Re: [AFMUG] billing systems

The VISP team are good guys, I'd definitely recommend them. On 10/14/2017 11:30 PM, Rory Conaway wrote: Thank you for the feedback.� I�m going to be checking out VISPnet first, seems pretty straightforward for what we need.� I�ve heard good things about Azotel but in the position I

Re: [AFMUG] billing systems

Thank you for the feedback. I'm going to be checking out VISPnet first, seems pretty straightforward for what we need. I've heard good things about Azotel but in the position I was in, they called first, and it looks pretty good for what we need. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com]

Re: [AFMUG] Batt Prices

I had a pair of Optima yellow top's on an APC 1400RM2U for about 7 years. One developed a bad cell. The other is still working fine in one of the work trucks today. :) Those are AGM. Was the cheapest option at the time. On 10/14/2017 8:03 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Right, cheap flooded cells.

Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review

He gave interesting interview on NPR... without boasting said he used to handle three or four guys at a time...wow... On Oct 14, 2017 7:24 PM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: > Yes. You should have > > On Oct 14, 2017 7:19 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > >> Blade

Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review

Yes. You should have On Oct 14, 2017 7:19 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > Blade Runner > Two thumbs down. > Long, boring and they never develop any of the interesting ideas they > launch. > > I should have seen the new Jackie Chan movie instead. >

[AFMUG] OT Movie Review

Blade Runner Two thumbs down. Long, boring and they never develop any of the interesting ideas they launch. I should have seen the new Jackie Chan movie instead.

Re: [AFMUG] Batt Prices

I guess I didn't realize they had one. Will have to check it out. -Original Message- From: Robert Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2017 7:08 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Batt Prices I was referring to their deep cycle marine... On 10/14/17 6:02 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: .08333

Re: [AFMUG] Batt Prices

I was referring to their deep cycle marine... On 10/14/17 6:02 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: .08333 and shipping is not needed. However every time I have tried to use automotive batts as stationary batteries they fail in 2 years. -Original Message- From: Robert Sent: Saturday, October 14,

Re: [AFMUG] Batt Prices

Right, cheap flooded cells. From: Lewis Bergman Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2017 3:12 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Batt Prices I assume these aren't AGM. On Sat, Oct 14, 2017, 4:01 PM Mathew Howard wrote: Have you looked at marine deep cycle batteries?

Re: [AFMUG] Batt Prices

.08333 and shipping is not needed. However every time I have tried to use automotive batts as stationary batteries they fail in 2 years. -Original Message- From: Robert Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2017 6:38 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Batt Prices By that criteria, the

Re: [AFMUG] Batt Prices

By that criteria, the 115 amp hour walmart batteries for less than $100 would seem to get the best price point... Robert On 10/14/17 1:57 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Lead, acid. Not in a moving vehicle, in an temperature controlled space. Not cycled. Float operation. I think that even if they

Re: [AFMUG] billing systems

Azotel does both and is a great product and The support is better than any other Platypus, PowerCode, Lok tech lokbox, etc Mitch Koep On 10/14/2017 9:54 AM, David Milholen wrote: We use an open source platform that has a very good support backbone. Very customize-able to fit any or most

Re: [AFMUG] Apparently 477 is not enough

On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 3:30 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote: > For the WISPA filing we pointed out that we know the general area we > cover, but when taken to the address level about the best we can do is a > 80-90% success rate at any specific address. If we can't manage to >

Re: [AFMUG] ethical delimma?

i would be concerned if they (schneider) got uppity. I cant imagine the wisp market is a very big component of their suppression sales base, id say its multiple zeros after the decimal. BUT would you want to risk an injunction? They likely wouldnt not win, but that doesnt stop a cease and desist

Re: [AFMUG] ethical delimma?

