Re: [AFMUG] Theoretical Question on Pine Tree Penetration

It's limited to a 20mhz channel, so I think like 120Mbps aggregate... or something like that. On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 11:01 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > What is the new 900 MHz Cambium supposed to do flat out? > > *From:* Mathew Howard > *Sent:* Friday,

Re: [AFMUG] Theoretical Question on Pine Tree Penetration

Im still working on that, just looking for a backup plan. This is for backhaul. I need to strengthen my negotiating position. Rory Conaway Triad Wireless Typed on my phone with one finger so please excuse typos and abbreviations. Original message From: Bill Prince

[AFMUG] And this is why i dont trust T-Tommy Wheeler

https://theintercept.com/2016/04/22/googles-remarkably-close-relationship-with-the-obama-white-house-in-two-charts/ Note the 250 Google and government employees that shuttled between the government and their overlords. Rory Conaway Triad Wireless Typed on my phone with one finger so please

Re: [AFMUG] Make a panel

AWESOME WORK! On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 6:14 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > Everything thing checked outwe will deliver on Monday Few days for > electricians to connect enclosure to power, grounding and bolting > down...the AC didn't get here on time so installation

Re: [AFMUG] Theoretical Question on Pine Tree Penetration

I am shooting 0.7 miles through one extremely thick pine with a Nanostation M2 in an area with little to no interference and pulling 30Mbps on a 10MHz channel. I'd say give it a shot! On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 10:01 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > What is the new 900 MHz Cambium

Re: [AFMUG] Theoretical Question on Pine Tree Penetration

What is the new 900 MHz Cambium supposed to do flat out? From: Mathew Howard Sent: Friday, April 22, 2016 8:29 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Theoretical Question on Pine Tree Penetration Indeed, a bit odd... I've never known 5ghz to work better than 2.4ghz nlos :P I would just try it and see

Re: [AFMUG] WTB: 5ghz 450 APs

Just tell your lawyer to tell their lawyer to call it even for all of the shit that UBNT didn't deliver on time... or at all. On 4/22/2016 10:49 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: That's trademarked! You wanna get sued? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337

Re: [AFMUG] WTB: 5ghz 450 APs

That's trademarked! You wanna get sued? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 22, 2016 11:42 PM, "Ken Hohhof" wrote: > SOON! > > *From:* Josh Luthman > *Sent:* Friday, April 22, 2016

Re: [AFMUG] WTB: 5ghz 450 APs

SOON! From: Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, April 22, 2016 10:31 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WTB: 5ghz 450 APs Right around the corner... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 22, 2016 11:29 PM, "Bill Prince"

Re: [AFMUG] WTB: 5ghz 450 APs

Right around the corner... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 22, 2016 11:29 PM, "Bill Prince" wrote: > That won't be until 2020. > > > bp > > > > On 4/22/2016 7:55 PM, Josh

Re: [AFMUG] WTB: 5ghz 450 APs

That won't be until 2020. bp On 4/22/2016 7:55 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Not Harriet's? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 22, 2016 10:54 PM, "Scott Vander Dussen"

Re: [AFMUG] Theoretical Question on Pine Tree Penetration

If they want it bad enough, they will pay for the structure to get over it. bp On 4/22/2016 6:32 PM, Rory Conaway wrote: We would need at least 150Mbps to start but as much as I could get is what I need. I don’t have a bucket truck but I can do a reasonable

Re: [AFMUG] WTB: 5ghz 450 APs

Not Harriet's? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 22, 2016 10:54 PM, "Scott Vander Dussen" wrote: > #broadbandstimulus... we wipe with Benjamin's. > > Thanks, > `S > > --- > Sent mobile, typed by thumbs. > >

Re: [AFMUG] WTB: 5ghz 450 APs

#broadbandstimulus... we wipe with Benjamin's. Thanks, `S --- Sent mobile, typed by thumbs. On Apr 22, 2016, at 19:46, Josh Luthman > wrote: Thanks Scott. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St

Re: [AFMUG] WTB: 5ghz 450 APs

Thanks Scott. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 22, 2016 10:41 PM, "Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc (ICI)" < t...@franklinisp.net> wrote: > Deal! Hell yes. > > *Tyson Burris, President* > *Internet Communications Inc.* >

Re: [AFMUG] WTB: 5ghz 450 APs

Deal! Hell yes. Tyson Burris, President Internet Communications Inc. 739 Commerce Dr. Franklin, IN 46131 317-738-0320 Daytime # 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # Online: www.surfici.net Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers! > On Apr 22, 2016, at 10:39 PM, Josh Luthman

Re: [AFMUG] WTB: 5ghz 450 APs

Long as Scott buys em at 15. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 22, 2016 10:36 PM, "Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc (ICI)" < t...@franklinisp.net> wrote: > LMAO. Ok I will sell you guys 450 APs w sectors and poes for 7K. Do

