Re: [AFMUG] PTP 650 Sets New Wireless Broadband Link Record of 245km

2015-08-10 Thread Dan Petermann
If you have received this > electronic message in error, please notify us immediately and destroy the > original message and all copies. > > > > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett > Sent: August 10, 2015 9:36 AM > To: af@afmug.com >

Re: [AFMUG] PTP 650 Sets New Wireless Broadband Link Record of 245km

2015-08-10 Thread Ken Hohhof
:05 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PTP 650 Sets New Wireless Broadband Link Record of 245km Excellent point about the effect of delay on throughput. I had forgotten about that before I ranted about licenses. Sometimes I need a leash I think. On 8/10/2015 11:00 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote

Re: [AFMUG] PTP 650 Sets New Wireless Broadband Link Record of 245km

2015-08-10 Thread Chuck McCown
About 1ns per foot. Comes out about 25mS for air delay alone. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 9:05 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PTP 650 Sets New Wireless Broadband Link Record of 245km Excellent point about the effect of delay on throughput. I had forgotten

Re: [AFMUG] PTP 650 Sets New Wireless Broadband Link Record of 245km

2015-08-10 Thread Adam Moffett
riginal message and all copies. *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett *Sent:* August 10, 2015 9:36 AM *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PTP 650 Sets New Wireless Broadband Link Record of 245km Am I reading that right,

Re: [AFMUG] PTP 650 Sets New Wireless Broadband Link Record of 245km

2015-08-10 Thread Mike Hammett
August 10, 2015 10:00:34 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PTP 650 Sets New Wireless Broadband Link Record of 245km Maybe the notable thing about this announcement is that the ranging mechanism went all the way to whatever air delay 245 km corresponds to. You’d think it would exceed max distance.

Re: [AFMUG] PTP 650 Sets New Wireless Broadband Link Record of 245km

2015-08-10 Thread Ken Hohhof
: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PTP 650 Sets New Wireless Broadband Link Record of 245km Cambiums issue, I think, is that they are playing two different markets and can't balance the two. Public Safety will pay those kind of ridiculous license fee structures while I don't think anyone

Re: [AFMUG] PTP 650 Sets New Wireless Broadband Link Record of 245km

2015-08-10 Thread Mike Hammett
x.com - Original Message - From: "Lewis Bergman" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 9:39:43 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PTP 650 Sets New Wireless Broadband Link Record of 245km Cambiums issue, I think, is that they are playing two different markets and can't bal

Re: [AFMUG] PTP 650 Sets New Wireless Broadband Link Record of 245km

2015-08-10 Thread Ron Marosko
ent: Monday, August 10, 2015 9:41 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PTP 650 Sets New Wireless Broadband Link Record of 245km Was that a slow CW beacon at 1 kW? From: Ron Marosko <mailto:r...@rjr-services.com> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 8:39 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [A

Re: [AFMUG] PTP 650 Sets New Wireless Broadband Link Record of 245km

2015-08-10 Thread Jaime Solorza
Cambium how puny a 245km link really is. ;-) > > > > …Ron NN5DX > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett > *Sent:* Monday, August 10, 2015 9:15 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PTP 650 Sets New Wireless Broadband L

Re: [AFMUG] PTP 650 Sets New Wireless Broadband Link Record of 245km

2015-08-10 Thread Lewis Bergman
offett > *Sent:* Monday, August 10, 2015 9:15 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PTP 650 Sets New Wireless Broadband Link Record of > 245km > > > > burrn > > On 8/10/2015 9:59 AM, Andreas Wiatowski wrote: > > Maybe it only has the Lite licens

Re: [AFMUG] PTP 650 Sets New Wireless Broadband Link Record of 245km

2015-08-10 Thread Chuck McCown
Was that a slow CW beacon at 1 kW? From: Ron Marosko Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 8:39 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PTP 650 Sets New Wireless Broadband Link Record of 245km Back in 1991, radio amateurs were able to set a narrowband distance record of 3,982km on 5760MHz utilizing