On 10/14/17 1:22 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I really want to have a comparison chart on my website comparing my stuff with theirs.  But I worry about several items: The testing is not done by an independent third party. (I might be fudging the data...) I don’t want any product slander letters

Re: [AFMUG] Batt Prices

No... definitely not. On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 4:12 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote: > I assume these aren't AGM. > > On Sat, Oct 14, 2017, 4:01 PM Mathew Howard wrote: > >> Have you looked at marine deep cycle batteries? I'm not sure what the 100 >> hour

Re: [AFMUG] Batt Prices

I assume these aren't AGM. On Sat, Oct 14, 2017, 4:01 PM Mathew Howard wrote: > Have you looked at marine deep cycle batteries? I'm not sure what the 100 > hour discharge rate is (I don't think the ones I was looking at listed it), > but if I remember correctly, they were

Re: [AFMUG] Batt Prices

Have you looked at marine deep cycle batteries? I'm not sure what the 100 hour discharge rate is (I don't think the ones I was looking at listed it), but if I remember correctly, they were around $80 for somewhere around 100 ah @ 20 hour discharge rate last time I was looking up prices. On Sat,

Re: [AFMUG] ethical delimma?

Yeah, just marketing hype as far as I am concerned. I personally think Ethernet should stop at 100 Mbps. Use fiber if you wanna go faster. From: Jay Weekley Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2017 2:33 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ethical delimma? Is there much demand for 10 gig

Re: [AFMUG] Batt Prices

Lead, acid. Not in a moving vehicle, in an temperature controlled space. Not cycled. Float operation. I think that even if they were cheap crap, they might do OK. -Original Message- From: Robert Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2017 2:31 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Batt

Re: [AFMUG] ethical delimma?

Your cards just happen to be the same form-factor. So... so what? On 10/14/2017 3:22 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: My line of APC surge suppressors got invented because someone got hit by a storm at their NOC and everything was fried.  And everything was protected by the APC rack mount surge

Re: [AFMUG] ethical delimma?

I've used 10G copper DACs. I won't buy a RJ45 10G server, switch, AP, whatever. Ever. SFP+ or I'll buy something else. On 10/14/2017 3:40 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: The new Ignitenet stuff can do 2.5gig over copper, but I can't imagine there's much demand for 10 gig in the wireless world...

Re: [AFMUG] ethical delimma?

The new Ignitenet stuff can do 2.5gig over copper, but I can't imagine there's much demand for 10 gig in the wireless world... maybe in enterprise wifi type products. But I suspect there are uses for surge suppressors that don't involve wireless... On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 3:33 PM, Jay Weekley

Re: [AFMUG] ethical delimma?

Yeah. Fiber or GTFO. On 10/14/2017 3:33 PM, Jay Weekley wrote: Is there much demand for 10 gig over copper for the wireless world? Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone Original message From: ch...@wbmfg.com Date: 10/14/17 3:22 PM (GMT-06:00) To: af@afmug.com Subject:

Re: [AFMUG] ethical delimma?

Is there much demand for 10 gig over copper for the wireless world?   Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone Original message From: ch...@wbmfg.com Date: 10/14/17 3:22 PM (GMT-06:00) To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] ethical delimma? My line of APC surge

Re: [AFMUG] Batt Prices

So is there something about these batteries that gives you a good feeling as to actual quality beyond the marketing blurb with the product? I only have the pure weight to be an independent judge right now. On 10/14/17 1:14 PM, Bill Prince wrote: Sho-nuff bp

Re: [AFMUG] Apparently 477 is not enough

For the WISPA filing we pointed out that we know the general area we cover, but when taken to the address level about the best we can do is a 80-90% success rate at any specific address. If we can't manage to achieve 100% accuracy for business purposes, how do they expect us to do it for

[AFMUG] ethical delimma?

My line of APC surge suppressors got invented because someone got hit by a storm at their NOC and everything was fried. And everything was protected by the APC rack mount surge suppressor. They sent me the cards and asked me to see why they didn’t work. I was already in the surge

Re: [AFMUG] Batt Prices

Sho-nuff bp On 10/14/2017 1:13 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Yeahbut, I had to do some manual screen scraping and data entry.� So I was a bit lazy.� And since I really don�t care about physical specs (being a cheap ass) that is all I did. So, yeah, I can.�

Re: [AFMUG] Batt Prices

Yeahbut, I had to do some manual screen scraping and data entry. So I was a bit lazy. And since I really don’t care about physical specs (being a cheap ass) that is all I did. So, yeah, I can. Do you want the spread sheet? From: Bill Prince Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2017 2:12 PM To:

Re: [AFMUG] Batt Prices

Can you add column(s) for group size and weight? bp On 10/14/2017 12:55 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: My list so far.� Price per watt hour is based on the 100 hour discharge rate.

