Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 for sale?

2016-08-09 Thread Josh Reynolds
Oh in that case, Cogent will let you "borrow" a /24 for ~ $250/mo. Or you could just buy a /24 at $11.xx per IP (or less) and save money after the first year. On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 11:51 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > I think we're talking grown up providers, not residential

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy FSK 13.4.1

2016-08-09 Thread David
Definitely if your are or plan on running pmp450 or 450i on the same band. On 08/09/2016 10:59 AM, George Skorup wrote: Yes. There were some bugs fixed. I believe mostly with the config import/export. And also the addition of Frame Alignment. On 8/9/2016 10:48 AM, Matt wrote: On the old

Re: [AFMUG] Service in KC Liberty Area.

2016-08-09 Thread Josh Reynolds
Liberty is in a weird spot, despite being a pretty good sized place (~ 30,000 people). I know NewDawn Fiber is headed that way, but it will be a few years most likely. On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 11:47 AM, Mike Delp wrote: > Hey guys, I have a need for service (~20Meg) at the

[AFMUG] Service in KC Liberty Area.

2016-08-09 Thread Mike Delp
Hey guys, I have a need for service (~20Meg) at the following coordinates. I keep pushing for more wireless providers to be used for this stuff, but Have been late in the process on most links. (Don't worry George, that Joliet location is still in the back of my mind.) 1223 Claycomo Road Kansas

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 for sale?

2016-08-09 Thread Josh Reynolds
Your comment was that the "bulk of broadband providers" are in the "$3 - $5" range. I countered that with up to date (as up to date as I could find) pricing with over 90% of the US broadband market, with some of that pricing having been consistent since 2011. *shrug* On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 for sale?

2016-08-09 Thread Ken Hohhof
I think you need to distinguish between "public IP" and "static IP". All our customers get a public IP (we don't NAT multiple customers to one public IP), but residential gets a dynamic (pool) IP. That doesn't really save us any IP space since most customers have an address lease 24x7. But

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 for sale?

2016-08-09 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
and also look at the pricing on a /29 ... IPv4 pricing is not linear, cause how they assign it. I am not sure what were talking about anymore.. The original discussion was in regards to Wholesale / Bulk Ip lease and not Retail give me an IP for one end user cost price. Retail price has a few

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 for sale?

2016-08-09 Thread Mike Hammett
but a dynamic public IP address is free. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Josh Reynolds" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2016 11:19:22 AM Subject:

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 for sale?

2016-08-09 Thread George Skorup
We give one public to businesses. Most pay more than enough to justify it. Res pays $5/mo. All we have is a /21. On 8/9/2016 11:26 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote: Thanks So see? It's all you WISP cowboys out there GIVING IPs away for pennies that's caused the world to run out of addresses! It's not

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 for sale?

2016-08-09 Thread Justin Wilson
Best was is a broker like ipv4auctions.com. The Co-Op in Indiana has been talking about a group purchase, but getting folks to commit has been the challenge. Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net --- http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEO xISP Solutions- Consulting – Data Centers - Bandwidth

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 for sale?

2016-08-09 Thread Josh Luthman
Uh... Pretty sure it's the schools with /16 and DOD with a dozen /8 before all of the WISPs to blame for exhaustion :) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Aug 9, 2016 12:26 PM, "Josh Reynolds" wrote: > Thanks >

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 for sale?

2016-08-09 Thread Josh Reynolds
Thanks So see? It's all you WISP cowboys out there GIVING IPs away for pennies that's caused the world to run out of addresses! It's not the datacenter monkeys and "DevOPs" folks, oh no. /s On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 11:23 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Great list. Nice

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 for sale?

2016-08-09 Thread Josh Luthman
Great list. Nice work. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Aug 9, 2016 12:19 PM, "Josh Reynolds" wrote: > Comcast (may be old pricing): $15 / mo > Comcast business: $20 / mo > AT: $15 - $40 / mo > Verizon

Re: [AFMUG] Hardened 12v battery chargers/mantainers

2016-08-09 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 8/9/16 07:45, Gino Villarini wrote: Hey guys, we are having our cheap $20 12v generator battery chargers/mantainers blown regularly. Willing to pay more for a better unit. Any recommendations? I like these: http://sens-usa.com/product/nrg-intelligent-engine-start-battery-charger/ ~Seth

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 for sale?

