Re: [AFMUG] Strict NAT message on Xbox One?

2016-05-08 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
It truly is sad, with the potential that the invention of the internet created for mankind, the amount of time , effort and investment that isps have to put into troubleshooting videogames, video streaming, porn, etc. I'm a terrible human being, but humanity never ceases to depress me. Remember wh

Re: [AFMUG] Strict NAT message on Xbox One?

2016-05-08 Thread Justin Wilson
The only reason someone needs an open NAT is if they want to host the games themselves. It varies depending on the game because some games do a peer host. This is usually someone with the lowest latency connection. Everyone connects to this person to host the game. Gamers want to be this hos

Re: [AFMUG] Strict NAT message on Xbox One?

2016-05-08 Thread Jon Auer
It seems to vary by game. Playing first person shooters I noticed that audio wouldn't work reliably & I'd get dropped into games with undesirable latency characteristics. Pretty similar to VoIP and issues with one way audio, not being able to do reinvites, etc. I wish they'd just bypass all the NA

Re: [AFMUG] Strict NAT message on Xbox One?

2016-05-08 Thread Jon Auer
Yes, that's what we do for customers with Canopy SM NAT. On Sat, May 7, 2016 at 9:22 AM, Ty Featherling wrote: > Can you out them in the DMZ behind that radio? > On May 7, 2016 1:30 AM, "Jon Auer" wrote: > >> For game consoles you basically enable UPnP or deal with a bunch of port >> forwarding

Re: [AFMUG] Strict NAT message on Xbox One?

2016-05-08 Thread Ken Hohhof
Maybe this is the answer to my question “how can I get customers to pay extra for IPv6?” From: Glen Waldrop Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2016 7:08 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Strict NAT message on Xbox One? All of this is true. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2016 3:20 PM To

Re: [AFMUG] Strict NAT message on Xbox One?

2016-05-08 Thread Glen Waldrop
All of this is true. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2016 3:20 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Strict NAT message on Xbox One? It’s so annoying when a big company like Microsoft makes up nonstandard terms like open/moderate/strict NAT, without really explaining what those

Re: [AFMUG] Strict NAT message on Xbox One?

2016-05-08 Thread Ken Hohhof
PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Strict NAT message on Xbox One? My MUM presentation has some info on Xbox and Nat. I will be doing an expanded post in the near future to supplement the presentation. http://www.mtin.net/blog/?p=1178 Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net --- http

Re: [AFMUG] Strict NAT message on Xbox One?

2016-05-08 Thread Justin Wilson
My MUM presentation has some info on Xbox and Nat. I will be doing an expanded post in the near future to supplement the presentation. http://www.mtin.net/blog/?p=1178 Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net --- http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEO xISP Solutions- Consulting –

Re: [AFMUG] Strict NAT message on Xbox One?

2016-05-08 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
I assume a cpe is the same config as an air router. Our dump file sets an ip outside the dhcp pool in the air router as dmz. We just tell them the ip to set on their device, no problems thus far On May 7, 2016 9:22 AM, "Ty Featherling" wrote: > Can you out them in the DMZ behind that radio? > On

Re: [AFMUG] Strict NAT message on Xbox One?

2016-05-07 Thread Ty Featherling
Can you out them in the DMZ behind that radio? On May 7, 2016 1:30 AM, "Jon Auer" wrote: > For game consoles you basically enable UPnP or deal with a bunch of port > forwarding. > Xbox One is fairly sane. WiiU literally wants all of UDP forwarded. > > On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 11:19 PM, Michael Gawl

Re: [AFMUG] Strict NAT message on Xbox One?

2016-05-06 Thread Jon Auer
For game consoles you basically enable UPnP or deal with a bunch of port forwarding. Xbox One is fairly sane. WiiU literally wants all of UDP forwarded. On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 11:19 PM, Michael Gawlowski wrote: > Anyone had this issue? The customer is behind a ubiquiti running NAT with > the ubi

[AFMUG] Strict NAT message on Xbox One?

2016-05-06 Thread Michael Gawlowski
Anyone had this issue? The customer is behind a ubiquiti running NAT with the ubiquiti using a public IP behind one of our Mikrotik's. The Mikrotik does not have any ports blocked, either. Any ideas? Thank you, Michael Gawlowski Triad Wireless, LLC