Re: [AFMUG] Batt Prices

Like the color coding in the price column! Two thumbs up! bp On 10/14/2017 12:55 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: My list so far.� Price per watt hour is based on the 100 hour discharge rate.

Re: [AFMUG] Batt Prices

Ugh, must be a client issue. I went back and there it was. It must be as sleepy as I am. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Chuck Hogg" To: af@afmug.com Sent:

Re: [AFMUG] Batt Prices

Without attachment - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2017 2:55:08 PM Subject: [AFMUG] Batt Prices My list so far.

Re: [AFMUG] Apparently 477 is not enough

I don't disagree with you, but I didn't actually look into the other side's sources. I was just saying there's people out there that may think that doesn't work out. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original

Re: [AFMUG] Level 3 CDN

Yes, the XboxOne updates when it is off. It also continues downloading games and updates which are in queue. The games are around 70GB each on the big releases. On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 9:29 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > I would think updates when in standby would be preferred.

Re: [AFMUG] Best battery values

Yeah, I just need float service. So old fashioned flooded cell telco batts will last 20 years if kept in a climate controlled environment and not cycled. From: Bill Prince Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2017 9:37 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best battery values But you can deplete

Re: [AFMUG] Apparently 477 is not enough

Well, the census tiger database, us post office and 911 systems would all have most locations in them. I am sure there are locations without official addresses, but if someone has been living there and paying property taxes, pretty sure the local tax man has an address for the location.

Re: [AFMUG] billing systems

Thanks but we have talked to him multiple times. No longer interested in a company that never calls back and cuts you off multiple times. I don't run my company that way and when I have to get involved because they can't be bothered to talk to my tech who was tasked with making the decision

Re: [AFMUG] Level 3 CDN

I would think updates when in standby would be preferred. Unplug wto verify? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Steve Jones" To: af@afmug.com Sent:

Re: [AFMUG] Best battery values

But you can deplete them double what SLA batteries will tolerate. That makes them 50 cents /watt-hour. Then they will last for 2X cycles of SLA batteries. That makes them ~~ 25 cents /watt-hour. Guess that's still high... bp On 10/14/2017 8:22 AM, Chuck McCown

Re: [AFMUG] Apparently 477 is not enough

I've been in some debates lately with some people that insist that not every location has an (available) address. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] billing systems

I've poked Andrew at BrightWiFi. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Rory Conaway" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2017 9:05:20 AM Subject:

Re: [AFMUG] Best battery values

Scratch that, it was $1 per watt hour. From: Chuck McCown Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2017 9:08 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best battery values Interesting. First place I checked was about 10 cents per watt hour. I wonder if you have to have a special charger or if you can

Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

Also known as barely catching up, though it's possible that going even newer would be cost prohibitive. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Jason McKemie"

Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

It's airFiber v2. Keep up on TBW videos. The one we posted from a year ago covers LTU. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Gino A. Villarini" To: af@afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Best battery values

Interesting. First place I checked was about 10 cents per watt hour. I wonder if you have to have a special charger or if you can just float them like a regular AGM battery. From: Gino A. Villarini Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2017 9:03 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best battery

Re: [AFMUG] comparable mikrotik to airrouter

The hAP AC is a pretty versitile radio. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Steve Jones" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 9:00:12 PM

Re: [AFMUG] Best battery values

Lifepo4? Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini Gino A. Villarini President Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 [cid:aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png] On Oct 13, 2017, at 6:58 PM, "ch...@wbmfg.com"

Re: [AFMUG] billing systems

We use an open source platform that has a very good support backbone. Very customize-able to fit any or most needs for any or most wisps. We run 3 separate organizations on this platform besides a wisp. We use Freeside.. Talk to Ivan about what your trying to do +1�415�462�1624 On

Re: [AFMUG] billing systems

I am 99% sure VISP.net does both. On 10/14/2017 9:05 AM, Rory Conaway wrote: We just started deploying Wispmon because it used Mikrotik and supported HotSpots.� Now with Sonar, they don�t support Hot-Spots.� I�m told to call Brightwifi but my techs have talked to them several times

[AFMUG] billing systems

We just started deploying Wispmon because it used Mikrotik and supported HotSpots. Now with Sonar, they don't support Hot-Spots. I'm told to call Brightwifi but my techs have talked to them several times and they keep getting told that other calls are coming in or someone is walking into a