Re: [AFMUG] WTB: 5ghz 450 APs

LMAO. Ok I will sell you guys 450 APs w sectors and poes for 7K. Do we have a deal? Tyson Burris, President Internet Communications Inc. 739 Commerce Dr. Franklin, IN 46131 317-738-0320 Daytime # 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # Online: www.surfici.net Forgive the brevity, the typos and

Re: [AFMUG] WTB: 5ghz 450 APs

Black market radios! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 22, 2016 10:27 PM, "Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc (ICI)" < t...@franklinisp.net> wrote: > 15k? More like $1700 > > *Tyson Burris, President* > *Internet

Re: [AFMUG] Theoretical Question on Pine Tree Penetration

Indeed, a bit odd... I've never known 5ghz to work better than 2.4ghz nlos :P I would just try it and see what it does... even if you just test it with a pair of PowerBeams (or better yet, Rockets with 2`dishes), you should be able to get a pretty good idea what the airfibers are going to do. On

Re: [AFMUG] WTB: 5ghz 450 APs

15k? More like $1700 Tyson Burris, President Internet Communications Inc. 739 Commerce Dr. Franklin, IN 46131 317-738-0320 Daytime # 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # Online: www.surfici.net Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers! > On Apr 22, 2016, at 10:04 PM, Josh Luthman

Re: [AFMUG] WTB: 5ghz 450 APs

450 are pretty expensive... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 22, 2016 9:54 PM, "Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc (ICI)" < t...@franklinisp.net> wrote: > What exactly are you smoking? > > *Tyson Burris, President* >

Re: [AFMUG] WTB: 5ghz 450 APs

What exactly are you smoking? Tyson Burris, President Internet Communications Inc. 739 Commerce Dr. Franklin, IN 46131 317-738-0320 Daytime # 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # Online: www.surfici.net Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers! > On Apr 22, 2016, at 9:06 PM, Scott

Re: [AFMUG] Theoretical Question on Pine Tree Penetration

It's an OP requirement. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 22, 2016 9:39 PM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: > I never said 200mbps > On Apr 22, 2016 7:32 PM, "Rory Conaway" wrote: > >>

Re: [AFMUG] Theoretical Question on Pine Tree Penetration

Something that takes a larger channel width to make the same throughput (losing sensitivity due to thermal noise in the process) vs an FPGA radio at half the frequency through trees? :P Just seems like an odd tip. On Apr 22, 2016 8:35 PM, "Keefe John" wrote: > What about

Re: [AFMUG] Theoretical Question on Pine Tree Penetration

I never said 200mbps On Apr 22, 2016 7:32 PM, "Rory Conaway" wrote: > We would need at least 150Mbps to start but as much as I could get is what > I need. I don’t have a bucket truck but I can do a reasonable test up > there to get an idea with both 2.4 and 5GHz. > > > >

Re: [AFMUG] Theoretical Question on Pine Tree Penetration

What about a b5? On April 22, 2016 8:32:36 PM CDT, Rory Conaway wrote: >We would need at least 150Mbps to start but as much as I could get is >what I need. I don’t have a bucket truck but I can do a reasonable >test up there to get an idea with both 2.4 and 5GHz. > >Rory

Re: [AFMUG] Theoretical Question on Pine Tree Penetration

We would need at least 150Mbps to start but as much as I could get is what I need. I don’t have a bucket truck but I can do a reasonable test up there to get an idea with both 2.4 and 5GHz. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, April 22, 2016 5:53

Re: [AFMUG] WTB: 5ghz 450 APs

That's the black market price =) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 9:06 PM, Scott Vander Dussen wrote: > IKR.. Cambium and their pricing needs to get updated for 2016! > > > > *From:* Af

Re: [AFMUG] WTB: 5ghz 450 APs

IKR.. Cambium and their pricing needs to get updated for 2016! From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, April 22, 2016 6:01 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WTB: 5ghz 450 APs $15k each no antennas or POEs Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct:

Re: [AFMUG] WTB: 5ghz 450 APs

$15k each no antennas or POEs Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 8:56 PM, Scott Vander Dussen wrote: > TTSIA! >

[AFMUG] WTB: 5ghz 450 APs

TTSIA!

Re: [AFMUG] Theoretical Question on Pine Tree Penetration

Sure, but with a 10 MHz 256QAM dual polarity channel in 2.4 he's not going to get anywhere near 200 aggregate. It can work great and have good latency, 0% packet loss but it won't be particularly fast. I would try it, at that distance, if you don't need the AF2 somewhere else in your network you

Re: [AFMUG] Theoretical Question on Pine Tree Penetration

200 megs in 10 MHz? AF2x? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 22, 2016 8:48 PM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: > Hold on..you'd be surprised what 5 and ,,,10mhz channels at 2.4 can > penetrate...can you

Re: [AFMUG] Theoretical Question on Pine Tree Penetration

On 4/22/16 17:40, Rory Conaway wrote: Just curious if brute force might work under a mile. Sure, at some point you could put enough RF power into it to burn a hole through the trees. ~Seth

