[AFMUG] Trango

Does anyone know when the Trango next gen radios are going to hit the market? Where can I find a spec sheet?

Re: [AFMUG] Trango

to be high xmt power without consuming a ton of power, due to xmt predistortion, if I remember right from the WISPA show. -Original Message- From: Dan Petermann Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 9:44 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Trango Does anyone know when the Trango next gen

Re: [AFMUG] Trango

xmt > predistortion, if I remember right from the WISPA show. > > > -Original Message- From: Dan Petermann > Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 9:44 AM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: [AFMUG] Trango > > Does anyone know when the Trango next gen radios are going to hit the > market? > > Where can I find a spec sheet? > >

Re: [AFMUG] Trango

13 bits per symbol wow. Doesn’t take much noise to ruin your day. I wonder what the symbol rate is. From: Eric Kuhnke Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 4:16 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Trango Did somebody says more QAMs? https://twitter.com/ibelings/status/651162559089774592

Re: [AFMUG] Trango

Subject: [AFMUG] Trango Does anyone know when the Trango next gen radios are going to hit the market? Where can I find a spec sheet?

Re: [AFMUG] Trango

carrier cycles per baud. So more RF to accumulate but more more precision needed. This stuff fascinates me. From: Chuck McCown Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 4:26 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Trango 13 bits per symbol wow. Doesn’t take much noise to ruin your day. I wonder what

Re: [AFMUG] Trango

@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Trango 13 bits per symbol wow. Doesn’t take much noise to ruin your day. I wonder what the symbol rate is. From: Eric Kuhnke Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 4:16 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Trango Did somebody says more QAMs? https://twitter.com

Re: [AFMUG] Trango

According to something I read, square is more noise resistant. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 6:23 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Trango Do all these manufacturers really still use square constellations? I thought when you were trying to eek out every last dB of

Re: [AFMUG] Trango

@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Trango According to something I read, square is more noise resistant. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 6:23 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Trango Do all these manufacturers really still use square constellations? I thought when you were trying

Re: [AFMUG] Trango

I think the square separated the points from each other equally. I am surprised none of the RF designs use trellis coded modulation. That was all the rage back in the dial up modem days. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 8:46 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Trango

Re: [AFMUG] Trango

: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Trango I think the square separated the points from each other equally. I am surprised none of the RF designs use trellis coded modulation. That was all the rage back in the dial up modem days. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 8:46 PM To: af

Re: [AFMUG] Trango

4 rate code. Or SAF where they give you a > choice of weak or strong coding. > > I think all the cool kids are using turbo codes now? > > > *From:* Chuck McCown > *Sent:* Thursday, May 19, 2016 10:34 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Trango > > I thi

[AFMUG] Trango Interview

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sz-Shnyz6N0 - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP

[AFMUG] Trango Apex

I have a trango apex power supply that bit the dust. Says -48v on it. I don't have a spare -48v. Thoughts on quickest way to restore it to service? I got plenty of saf ones that show 48v.

[AFMUG] Trango Apex+

Does anyone know if the Apex+ antenna will take a regular Remec radio? Like the PTP800?

[AFMUG] Trango ODU

Sorry for the non-Friday post. Just cleaning up around the shop a bit. I have a Trango ODU that came from a broken ApexPlus OMU. Someone apparently dropped it and broke the N bulkhead off and cracked the PCB. The ODU was already removed. So the OMU went in the trash. I put this ODU onto anothe

[AFMUG] Trango Apex Issue

Twice a year for a few weeks we have a Trango Apex 11GHz link that acts up. Here is what we are seeing: Side 1: # linktest LOCK RSSI MSEBER TX RX 1> 0 -43.40 dBm -7.70 dB0.00E+00QPSK QPSK Side 2: # linktest