Re: [AFMUG] PTP 650 Sets New Wireless Broadband Link Record of 245km

2015-08-10 Thread Lewis Bergman
ix.com > > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > -- > > *From: *"Ray Savich" > *To: *"af@afmug.com" < af@afmug.c

Re: [AFMUG] PTP 650 Sets New Wireless Broadband Link Record of 245km

2015-08-10 Thread Ron Marosko
@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PTP 650 Sets New Wireless Broadband Link Record of 245km burrn On 8/10/2015 9:59 AM, Andreas Wiatowski wrote: Maybe it only has the Lite license. ;.> Cheers, __ Andreas Wiatowski | CEO Silo Wireless Inc. Email a

Re: [AFMUG] PTP 650 Sets New Wireless Broadband Link Record of 245km

2015-08-10 Thread Adam Moffett
*Mike Hammett *Sent:* August 10, 2015 9:36 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PTP 650 Sets New Wireless Broadband Link Record of 245km Am I reading that right, 45 MHz for 30 megabit? I know it's a long distance, but what was the throughput limitation? Signal to noise? What w

Re: [AFMUG] PTP 650 Sets New Wireless Broadband Link Record of 245km

2015-08-10 Thread Adam Moffett
;> *To: *"af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>" <mailto:af@afmug.com>> *Sent: *Wednesday, August 5, 2015 2:54:36 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] PTP 650 Sets New Wireless Broadband Link Record of 245km We were using 3 ft. standard performance dishes from tire-mount masts at 5.8 GHz.

Re: [AFMUG] PTP 650 Sets New Wireless Broadband Link Record of 245km

2015-08-10 Thread Andreas Wiatowski
us immediately and destroy the original message and all copies. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: August 10, 2015 9:36 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PTP 650 Sets New Wireless Broadband Link Record of 245km Am I reading that right, 45 MHz for 30 mega

Re: [AFMUG] PTP 650 Sets New Wireless Broadband Link Record of 245km

2015-08-10 Thread Mike Hammett
Lewis Bergman" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 8:39:20 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PTP 650 Sets New Wireless Broadband Link Record of 245km Please see subject line. I would suspect free space loss would be a major factor. On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 8:36 AM, Mike Hammett &

Re: [AFMUG] PTP 650 Sets New Wireless Broadband Link Record of 245km

2015-08-10 Thread Lewis Bergman
ange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > -- > *From: *"Ray Savich" > *To: *"af@afmug.com" > *Sent: *Wednesday, August 5, 2015 2:54:36 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] PTP 650 Sets New Wireless Broadband Link Record of > 245k

Re: [AFMUG] PTP 650 Sets New Wireless Broadband Link Record of 245km

2015-08-10 Thread Mike Hammett
l.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: "Ray Savich" To: "af@afmug.com" Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2015 2:54:36 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PTP 650 Sets New Wireless Broadband Link Record of 245km We were using 3 ft. st

Re: [AFMUG] PTP 650 Sets New Wireless Broadband Link Record of 245km

2015-08-05 Thread Daniel White
] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2015 10:15 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PTP 650 Sets New Wireless Broadband Link Record of 245km Does the article mention that earth curvature + Fresnel radius at that distance is 3072 feet? Hence going between mountain peaks. E

Re: [AFMUG] PTP 650 Sets New Wireless Broadband Link Record of 245km

2015-08-05 Thread Ray Savich
We were using 3 ft. standard performance dishes from tire-mount masts at 5.8 GHz. Ran the link at 5, 30 and 45 MHz channels and had receive signals of approximately -76 dBm even while battling some pretty heavy winds. We were running a high-def video link and a VoIP server over the channel.

Re: [AFMUG] PTP 650 Sets New Wireless Broadband Link Record of 245km

2015-08-05 Thread Ken Hohhof
the debates tomorrow. From: Lewis Bergman Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 10:45 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PTP 650 Sets New Wireless Broadband Link Record of 245km When someone mentions record in the same sentence with a microwave link I always think "unreliable". N