Re: [AFMUG] BTC

2017-11-17 Thread Adam Moffett
For awhile there, the interest rate was lower than inflation rate.debt honestly was better than some investments. I'm not sure where we stand on that score now and I'm too lazy to Google. -- Original Message -- From: "Steve Jones" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 11/17/2017 11:55:09 PM Subj

Re: [AFMUG] BTC

2017-11-17 Thread Simon Westlake
I'll tell you what, if you ever want a soda and all you have is a gold bar, gimme a call. On 11/17/2017 10:55 PM, Steve Jones wrote: The world is and always will be analog. Thats why i put all my money into debt. Its the only stable market. Playing a devils advocate though, i couldnt buy a po

Re: [AFMUG] BTC

2017-11-17 Thread Steve Jones
The world is and always will be analog. Thats why i put all my money into debt. Its the only stable market. Playing a devils advocate though, i couldnt buy a pop with a gold bar at a gas station if i wanted to either. Mark dice showed that with silver bars vs candy bars. Any money only has value

Re: [AFMUG] BTC

2017-11-17 Thread Simon Westlake
When the power is out, no money is money On 11/17/2017 10:42 PM, Steve Jones wrote: Til the power is out On Nov 17, 2017 10:34 PM, "Simon Westlake" wrote: All money is money On 11/17/2017 10:33 PM, Steve Jones wrote: As a bubble risk investment its insane good, look at wikileaks

Re: [AFMUG] BTC

2017-11-17 Thread Steve Jones
Til the power is out On Nov 17, 2017 10:34 PM, "Simon Westlake" wrote: > All money is money > > On 11/17/2017 10:33 PM, Steve Jones wrote: > > As a bubble risk investment its insane good, look at wikileaks, they had > no choice and have bank. > > > > Its just not money > > On Nov 17, 2017 10:22

Re: [AFMUG] BTC

2017-11-17 Thread Simon Westlake
All money is money On 11/17/2017 10:33 PM, Steve Jones wrote: As a bubble risk investment its insane good,  look at wikileaks, they had no choice and have bank. Its just not money On Nov 17, 2017 10:22 PM, "Simon Westlake" wrote: It reminds me every time it goes up another $1k that I

Re: [AFMUG] BTC

2017-11-17 Thread Steve Jones
As a bubble risk investment its insane good, look at wikileaks, they had no choice and have bank. Its just not money On Nov 17, 2017 10:22 PM, "Simon Westlake" wrote: It reminds me every time it goes up another $1k that I was really stupid to not mine it when it was worth 1c. I've been sayin

Re: [AFMUG] BTC

2017-11-17 Thread Simon Westlake
It reminds me every time it goes up another $1k that I was really stupid to not mine it when it was worth 1c. I've been saying since it was worth $10 that it's gonna crash. A couple of weeks ago I said it was crazy it's at 5k, it's at 7.5k now. On 11/17/2017 10:20 PM, Steve Jones wrote: Crypto

Re: [AFMUG] BTC

2017-11-17 Thread Steve Jones
Crypto currency reminds me of those guys who are always talking about the superiority of linux and how linux is gonna dominate. Fanboydom may have many accurate examples, probably is superior, but wont dominate On Nov 17, 2017 8:51 PM, "Simon Westlake" wrote: > Good question, I'll have to ask my

Re: [AFMUG] BTC

2017-11-17 Thread Simon Westlake
Good question, I'll have to ask my friends at Infowars. On 11/17/2017 8:50 PM, Bill Prince wrote: Wonder about yuan (Renminbi)? bp On 11/17/2017 6:47 PM, Simon Westlake wrote: I doubt krona, rubles, or francs were either. On 11/17/2017 6:07 PM, Steve Jones wrote: Out of curiousity, down i

Re: [AFMUG] BTC

2017-11-17 Thread Bill Prince
Wonder about yuan (Renminbi)? bp On 11/17/2017 6:47 PM, Simon Westlake wrote: I doubt krona, rubles, or francs were either. On 11/17/2017 6:07 PM, Steve Jones wrote: Out of curiousity, down in puerto rico, was that cryptocurrency buying any gas, water ot food? On Nov 17, 2017 4:48 PM, "Se