[AFMUG] Trango ApexPlus 3.1.5

Warning! If you have HW ID 1 ApexPlus OMUs, and you don't have the management cabled, do NOT load the new 3.1.5 software on them. It looks like the data port isn't configured for IBM at startup. Luckily I figured this out on the bench before trying this on deployed radios! I can see that IBM wo

[AFMUG] Trango StrataPro Xi

So I’m checking out the new Trango StrataPro data sheets… The Xi model appears to do 4Gbps full-duplex.. but no 10G SFP+.. So I’d have to use all three SFPs, and one copper gig to get it? Other notes: it appears they’re keying it up.. so you get to pay extra to unlock capacity to 1100Mbps and a

[AFMUG] Trango Security Issue

Yikes…. [+] Credits: Ian Ling [+] Website: iancaling.com [+] Source: http://blog.iancaling.com/post/153011925478/ Vendor: = www.trangosys.com Products: == All

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Interview

Adtran has made managed switches with 2.5G-Capable SFP ports for several years. On Mar 17, 2016 08:59, "Gino Villarini" wrote: > there are no 2.5 gbps capable switches... why is everyone missing the > boat on this? > > On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 9:47 AM, John Seaman wrote: > >> 2.5 Gbps Gino. (An

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Interview

Bad Gino! You know the rules! Gotta be here! On Thursday, March 17, 2016, Gino Villarini wrote: > can you periscope the conferences? > > On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 8:20 AM, Mike Hammett > wrote: > >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sz-Shnyz6N0 >> >> >> >> - >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Com

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Interview

2.5 Gbps Gino. (And 2 1 Gbps) On Thursday, March 17, 2016, Gino Villarini wrote: > no 10G sfp? > > On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 8:21 AM, Gino Villarini > wrote: > >> can you periscope the conferences? >> >> On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 8:20 AM, Mike Hammett > > wrote: >> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watc

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Interview

Chuck.. please continue to punish me... lol!!! On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 8:51 AM, Chuck Hogg wrote: > Bad Gino! You know the rules! Gotta be here! > > On Thursday, March 17, 2016, Gino Villarini wrote: > >> can you periscope the conferences? >> >> On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 8:20 AM, Mike Hammett

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Interview

can you periscope the conferences? On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 8:20 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sz-Shnyz6N0 > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > >

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Interview

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Re: [AFMUG] Trango Interview

Somebody we know is making one right now. They didn't have it in their booth, but it's critical to their next big product announcement. I can say no more :) On Mar 17, 2016 8:59 AM, "Gino Villarini" wrote: > there are no 2.5 gbps capable switches... why is everyone missing the > boat on this? >

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Interview

Oh. Follow up to this... Devices with 2.5G ports often have multiple 10G uplinks for throughput, uplinks, and redundancy. On Mar 17, 2016 9:07 AM, "Josh Reynolds" wrote: > So here's the deal... > > sfps will be cheaper, no doubt. The market for them is much larger. > > 2.5/5/25/50 are getting tr

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Interview

Hey you skipped out on my hometown bro! I'm offended lol :-P On Thursday, March 17, 2016, Gino Villarini wrote: > Chuck.. please continue to punish me... lol!!! > > On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 8:51 AM, Chuck Hogg > wrote: > >> Bad Gino! You know the rules! Gotta be here! >> >> On Thursday, March

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Interview

there are no 2.5 gbps capable switches... why is everyone missing the boat on this? On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 9:47 AM, John Seaman wrote: > 2.5 Gbps Gino. (And 2 1 Gbps) > > On Thursday, March 17, 2016, Gino Villarini wrote: > >> no 10G sfp? >> >> On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 8:21 AM, Gino Villarini

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Interview

no 10G sfp? On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 8:21 AM, Gino Villarini wrote: > can you periscope the conferences? > > On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 8:20 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sz-Shnyz6N0 >> >> >> >> - >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Interview

Mike thanks for taking the time to produce and post these videos! John Seaman | Sales | *Trango Systems, Inc. | * *+1-858-248-4006 <+1-858-248-4006> * | www.trangosys.com *[image: Trango Systems] * Upcoming Events: Certification Course: *www.t

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Interview

: "Jon Auer" To: "Animal Farm" Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 12:35:42 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Trango Interview Adtran has made managed switches with 2.5G-Capable SFP ports for several years. On Mar 17, 2016 08:59, "Gino Villarini" < ginovi...@gmail.com &

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Interview

Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "John Seaman" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 9:29:39 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Trango Interview Mike thanks for taking the time to produce and post these videos!