Re: [AFMUG] Theoretical Question on Pine Tree Penetration

I've seen it work with nanobridge-to-nanobridge (or nanobeam, powerbeam etc) at 1-2km distances through evergreen trees in the pacific northwest. This was in locations with very clean noise floor. Even 5 GHz will go through a small (20 meter sized) individual cluster of pine trees at 1.5km PTP, if

Re: [AFMUG] Theoretical Question on Pine Tree Penetration

200 aggregate or 200 full duplex? I'd say it depends on channel size and how high you can get the dishes. Are these at the base of the trees or somewhat higher? On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 5:33 PM, Rory Conaway wrote: > What are the chances of an AF2 with parabolic dishes

Re: [AFMUG] Theoretical Question on Pine Tree Penetration

Just curious if brute force might work under a mile. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Friday, April 22, 2016 5:40 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Theoretical Question on Pine Tree Penetration I never had good luck with any kind of trees at

Re: [AFMUG] Theoretical Question on Pine Tree Penetration

Like 0? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 22, 2016 8:33 PM, "Rory Conaway" wrote: > What are the chances of an AF2 with parabolic dishes going through .9 > miles of trees with at least 200Mbs assuming no

Re: [AFMUG] Theoretical Question on Pine Tree Penetration

I never had good luck with any kind of trees at that frequency. I would kinda work but not well. From: Rory Conaway Sent: Friday, April 22, 2016 6:33 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Theoretical Question on Pine Tree Penetration What are the chances of an AF2 with parabolic dishes

[AFMUG] Theoretical Question on Pine Tree Penetration

What are the chances of an AF2 with parabolic dishes going through .9 miles of trees with at least 200Mbs assuming no interference? Rory Conaway * Triad Wireless * CEO 4226 S. 37th Street * Phoenix * AZ 85040 602-426-0542 r...@triadwireless.net

Re: [AFMUG] Technology Use Policy

I highly encourage our employees to over use technology so that we can stay ahead of our customers. Seriously tho, we have never in 15 years had to tell someone to not surf the web or Facebook or whatever. I'd rather tackle it individually than on a whole if it ever was an issue. I think the

Re: [AFMUG] interesting malware, and checking an air router

LOL! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 5:00 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > I have considered the fact that sometimes wiring is bad in homes, yes. > > On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at

Re: [AFMUG] interesting malware, and checking an air router

I have considered the fact that sometimes wiring is bad in homes, yes. On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 3:55 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: > Have you considered burning his house down? > > On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 3:18 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm < > thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>

Re: [AFMUG] interesting malware, and checking an air router

Have you considered burning his house down? On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 3:18 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > So this guys still at it, hes tried contacing rise multiple times, they > wont help, blah blah blah, wants us to help. > > I did my due diligence, I called

Re: [AFMUG] Technology Use Policy

Spectorsoft makes a nice way to do spot testing, like drug testing From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ben Royer Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2016 5:01 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Technology Use Policy Anyone have a nice Technology Use Policy for their employees they would

Re: [AFMUG] interesting malware, and checking an air router

So this guys still at it, hes tried contacing rise multiple times, they wont help, blah blah blah, wants us to help. I did my due diligence, I called rise, told them we have a numbskul. I asked them if they were serving malicious content over unsecured wifi, he assured me they werent, something

[AFMUG] FS: PTP 600 links

For sale: PTP 600 connectorized  5.8 ghz links300 mbps PIDU included$1500 per link Sent from Outlook Mobile

[AFMUG] FS: Entitlements & WM 4

1 x SG00PL3016AA LITE SM 512KB TO 2MB FIXED LIC KEY 485 of 485 1 X SG00PL3018AA LITE SM 512KB TO 7MB FIXED LIC KEY 64 of 64 1 X SG00PL3016AA LITE SM 512KB TO 2MB FIXED LIC KEY 480 of 480 1 X SG00PL3009AA PTP100 10 TO 20MB UPGRADE KEY 2 of 4 4 x PTP 800 Upgrade key 10mbit to 100 1x WM 4 with 180

Re: [AFMUG] PMP100 SM lite license

yes no Problem send me Mac´s 2016-04-22 11:40 GMT+02:00 Pavel Lyuty : > Someone can help quickly get a license for the PMP100 SM Lite 512k to 4M 3 > pcs. To replace after the storm? > >

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Ethernet Errors

We had a lot of issues with rb2011 Ethernet drivers showing issues with HP, Intel NICs, netonix, adtran, accedian, etc. CCR used to (dunno if they still do) have a lot of weird Ethernet issues with other gear as well. The rest of the Mikrotik gear was normally pretty solid. On Apr 21, 2016 11:16

[AFMUG] PMP100 SM lite license

Someone can help quickly get a license for the PMP100 SM Lite 512k to 4M 3 pcs. To replace after the storm?