Re: [AFMUG] BTC

2017-11-17 Thread Simon Westlake
I doubt krona, rubles, or francs were either. On 11/17/2017 6:07 PM, Steve Jones wrote: Out of curiousity, down in puerto rico, was that cryptocurrency buying any gas, water ot food? On Nov 17, 2017 4:48 PM, "Sean Heskett" > wrote: Hey Travis and gang, Here's

Re: [AFMUG] Powering an Airfiber 5x

2017-11-17 Thread Josh Luthman
Are they 48v units? I'll take em. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 8:29 PM, Mitch Koep wrote: > Any one interested in the two I have? > > They have never worked for me??? > > > Mitch Koep > > 218-851-8689 <(

Re: [AFMUG] Powering an Airfiber 5x

2017-11-17 Thread Mitch Koep
Any one interested in the two I have? They have never worked for me??? Mitch Koep 218-851-8689 cell On 11/17/2017 6:08 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: It was like the first shipment or two I think. I've only got one pair that are 24v only. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1

Re: [AFMUG] Powering an Airfiber 5x

2017-11-17 Thread Josh Luthman
It was like the first shipment or two I think. I've only got one pair that are 24v only. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 1:23 PM, Chuck Macenski wrote: > If your mac address is in the range 04:18:d6:e3:00:0

Re: [AFMUG] BTC

2017-11-17 Thread Steve Jones
Out of curiousity, down in puerto rico, was that cryptocurrency buying any gas, water ot food? On Nov 17, 2017 4:48 PM, "Sean Heskett" wrote: > Hey Travis and gang, > > Here's a really good audiobook that does a deep dive into all things > cryptocurrency. It was written by a couple of Wall Stre

Re: [AFMUG] BTC

2017-11-17 Thread Sean Heskett
Hey Travis and gang, Here's a really good audiobook that does a deep dive into all things cryptocurrency. It was written by a couple of Wall Street Journalist. The link below is to audible.com. It answers a lot of the questions you are asking. **

[AFMUG] FS: Easy pass thru RJ45s heavy gold plated

2017-11-17 Thread TJ Trout
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Re: [AFMUG] High-voltage lines interference

2017-11-17 Thread Jaime Solorza
I remember the original NCR WaveLAN 900MHz installation guide recommended not installing near power lines. I have successfully done links in 900, 2.4GHz and 5GHz through and near high power lines. On Nov 17, 2017 2:46 PM, "Jeremy" wrote: > I have shot directly over a substation from a block aw

Re: [AFMUG] High-voltage lines interference

2017-11-17 Thread Jeremy
I have shot directly over a substation from a block away before, and have done numerous installs right beneath high voltage power lines. I actually have a site that is right below some lines up on the bench. I have never noticed any issues from power lines. What frequency are you running? On Th

Re: [AFMUG] BTC

2017-11-17 Thread Adam Moffett
I'm going to become a hunter-gatherer and leave all these complex topics behind. -- Original Message -- From: "Chris Wright" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 11/17/2017 4:01:52 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] BTC Sure, but then you run the very real risk of your transaction being unconfirmed indefinite

Re: [AFMUG] BTC

2017-11-17 Thread Chris Wright
Sure, but then you run the very real risk of your transaction being unconfirmed indefinitely because there is no incentive for anyone to mine it. If there were no fees then any one user could DoS the network with bogus transactions. Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af

Re: [AFMUG] BTC

2017-11-17 Thread Simon Westlake
There's nothing stopping you from using it without paying, you just don't move it through a broker or exchange. If you send me Bitcoin direct wallet to wallet, it's free. If I pay someone for services in BTC, it's free. If I mine BTC, I don't have to pay anyone. There's only a cost if I want t