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Interview

: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 9:59 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Trango Interview there are no 2.5 gbps capable switches... why is everyone missing the boat on this? On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 9:47 AM, John Seaman mailto:j

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Interview

gt; Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 9:59 AM > To: Animal Farm > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Trango Interview > > > > there are no 2.5 gbps capable switches... why is everyone missing the boat > on this? > > > > On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 9:47 AM, John Seaman wrote: > >

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Interview

So here's the deal... sfps will be cheaper, no doubt. The market for them is much larger. 2.5/5/25/50 are getting traction in places where cabling is already in place - just change out the end point devices. I totally see both arguments and both make sense from a given perspective. On Mar 17, 20

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Interview

jeah but how common is this... vs just slapping a frigging sfp+ cage on the dam radio! On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 10:02 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > Somebody we know is making one right now. They didn't have it in their > booth, but it's critical to their next big product announcement. > > I can say

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Interview

acebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > -- > *From: *"John Seaman" > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Friday, March 18, 2016 9:29:39 AM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMU

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Interview

yes there are, Cisco is shipping copper NBaseT switches that do 2.5 or 5.0 Gbps on existing cat5e/cat6 now. They are not cheap though and it is still somewhat of a "pre-standard". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBASE-T On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 6:59 AM, Gino Villarini wrote: > there are no 2.5 g

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Interview

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Re: [AFMUG] Trango Apex

Most 48v supplies are floating on the output side. I regularly use Mean Well MDR-100-48's for failed Trango ApexPlus power supplies (which *do* have the +/0v side tied to the earth side of the AC cord, BTW). The big capacitor in those usually blow from heat. The MDR works fine with the + side g

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Apex

r -48VDC, +48VDC, or just 48VDC. -- Original Message -- From: "George Skorup" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 4/19/2017 9:22:31 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Trango Apex Most 48v supplies are floating on the output side. I regularly use Mean Well MDR-100-48's for failed Trango ApexPl

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Apex

I thought all the Trangos (Apex, Apex Plus, Apex Lynx) were +48V and they ground the - terminal? Opposite most others that declare -48V (and ground the + terminal). But "most" of them actually float both terminals. bp On 4/19/2017 6:22 PM, George Skorup wrote: Most 48v supplies are floatin

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Apex

Well, Bill, I tried to reply to your other thread from yesterday about this. Apparently it didn't make it to the list. All of the Trango stuff (Giga & Apex) has always been -48 and 0v/+ chassis bonded, no floating. On 4/19/2017 8:41 PM, Bill Prince wrote: I thought all the Trangos (Apex, Apex

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Apex

No I got it. It just didn't completely filter through my brain. The thing that I forgot was when I was trying to monitor through a SiteMonitor (which *__DOES__* ground the negative (-) terminal) and also supplying 48 volts to a Trango Apex. I kept popping fuses to the Trango until I figured ou

[AFMUG] Trango ApexPlus 11GHz

Anyone know for sure if Trango ApexPlus 11GHz is a Remec mount?

