Re: [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links

2015-06-13 Thread Brandon Yuchasz
We are running 2.4 firmware. Best regards, Brandon Yuchasz GogebicRange.net www.gogebicrange.net http://www.gogebicrange.net/ From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 9:34 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links

Re: [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links

2015-06-12 Thread Josh Luthman
or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net - FROM: Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com TO: af@afmug.com SENT: Thursday, June 11, 2015 8:42:24 PM SUBJECT: Re: [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links Ours replaced RM5's that wouldn't even link... now running at over 100MBps on a 10MHz

Re: [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links

2015-06-12 Thread Mike Hammett
: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 2:35:46 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links Which they don't feel confident releasing to anyone anymore... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy

Re: [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links

2015-06-12 Thread Brandon Yuchasz
www.gogebicrange.net http://www.gogebicrange.net/ From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 6:37 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links I know my non GPS ePTP mode radios are locking up. You can access either device locally

Re: [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links

2015-06-12 Thread Josh Luthman
, June 11, 2015 6:37 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links I know my non GPS ePTP mode radios are locking up. You can access either device locally but the wireless is busted. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy

Re: [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links

2015-06-12 Thread Ken Hohhof
not be telling the whole story, if you aren’t even in the right zipcode as far as alignment. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 9:28 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links Let's assume it is misaligned (based on what Alex said it should be something like -51). AF5x can't

Re: [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links

2015-06-12 Thread Matt Hardy
in the ass? *From:* Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *Sent:* Thursday, June 11, 2015 6:56 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links EPTP mode fills the latency fix. My first attempt at AF5x and it won't even register. I'm trying to replace Rockets that link

Re: [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links

2015-06-12 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
@afmug.com Cc: Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 3:32:15 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links Dev build ;) On 2015-06-11 10:38 pm, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: now running at over 100MBps on a 10MHz channel... ??? Is that Air rate you are quoting

Re: [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links

2015-06-12 Thread Josh Reynolds
: Friday, June 12, 2015 3:32:15 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links Dev build ;) On 2015-06-11 10:38 pm, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: now running at over 100MBps on a 10MHz channel... ??? Is that Air rate you are quoting ?   256QAM on a 10meg channel falls short of 100MBps

Re: [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links

2015-06-12 Thread Josh Luthman
, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: New EIRP rules biting you in the ass? *From:* Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *Sent:* Thursday, June 11, 2015 6:56 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links EPTP mode fills the latency fix. My first attempt at AF5x

Re: [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links

2015-06-12 Thread Josh Luthman
11, 2015 8:13 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: New EIRP rules biting you in the ass? *From:* Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *Sent:* Thursday, June 11, 2015 6:56 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links EPTP mode fills the latency fix. My first

[AFMUG] Force110 PTP links

2015-06-11 Thread Josh Luthman
Has anyone deployed some of these? Just looking for general opinions on them. Any bigger dishes used (say 2' or 3' for long distance shots)? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373

Re: [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links

2015-06-11 Thread Jaime Solorza
The Chihuahua client I told you aboit said they are fast. Delivering almost all 20 Mbps ..16kma Jaime Solorza On Jun 11, 2015 12:50 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Has anyone deployed some of these? Just looking for general opinions on them. Any bigger dishes used (say

Re: [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links

2015-06-11 Thread SmarterBroadband
AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links Has anyone deployed some of these? Just looking for general opinions on them. Any bigger dishes used (say 2' or 3' for long distance shots)? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH

Re: [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links

2015-06-11 Thread Matt
We use rocket dishes ePMP BH links. Not done any Force110 PTP. Only because we started using ePMP for PTP long before Force110 came out. And we use sync which was not turned on then. Adam How is it working with sync? What kind of latency and throughput with sync? How is frequency reuse

Re: [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links

2015-06-11 Thread Josh Luthman
...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman *Sent:* Thursday, June 11, 2015 11:51 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links Has anyone deployed some of these? Just looking for general opinions on them. Any bigger dishes used (say 2' or 3' for long distance shots)? Josh Luthman

Re: [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links

2015-06-11 Thread Mathew Howard
That particular link is actually running in ePTP mode, and I haven't seen any issues with it hanging... I wonder if that bug doesn't affect the GPS radios? I don't think I have any of our other links in ePTP mode. We've done several links using a PTP at one end and a normal connectorized radio at

Re: [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links

2015-06-11 Thread Mathew Howard
Yes, it's been running for about 2 months now and I haven't seen any problems with it. On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: My ePTP link is non-GPS. Are you saying your ePTP is GPS and doesn't have the problem? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340

Re: [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links

2015-06-11 Thread Josh Luthman
My ePTP link is non-GPS. Are you saying your ePTP is GPS and doesn't have the problem? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:43 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: That particular link is actually

Re: [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links

2015-06-11 Thread Mathew Howard
I Like 'em. I'm not convinced there's a lot of benefit to the PTP unless you're using sync, but sync is really nice... We have one link up with PTP's at both ends, one end is on a 2' RocketDish and the other is a Force110 dish, if I remember right, the link is right around 10 miles and I can get

