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On 2020-02-05 13:22:PM, Matt Mahoney wrote or quoted:
Occam's razor also likely
when you hit 3 - 0, you have to make a life decision now to go do something
with your life.
That very day, I had this strange urge that i could get infinite compression +
computing power together just from using subtraction!
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I'm 24.5 years old :D
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how old are u ID. because if your as old as i think you are, your going pretty
good for your age.
Dont worry about other guys your age looking better than you, if you ever
choose to go for your big finale, could come later!
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I've never done drugs, yet, :p Just fries Ev daY. i could die... :p
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yeh but after youve gone through a pound of pot how clear are you thinkin' then?
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However yeah like I said in my PL idea Goto can do a lot of things, though it
may be too low level.
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See you are messy person I knew it look; searching Google I get:
"No, Python does not support labels and goto, if that is what you're after.
It's a (highly) structured programming language. Python offers you the ability
to do some of the things you could do with a goto using first class function
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/19827643/how-to-get-asm-to-jump-to-a-variable-address-in-c
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hey lockster, hire a guy to make the c converter for your programming language,
and then you can use it for real.
goto is better than break because u control the exit position.
and i swear if you ever had "goto x" (variable jump) its a complete programming
language in itself. does anything.
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read/writes files i can use the code below, and to open your block code
paste/save the XML code btw.
split by each char only 3 times slower
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pttt
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https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/566/is-using-goto-ever-worthwhile
Check the Functions Tab guys heh heh, u can DO something and call it baby CALL
IT!! ~
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The higher the goto density in a large block of source code,
the more likelihood of greater Kolmogorov complexity of said code that you
reluctantly agreed to maintain... seems like. So, after a skilled coder gets
frustrated, he or she thus attempts to reduce the complexity, cleans it up, so
that ot
mad goto skillz you learn in your formative years. :)
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Exactly. It allows you to go deep with confidence because you know you can bail
at any time. And it's in C#.
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if you get yourself in trouble in a big scoped nest, you can make a break for
it with a goto statement, STILL! in ansi c!!
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What Blockly has no goto? How could you create an AGI without goto.,, pffft.
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On Thursday, February 06, 2020, at 8:24 AM, TimTyler wrote:
> all sequences of a given length are
> equiprobable.
yes. that is pure random noise.
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On 2020-02-05 13:22:PM, Matt Mahoney wrote or quoted:
Occam's razor also likely applies in toy finite worlds, such as
those modeled by
cellular automata.
I don't think it has much to do with infinity.
Turing machines are useful models of computation even though they
cannot ex
At least not in full.
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No it's the opposite, we need sharing and caring. I'm not seeing it from yous
either.
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YES ID GET YOUR FINGERS TAPPING!!! then you get to keep all your ideas
secret, telling ppl them is a losing game.
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I'm currently constructing my AGI prototype here >
https://blockly-demo.appspot.com/static/demos/code/index.html#ht2ard
Using Blockly I've learned programming instantly. Previously I was hiring
programmers.
You have to tweak some things in real code but it's easy.
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yes gets nasty, especially if you dont get past 2^30 for the number of primes
in a haul. its got to at least be 2^120, then we are looking a little freer in
the luncheon area. =)
And they see this, and all the non-free lunchers all say you cant do it. hehe
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Breathing is free lunch. Perhaps all that happens on Earth is free lunch,
what's it matter if a rock is slit or a fly bites you or you clone your liver?
You have no control of the future I mean you do, lots, but no Free Will, and so
what happens happens and all is machines. So there's no free lu
prime numbers are not random, they are free lunch. heheheh
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Glad you enjoyed.
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haha very fun questions.
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Thats lovely ID, its very exciting being here in a way, as well as horribly
painful, i can never decide if it was worth it...
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How smart are you?
https://forms.gle/gXsdLWZS326E3Vgn8
Note if the one question I made is ambiguous, use the first question part of it
ex. "are we safe or not safe?" Yes/No? So use the first part "are we safe".
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Using a computer you can do anything in it, like a universe creator. You can
clone brains, control the future, rewind time. Of course in the computer or
brain as well there is no actual simulated cake or images or tastes etc, but
when your body moves you show your true colors. So the 1s & 0s do
if you can spot a .51 and know its a 1, the child when it is its turn to make
the child, gets to reset the error each generation, so it never gets old,
after aons and aons it would still be correct. :)
just thought of that one...
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Yes, I’ve eked away at pieces of it intermittently like 20 times and it's a
treasure trove. But I find it difficult to believe that it will hold up, I've
actually never seen a proof so elaborate like that... and so... sparse? but
dense.