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Apex+

I like the looks of your flex conduit tied into the cap. I'm wondering is it difficult to take that off though? -- Original Message -- From: "Jeremy" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 6/22/2017 10:26:50 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Trango Apex+ Yes, they use a Remec style enclosur

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Apex+

The ApexPlus uses Remec OEM ODUs. All bands except 6GHz is Remec round. The PTP800 is also a Remec OEM, but I've never deployed any, so I don't know if the waveguide interface is the same. or are you asking about a Trango OEM antenna? ..or... are you trying to replace a failed ODU. I've do

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Apex+

Working on sumpin’ From: George Skorup Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 4:34 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Trango Apex+ The ApexPlus uses Remec OEM ODUs. All bands except 6GHz is Remec round. The PTP800 is also a Remec OEM, but I've never deployed any, so I don't k

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Apex+

Hey Chuck...Wednesday night on AxsTv... Fleetwood Mac Classic Album bio...program your recorder.. Jaime Solorza On Jun 22, 2017 4:34 PM, "George Skorup" wrote: > The ApexPlus uses Remec OEM ODUs. All bands except 6GHz is Remec round. > The PTP800 is also a Remec OEM, but I've never deployed any

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Apex+

ult to take that off though? > > > -- Original Message -- > From: "Jeremy" > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: 6/22/2017 10:26:50 AM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Trango Apex+ > > Yes, they use a Remec style enclosure. > [image: Inline image 1] > > On Thu, Jun

Re: [AFMUG] Trango ODU

Unrelated, is there an FCC ID on it? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "George Skorup" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 7:03:41 PM Subject: [AFMUG]

Re: [AFMUG] Trango ODU

brotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> *From: *"George Skorup" *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Tuesday, September 19, 2017 7:03:41 PM *Subject: *[AFMUG] Trango ODU Sorry for the non-Friday post. Just cleaning up around the shop a bit. I hav

Re: [AFMUG] Trango ODU

- Original Message - From: "George Skorup" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 8:11:28 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Trango ODU Don't have it in front of me right now, but I don't think so. Part 101 gear is self certified by the OEM, or whoever they hi

Re: [AFMUG] Trango ODU

*From: *"George Skorup" *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Tuesday, September 19, 2017 8:11:28 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Trango ODU Don't have it in front of me right now, but I don't think so. Part 101 gear is self certified by the OEM, or whoever th

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Apex Issue

@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Trango Apex Issue Twice a year for a few weeks we have a Trango Apex 11GHz link that acts up. Here is what we are seeing: Side 1: # linktest LOCK RSSI MSEBER TX RX 1> 0 -43.40 dBm -7.70

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Apex Issue

Does a reboot of one end or both fix it? Really looks like interference at your Side 1. Link lock = 0 and high MSE while your RSSI is normal. On 12/11/2015 12:34 PM, can...@believewireless.net wrote: Twice a year for a few weeks we have a Trango Apex 11GHz link that acts up. Here is what we are

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Apex Issue

which is more than just some low level interference keeping you from achieving full modulation. The other possibility is a radio problem. *From:* mailto:p...@believewireless.net *Sent:* Friday, December 11, 2015 12:34 PM *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Trango

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Apex Issue

roblem. > > > *From:* mailto:p...@believewireless.net > > *Sent:* Friday, December 11, 2015 12:34 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* [AFMUG] Trango Apex Issue > > Twice a year for a few weeks we have a Trango Apex 11GHz link that acts > up. Here is what we a

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Apex Issue

Paul, Hit me off list, I’ll take a look at it for you. Tim From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of can...@believewireless.net Sent: Friday, December 11, 2015 4:11 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Trango Apex Issue A reboot doesn't fix it. On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 2:

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Apex Issue

Or maybe it's Chuck doing a test? bp On 12/11/2015 11:49 AM, George Skorup wrote: Does a reboot of one end or both fix it? Really looks like interference at your Side 1. Link lock = 0 and high MSE while your RSSI is normal. On 12/11/2015 12:34 PM, can...@believewireless.net wrote: Twice a y

