/2015 08:51 AM, Eric Muehleisen wrote: We have a situation where an AirFiber is stru

Re: [AFMUG] CAT5e or CAT6 shielded outdoor patch cable

2015-11-18 Thread Rory Conaway
I would look at a 23 gauge Cat-6. Contact Kevin at Primus. We used it for 300' runs successfully Rory -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Muehleisen Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 7:52 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] CAT5e or CAT6 shield

Re: [AFMUG] CAT5e or CAT6 shielded outdoor patch cable

2015-11-18 Thread Keefe John
You could try running your cable inside liquid tight flexible metal conduit. On 11/18/2015 8:51 AM, Eric Muehleisen wrote: We have a situation where an AirFiber is struggling to maintain a gigabit ethernet connection. It's right next to a FM antenna. We've replaced the ~75ft. patch cable with be

[AFMUG] CAT5e or CAT6 shielded outdoor patch cable

2015-11-18 Thread Eric Muehleisen
We have a situation where an AirFiber is struggling to maintain a gigabit ethernet connection. It's right next to a FM antenna. We've replaced the ~75ft. patch cable with belden shielded CAT5 and shielded ends. We've replaced the cable a couple time now. It will run gigabit in good conditions, but

Re: [AFMUG] Pull line

2015-11-18 Thread Ken Hohhof
We use the Omni Blocks as the travelling pulley for trolleying but the best ones by far for the top side are the Kearney or Hubbell aluminum blocks: http://www.gmesupply.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=kearney+block -Original Message- From: George Skorup Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 201

Re: [AFMUG] Mailing list issue.

2015-11-18 Thread Curtis Brotherton
Amazon has what they call a “Suppression List”. If they see x number of bounces in a 24hr period, Amazon will put your email address in suppression and you will stop receiving emails from the list. A DNS issue with your domain is a common cause of this happening. I have sent Amazon a request

Re: [AFMUG] Mailing list issue.

2015-11-18 Thread Jaime Solorza
OK I don't see this.. Must be a ghost On Nov 17, 2015 9:34 PM, "Forrest Christian (List Account)" < li...@packetflux.com> wrote: > I'll join the club with mailing list issues. > > In my case, I had a dns event which made my domain appear not valid for a > few hours Tuesday morning. I resolved t

Re: [AFMUG] Installer Issue With Helpers

2015-11-18 Thread Daniel White
I had that happen as well. Then you feel obligated to help the damn thing down. Thank you, Daniel White afmu...@gmail.com Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite Social: LinkedIn:

Re: [AFMUG] Pull line

2015-11-18 Thread can...@believewireless.net
+1 This is the same method we use and it works very well. On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 10:57 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > How much weight is too much? > > I have 200 feet of Sterling 3/8 inch diameter Superstatic2 in a small PMI > rope bag. According to specs the rope weighs 8.4 lbs and the bag weighs 9

Re: [AFMUG] Installer Issue With Helpers

2015-11-18 Thread Work
I have always found the type of people that follow you around want to learn so I teach them how to help and have them help I always get done in half the timeAnd if they are annoying me I show them how to run the wire and have them do that  And if they don't want to learn I just keep teaching th

Re: [AFMUG] Rocket M365 Intermittent Ping Issue

2015-11-18 Thread Work
Please post on the UBNT forum you will get a insane amount of help But I would try 5.5.10 firmware first — Sent from Mailbox On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 11:29 AM, Justin Marshall wrote: > Hi, > I have a Rocket M365 (XM) link (used as a backhaul) that pings very > intermittent unless the link