Re: [AFMUG] BTC

2017-11-17 Thread Travis Johnson
Hi, I agree with most of what you said here... however, the original premise for BTC was that everyone was tired of the "banks" controlling the money... and charging fees to do so. I just really don't see how that has changed much... I currently have 4 or 5 bank accounts, all at different ban

Re: [AFMUG] BTC

2017-11-17 Thread chuck
That was a good video. I knew about 80% of it but one thing that I did not know until now was that the hash of a block is included as the header of the next block. That makes it pretty danged secure. -Original Message- From: Chris Wright Sent: Friday, November 17, 2017 12:28 PM To:

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Re: [AFMUG] BTC

2017-11-17 Thread Steve Jones
"The only way" The only way to defeat WPA2 is to decrypt it and it would take forever or um you just make it give you the key in plain text 1 hard fork already, one just abandoned... so yes, there IS a "central bank" On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 1:28 PM, Chris Wright wrote: > Many of the negati

Re: [AFMUG] BTC

2017-11-17 Thread Chris Wright
Many of the negative things you say here about BTC are questions I had when I was still learning. Let me clear some things up. Coinbase charges for when you want to buy BTC with fiat (USD). They have a business to run. Everyone here knows that processing debit/ACH payments is NOT free. Onboardi

Re: [AFMUG] Powering an Airfiber 5x

2017-11-17 Thread Chuck Macenski
If your mac address is in the range 04:18:d6:e3:00:00 to 04:18:d6:e3:08:e9 you are 24 volt only. All others are 48 volt enabled. Chuck On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 11:22 AM, Adair Winter wrote: > unless they have been sitting on the shelf for two years, It shouldn't be > a problem. > > On Fri, Nov

Re: [AFMUG] Powering an Airfiber 5x

2017-11-17 Thread Adair Winter
unless they have been sitting on the shelf for two years, It shouldn't be a problem. On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 11:21 AM, Jason McKemie < j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote: > That's a definite caveat. > > On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 11:19 AM, Josh Baird wrote: > >> Only the very early ones cannot

Re: [AFMUG] Powering an Airfiber 5x

2017-11-17 Thread Jason McKemie
That's a definite caveat. On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 11:19 AM, Josh Baird wrote: > Only the very early ones cannot be powered with 48VDC.. there is a tool > somewhere on UBNT's website that helps you decide if yours is 48VDC capable > or not. > > On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 12:17 PM, Adair Winter < > a

Re: [AFMUG] Powering an Airfiber 5x

2017-11-17 Thread Jason McKemie
Spec sheet says 19-29VDC, +48VDC Input - so you should be fine. On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 11:10 AM, Paul McCall wrote: > There seems to be some confusion online about whether you can use 48v to > power up an Airfiber 5x? I have a tech onsite getting ready to do that, > but wanted to make sure we

Re: [AFMUG] Powering an Airfiber 5x

2017-11-17 Thread Josh Baird
Only the very early ones cannot be powered with 48VDC.. there is a tool somewhere on UBNT's website that helps you decide if yours is 48VDC capable or not. On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 12:17 PM, Adair Winter wrote: > Yes, we power all of ours with 48v > > On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 11:10 AM, Paul McCall

Re: [AFMUG] Powering an Airfiber 5x

2017-11-17 Thread Adair Winter
Yes, we power all of ours with 48v On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 11:10 AM, Paul McCall wrote: > There seems to be some confusion online about whether you can use 48v to > power up an Airfiber 5x? I have a tech onsite getting ready to do that, > but wanted to make sure we don’t make magic smoke come

[AFMUG] Powering an Airfiber 5x

2017-11-17 Thread Paul McCall
There seems to be some confusion online about whether you can use 48v to power up an Airfiber 5x? I have a tech onsite getting ready to do that, but wanted to make sure we don’t make magic smoke come out 😊 Paul McCall, President PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc. 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero

[AFMUG] FCC Wants to Open More High-Band Spectrum for 5G | Light Reading

2017-11-17 Thread Jaime Solorza
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