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Apex Issue

Nice. I recall that thread. On 12/11/2015 4:42 PM, Bill Prince wrote: Or maybe it's Chuck doing a test? bp On 12/11/2015 11:49 AM, George Skorup wrote: Does a reboot of one end or both fix it? Really looks like interference at your Side 1. Link lock = 0 and high MSE while your RSSI is nor

[AFMUG] Trango stratalink 24 sale

Trango's web shop is selling Stratalink 24 full links for about $4100 a set with 1' dishes... Not bad considering what it is, it's a 1024QAM radio. 750 Mbps full duplex in a 60 MHz wide single polarity (linear) channel, or narrower options suitable for 300-500 Mbps DIA type business customers. Th

[AFMUG] Trango vs UBNT 24G

Anyone got any opinions which they’d use for a new deployment? Are the UBNT links solid or do they fall on their face at capacity? Are the Trango’s solid? Any others I should be looking at in 24G? What’s your experience?

Re: [AFMUG] Trango StrataPro Xi

I'm pretty sure they're using two radios to get 4Gbps, so I guess you'd probably be using two SFP's on each one. On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 12:41 PM, Cassidy B. Larson wrote: > So I’m checking out the new Trango StrataPro data sheets… The Xi model > appears to do 4Gbps full-duplex.. but no 10G SFP+.

Re: [AFMUG] Trango StrataPro Xi

Check with John, but I thought he said something about a 2.5Gbps SFP, not sure why they did not go 10G Erich Kaiser North Central Tower er...@northcentraltower.com Office: 630-621-4804 Cell: 630-777-9291 On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 12:41 PM, Cassidy B. Larson wrote: > So I’m checking out the n

Re: [AFMUG] Trango StrataPro Xi

There are such things as 2.5 Gbps SFPs used for fiber channel storage array applications (example: Cisco MDS9000) but you will not see them used in ethernet speaking routers/switches. On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 2:10 PM, Erich Kaiser wrote: > Check with John, but I thought he said something about a 2

Re: [AFMUG] Trango StrataPro Xi

Just telling you what he told me at the showI did bitch about it right away :) Erich Kaiser North Central Tower er...@northcentraltower.com Office: 630-621-4804 Cell: 630-777-9291 On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 4:17 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > There are such things as 2.5 Gbps SFPs used for fiber ch

Re: [AFMUG] Trango StrataPro Xi

Hello and thanks for the questions. The StrataPro does have one 2.5 Gbps SFP cage (along with 3 other GigE ports), but so far we have not qualified a suitable 2.5 Gbps SFP. That is something we are working on. The Xi model is capable of 2 Gbps FDD (4 Gbps aggregate) so that currently requires usi

Re: [AFMUG] Trango StrataPro Xi

Can I ask what was the reason for the decision to go with a 2.5 Gbps SFP cage instead of SFP+? I do not have a single router in any network I support capable of native 2.5 Gbps SFP. Such an interface is incredibly rare in layer 3 IP network deployments. If it had an SFP+ interface it would be tri

Re: [AFMUG] Trango StrataPro Xi

what's the cost of these radios? On 6/9/2016 4:35 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: Can I ask what was the reason for the decision to go with a 2.5 Gbps SFP cage instead of SFP+? I do not have a single router in any network I support capable of native 2.5 Gbps SFP. Such an interface is incredibly rare

Re: [AFMUG] Trango StrataPro Xi

crickets... bp On 6/9/2016 2:57 PM, Keefe John wrote: what's the cost of these radios? On 6/9/2016 4:35 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: Can I ask what was the reason for the decision to go with a 2.5 Gbps SFP cage instead of SFP+? I do not have a single router in any network I support capable of

Re: [AFMUG] Trango StrataPro Xi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l91ISfcuzDw On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 3:17 PM, Bill Prince wrote: > crickets... > > > bp > > > > On 6/9/2016 2:57 PM, Keefe John wrote: > > what's the cost of these radios? > > On 6/9/2016 4:35 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > > Can I ask what was the reason for the decisio