Re: [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links

2015-06-11 Thread Josh Luthman
Glad to hear it! I'm not sure there's any benefit to the PTP radios either. The containerized 5 GHz radios do the same throughput and work with passive power. I prefer the ePTP mode instead of sync, the low latency is so sexy, but there's a killer bug that's causing the link to hang =( Josh

Re: [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links

2015-06-11 Thread Mathew Howard
containerized... that must be when you buy a cheap router from walmart in put it on a tower in a rubbermaid container. On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:06 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote: You mean connectorized? bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 6/11/2015 2:21 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links

2015-06-11 Thread Josh Luthman
Uh ya that. Can't even blame spell check on that... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jun 11, 2015 6:12 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: containerized... that must be when you buy a cheap router from walmart in put

Re: [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links

2015-06-11 Thread George Skorup
Why exactly? Just asking. I'm wondering if we should be doing cheap PTP with ePMP or AF5x. I have several Force110 links up (just SMs, not PTP) operating all across the 5GHz bands. And one 10 mile link with Laird 2' dishes using connectorized non-GPS radios. Other than some oddities like

Re: [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links

2015-06-11 Thread Josh Luthman
I installed mine last Friday. I've had it lock up 8 or 9 times as of today. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jun 11, 2015 5:47 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, it's been running for about 2 months now and I

Re: [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links

2015-06-11 Thread Josh Luthman
I know my non GPS ePTP mode radios are locking up. You can access either device locally but the wireless is busted. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jun 11, 2015 7:34 PM, Jon Langeler jon-ispli...@michwave.net wrote: So what's

Re: [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links

2015-06-11 Thread Bill Prince
You mean connectorized? bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 6/11/2015 2:21 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: The containerized 5 GHz radios do the same throughput

Re: [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links

2015-06-11 Thread Lewis Bergman
Does the force auto select a clean frequency? On Jun 11, 2015 5:13 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: containerized... that must be when you buy a cheap router from walmart in put it on a tower in a rubbermaid container. On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:06 PM, Bill Prince

Re: [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links

2015-06-11 Thread joseph marsh
I got 2 links ready to deploy just sitting the office waiting to go up on the tower On Jun 11, 2015 5:34 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Uhm...I guess? It hears noise better than Ubnt for sure. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite

Re: [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links

2015-06-11 Thread Colin Stanners
The PTP radios with the gigabit port can do almost double the PPS - given that that's an issue with wifi-chipset-based radios when links get loaded or you're using VoIP, may be worth the extra investment. On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 4:21 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Glad to

Re: [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links

2015-06-11 Thread Jon Langeler
So what's the scoop here? What products are or aren't locking up? Sent from my iPhone On Jun 11, 2015, at 5:58 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I installed mine last Friday. I've had it lock up 8 or 9 times as of today. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct:

Re: [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links

2015-06-11 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net - Original Message - From: Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 8:42:24 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links Ours replaced RM5's that wouldn't even link... now running at over 100MBps on a 10MHz

Re: [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links

2015-06-11 Thread Josh Luthman
EPTP mode fills the latency fix. My first attempt at AF5x and it won't even register. I'm trying to replace Rockets that link up at -66. I'm told that there's a path issue or bad radio. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jun 11,

Re: [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links

2015-06-11 Thread Josh Luthman
...@imaginenetworksllc.com *Sent:* Thursday, June 11, 2015 6:56 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links EPTP mode fills the latency fix. My first attempt at AF5x and it won't even register. I'm trying to replace Rockets that link up at -66. I'm told that there's a path issue

Re: [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links

2015-06-11 Thread Josh Luthman
...@imaginenetworksllc.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, June 11, 2015 7:02:04 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links No it's just the Af5x... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jun 11, 2015 7:57 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote

Re: [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links

2015-06-11 Thread Jaime Solorza
I have seen that as well as ice coolers on towers with radios inside Jaime Solorza On Jun 11, 2015 4:13 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: containerized... that must be when you buy a cheap router from walmart in put it on a tower in a rubbermaid container. On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at

Re: [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links

2015-06-11 Thread Mike Hammett
@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 6:56:12 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links EPTP mode fills the latency fix. My first attempt at AF5x and it won't even register. I'm trying to replace Rockets that link up at -66. I'm told that there's a path issue or bad radio. Josh Luthman

Re: [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links

2015-06-11 Thread Josh Luthman
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Re: [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links

2015-06-11 Thread Mike Hammett
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 7:02:04 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links No it's just the Af5x... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jun 11, 2015 7:57 PM, Mike Hammett af

Re: [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links

2015-06-11 Thread Josh Reynolds
:12 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links EPTP mode fills the latency fix. My first attempt at AF5x and it won't even register. I'm trying to replace Rockets that link up at -66. I'm told that there's a path issue or bad radio. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552