2016-08-09 Thread Josh Reynolds
Comcast (may be old pricing): $15 / mo Comcast business: $20 / mo AT: $15 - $40 / mo Verizon Wireless: $500 "one time setup fee" (ZOINKS!, that is the wireless division though...) Verizon FIOS: $20 / mo (depends on bundling options, it's actually more expensive on the higher plans!, see here:

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP beam forming antenna

2016-08-09 Thread George Skorup
Looks like the 1k uses the standard GlobalTop GPS receiver while the 2k uses the newer GTop GNSS (GPS+GLONASS, which is why it shows more sats). Cambium started populating the 450 APs with the GNSS receiver maybe a year and a half ago and it definitely maintains lock a hell of a lot better.

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy FSK 13.4.1

2016-08-09 Thread George Skorup
Yes. There were some bugs fixed. I believe mostly with the config import/export. And also the addition of Frame Alignment. On 8/9/2016 10:48 AM, Matt wrote: On the old Canopy PMP100 FSK gear is it worth moving from 13.4 to 13.4.1?

[AFMUG] Canopy FSK 13.4.1

2016-08-09 Thread Matt
On the old Canopy PMP100 FSK gear is it worth moving from 13.4 to 13.4.1?

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 for sale?

2016-08-09 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Yes, but that is direct retail side, and that is most likely reflective of internal policy.. (running server on a static IP)... thus getting a premium for that type of use. Bulk of the broadband providers are still in the $3 to $5 / ip range. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 for sale?

2016-08-09 Thread Justin Wilson
I have been doing several Ip purchases for clients. Most are scared away by pricing once you get above a /21. I had one client send their /19 off to a broker and they broke it up and sold it off for them. A /22 out of that went for about $10 an IP (around 10k). The client had fees and such

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 for sale?

2016-08-09 Thread Josh Reynolds
The residential ISPs have been preparing for this by charging up to $30/Mo :( see Google. On Aug 9, 2016 8:54 AM, "Faisal Imtiaz" wrote: > yeah, projections from the same folks who create stock market bubbles ! > LOL!, there is no shortage of folks making up numbers

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP beam forming antenna

2016-08-09 Thread can...@believewireless.net
We've started deploying them. We have two locations where the 1000 GPS antennas don't work due to (I think) STRONG 900MHz interference. Here are two sectors horizontally 40ft away from each other, one is a 1000 and one is a 2000 with the new sector and beamforming antenna. 1000 GPS Stats: GPS

Re: [AFMUG] Hardened 12v battery chargers/mantainers

2016-08-09 Thread Chuck McCown
Surge protection on the AC input perhaps? From: Gino Villarini Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2016 8:45 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] Hardened 12v battery chargers/mantainers Hey guys, we are having our cheap $20 12v generator battery chargers/mantainers blown regularly. Willing to pay more

[AFMUG] Hardened 12v battery chargers/mantainers

2016-08-09 Thread Gino Villarini
Hey guys, we are having our cheap $20 12v generator battery chargers/mantainers blown regularly. Willing to pay more for a better unit. Any recommendations?

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 for sale?

2016-08-09 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
yeah, projections from the same folks who create stock market bubbles ! LOL!, there is no shortage of folks making up numbers as needed. Logically speaking, look at the trending lease price, in the range of $1 to $2 /ip /month... which would give a very good clue on purchase price. For a $300

Re: [AFMUG] Force 180 in action

2016-08-09 Thread Jaime Solorza
No hablo On Aug 9, 2016 6:37 AM, "Lewis Bergman" wrote: > Even though I can't see the picture, I believe you managed to take a > picture or two where such things are prohibited. > > On Mon, Aug 8, 2016, 10:05 PM Jaime Solorza > wrote: > >>

Re: [AFMUG] Force 180 in action

2016-08-09 Thread Lewis Bergman
Even though I can't see the picture, I believe you managed to take a picture or two where such things are prohibited. On Mon, Aug 8, 2016, 10:05 PM Jaime Solorza wrote: > One of 10 Force 180s at detention center... Some are nlos hidden inside > SHU units where more

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 for sale?

2016-08-09 Thread David Milholen
A NIC? Most? There are quite a few of us here that have been around possibly before you LOL On 8/8/2016 11:38 PM, Robert wrote: It's something that every one of you uses every day and none of your businesses would be around without it.. Most of you are younger than it. Consider when you

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 for sale?

2016-08-09 Thread Andreas Wiatowski
I just paid a little over 10k for a /22. Transfer process from start to finish took about 2 weeks. Cheers, Andreas Wiatowski, CEO Silo Wireless Inc. 519-449-5656 x-600 On 2016-08-08, 9:14 PM, "Josh Reynolds" wrote: >When we purchased, per IP on a /20 was at $8.

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