Re: [AFMUG] Trango StrataPro Xi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTmXHvGZiSY bp On 6/9/2016 3:28 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l91ISfcuzDw On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 3:17 PM, Bill Prince > wrote: crickets... bp On 6/9/2016 2:57 PM, Keefe John wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] Trango StrataPro Xi

This thread reminded me that I needed to check into these... it's probably best to just email John and get a price, but they're actually pretty reasonable, in my opinion. On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 5:17 PM, Bill Prince wrote: > crickets... > > > bp > > > > On 6/9/2016 2:57 PM, Keefe John wrote: > >

Re: [AFMUG] Trango StrataPro Xi

ne 9, 2016 4:35:22 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Trango StrataPro Xi Can I ask what was the reason for the decision to go with a 2.5 Gbps SFP cage instead of SFP+? I do not have a single router in any network I support capable of native 2.5 Gbps SFP. Such an interface is incredibly rare in laye

Re: [AFMUG] Trango StrataPro Xi

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Re: [AFMUG] Trango StrataPro Xi

Hi John, the MSRP is actually printed on the datasheets which you can download from our website https://www.trangosys.com/products/stratapro-series/ Of course there are discounts for service providers. Hit me off list for more info. Thanks, John Seaman | Sales | *Trango Systems, Inc. | * *+1-858

Re: [AFMUG] Trango StrataPro Xi

Adtran NetVanta 1544 Ethernet switches (24xGigE, 4xSFP) have been 2.5G capable since 2009. On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 4:17 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > There are such things as 2.5 Gbps SFPs used for fiber channel storage > array applications (example: Cisco MDS9000) but you will not see them used > in

Re: [AFMUG] Trango StrataPro Xi

manufacturers make the weirdest decisions... On Saturday, June 11, 2016, Jon Auer wrote: > Adtran NetVanta 1544 Ethernet switches (24xGigE, 4xSFP) have been 2.5G > capable since 2009. > > On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 4:17 PM, Eric Kuhnke > wrote: > >> There are such things as 2.5 Gbps SFPs used for f

Re: [AFMUG] Trango StrataPro Xi

Switch? If people do layer 2 over $6,000+ microwave for backbone links between two POPs, that is a really bad idea in my opinion. WISPs love to build layer 2 clusterfucks because a lot of small ones start with basically no OSPF or BGP knowledge. Show me a real router platform that is in common us

Re: [AFMUG] Trango StrataPro Xi

There -could- be a router doing L3 behind the switch. It's not that uncommon, right? On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 9:17 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > Switch? If people do layer 2 over $6,000+ microwave for backbone links > between two POPs, that is a really bad idea in my opinion. WISPs love to > build l

Re: [AFMUG] Trango StrataPro Xi

The NetVana 1544 is also a L3 Switch and does OSPF/BGP too! Heh. > On Jun 13, 2016, at 7:26 PM, Josh Baird wrote: > > There -could- be a router doing L3 behind the switch. It's not that > uncommon, right? > > On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 9:17 PM, Eric Kuhnke > wrote

Re: [AFMUG] Trango StrataPro Xi

A thing that is barely more capable than a Cisco 3750G (which can do static L3 routes or iBGP) is NOT a real router. It's a switch. Show me any serious routing platform from Cisco, Juniper, alcatel-lucent, huawei or ZTE that does 2.5G SFP. On Jun 13, 2016 6:44 PM, "Cassidy B. Larson" wrote:The Ne

Re: [AFMUG] Trango StrataPro Xi

Yeah, sure, if your design goal is to make your L3 backbone harder to troubleshoot and more failure prone in chains of non-redundant devices. I suppose I could put a 48 port 1000BaseT switch in front of each router and put the microwave PTP linked OSPF /30 BB interfaces each on their own vlan, with