Will take time to absorb… pretty amazing piece of work. Su
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILta22mMRHU
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P.S. when I said "Predict The Next Atom" above I meant no neural nets, just
physics of matter to grow a baby. Think about it, a baby grows from a small
cell cluster based on, context, the conditions.
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Humans's actions that make the future are based on past data/causes.
Cause>effect. Our Working Memory context/agents are the cause of the future. We
make it what we want or think will happen. So yes AGI=prediction. If you have
barely any data at all you will be so dumb like an infant trusting th
On Wed, Feb 5, 2020, 11:20 AM John Rose wrote:
> The paper is an attempted proof of MIP*=RE.
>
> The consciousness aspect is just me suggesting an intelligence topology
> optimizes on a communication fabric :)
>
Did you read the paper?
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On Wed, Feb 5, 2020, 7:08 AM TimTyler wrote:
> On 2020-02-03 13:38:PM, Matt Mahoney wrote:
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> > Why does Occam's Razor exist? Because you can't have a uniform
> > distribution over an infinite set. All possible distributions favor
> > short strings over long, or small integers over large. For an
Korrelan is supposed to be a high tech guru. Yet he says
statistics/prediction/language isn't AGI and rather the foundation/ low level
transistor neuralism is where the AGI is. This is wrong. The future of Earth is
the next evolution of physics, which is predictable based on large
data/statisti
Perhaps you don't understand me and have misinterpreted what I wrote, both are
valid. K:)
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The paper is an attempted proof of MIP*=RE.
The consciousness aspect is just me suggesting an intelligence topology
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You obviously don't understand Legg.
On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 9:34 AM korrelan wrote:
> @James
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> Seriously? That’s the example/ narrow pigeon-hole argument you are going
> to use? That’s what prediction means to you?
>
> Your example is a calculated sequence, the answer derived from the next
> l
The abstract doesn't say anything about consciousness.
On Wed, Feb 5, 2020, 7:16 AM John Rose wrote:
> See this really reinforces my beliefs; multiple wetware general
> intelligences discussing the compression of a particular chunk of data
> (enwik8), an example in classical communication comple
@James
Seriously? That’s the example/ narrow pigeon-hole
argument you are going to use? That’s what prediction means to you?
Your example is a calculated sequence, the answer
derived from the next logical calculation; it cannot be found from the prior
sequence, hence the whole concept of predic
On Tuesday, February 04, 2020, at 6:23 AM, Danko Nikolic wrote:
> I'll buy you a lunch if we ever meet in person. So, you can count this one
> too.
>
> Danko
Ya, but i have to put energy into my arm and mouth to chew the food. And
generate
the acid for digestion. So you are in the wrong frame o
On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 7:23 AM korrelan wrote:
> ...
>
> And whilst I’m here Legg is also wrong… there is indeed an elegant/ simple
> universal theory of prediction and intelligence for that matter. Prediction
> is not a mathematical formula/ algorithm, the bow wave of a ship accurately
> predic
BTW the whole ‘no search is better than random’
argument is moot, it’s negated by a schema that doesn’t have to search, where
all required ‘relative’ data is instantly available.
https://youtu.be/OO8lR3j1Vfc
And whilst I’m here Legg is also wrong… there
is indeed an elegant/ simple universal th
Hi I’ve been paying attention and thought I’d
throw my own pennies worth into the mix.
The problem with any human derived idea/ theorem
like ‘no free lunch’ is that… it’s formulated/ constructed by humans, and as
such can only be applied using the depth/ expanse of our own knowledge,
understandin
See this really reinforces my beliefs; multiple wetware general intelligences
discussing the compression of a particular chunk of data (enwik8), an example
in classical communication complexity. My belief is that conscious agents
compress better than non-conscious agents and are capable of more
On 2020-02-03 13:38:PM, Matt Mahoney wrote:
Why does Occam's Razor exist? Because you can't have a uniform
distribution over an infinite set. All possible distributions favor
short strings over long, or small integers over large. For any string,
you have an infinite set of longer and less like
one more thing. is it doesnt matter how computational the transform is for
the rules of the system, the only outputs you can get is 2^inputs, the
actual transform from I to O is actually disregarded, and only the permutations
of the input can be the amount of output possibilities.
OUTPUTS
John Rose you are right. most of the exponent of the states for any space
arent even possible to get to! because it must maintain the rules of the
system, so alot of states (and im saying more than half of them) arent even
accessed, because they are impossibilities.
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Stefans right, the complexity of a sequence is only limited to how many
things created it! (could just be some lines of code.)
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