Re: [AFMUG] Trango StrataPro Xi

I am missing something here. What is wrong with using a $6000 microwave as a piece of long CAT 5? Point A to Point B extending your reach. Why complicate it with layer 3? From: Eric Kuhnke Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 7:17 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Trango StrataPro Xi Switch

Re: [AFMUG] Trango StrataPro Xi

main small. -- Original Message -- From: "Chuck McCown" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 6/14/2016 10:27:33 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Trango StrataPro Xi I am missing something here. What is wrong with using a $6000 microwave as a piece of long CAT 5? Point A to Point B extending your reach

Re: [AFMUG] Trango StrataPro Xi

3 so as an ISP you might as well just start where you're going to end up anyway.   It's also safer to keep the broadcast domain small.       -- Original Message -- From: "Chuck McCown" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 6/14/2016 10:27:33 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Trango StrataPro X

Re: [AFMUG] Trango StrataPro Xi

ginal Message - From: "Gino Villarini" To: af@afmug.com, af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 10:40:39 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Trango StrataPro Xi as a SP, you want MPLS Get Outlook for iOS On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 5:06 PM +0200, "Adam Moffett" < dmmoff...

Re: [AFMUG] Trango StrataPro Xi

The maximum data rate of the original SFP (not SFP+) is 5Gbps. http://www.fibertronics-store.com/SFP-Transceiver-Module-2125-25Gbps-Singlemode-1310nm-10km-SFP-LX-SM-0310.htm;jsessionid=C0567AE6A1D4557BB5A62DA702510539.m1plqscsfapp02?gclid=Cj0KEQjw1v66BRCV-6rh6s-Biu8BEiQAelpui52zXMUfBX3fY-sliWxvVsG

Re: [AFMUG] Trango StrataPro Xi

& Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net > From: "Eric Kuhnke" > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 9:49:53 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Trango StrataPro Xi >

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; > :) > > Faisal Imtiaz > Snappy Internet & Telecom > 7266 SW 48 Street > Miami, FL 33155 > Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 > > Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net > > -- > > *From: *"Eric Kuhn

Re: [AFMUG] Trango StrataPro Xi

5518 x 232 > > Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net > > -- > > *From: *"Eric Kuhnke" > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Monday, June 13, 2016 9:49:53 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Trango StrataPro Xi > > Yeah, sure, if your design goal is

Re: [AFMUG] Trango StrataPro Xi

- Original Message - From: "Eric Kuhnke" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 6:05:46 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Trango StrataPro Xi I very much doubt that it's intended as OC-48 capacity SONET/SDH transport... Based on previous experience with the higher

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232 > > Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net > > From: "Eric Kuhnke" mailto:eric.kuh...@gmail.com>> > To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> > Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 9:49:53 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Trango StrataPro

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Security Issue

Why didn't Trango announce this to customers? On Sat, Nov 12, 2016 at 7:09 AM, Paul Stewart wrote: > Yikes…. > > > > [+] Credits: Ian Ling > [+] Website: iancaling.com > [+] Source: http://blog.iancaling.com/post/153011925478/ > > Vendor: > = > www.trangosys.com > > Products: > =

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Security Issue

that answer varies … they could be not acknowledging this, they could still be trying to figure it out …. hard to tell with vendors - some of them are great at dealing with this kind of stuff and some put their head in the sand …. Also - this notice doesn’t mean 100% that it’s actually correct …

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Security Issue

Hopefully everyone has their management subnets firewalled away from any unauthorized users.. On 11/12/2016 6:09 AM, Paul Stewart wrote: Yikes…. [+] Credits: Ian Ling [+] Website: iancaling.com [+] Source: http://blog.iancaling.com/post/153011925478/ Vendor: =

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Security Issue

One good thing about the Ubiquiti worm(s) is that any network operator who lacked the sense or experience to do so has hopefully fixed things up. On Sat, Nov 12, 2016 at 7:53 AM, Simon Westlake wrote: > Hopefully everyone has their management subnets firewalled away from any > unauthorized users

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