RE: [agi] Discovering the Capacity of Human Memory

2003-09-16 Thread James Rogers
I'm literally doing about 5-way multitasking today, all "important" things that demand my attention. It seems that my email time-slice is under-performing under the circumstances. Cheers, -James Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- To unsubscribe, change your address, or temporarily de

RE: [agi] Discovering the Capacity of Human Memory

2003-09-16 Thread James Rogers
world of difference between the number of patterns that can be encoded and the size of the biggest pattern that can be encoded; the former isn't terribly important, but the latter is very important. Cheers, -James Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- To unsubscribe, change your address

Re: [agi] Web Consciousness and self consciousness

2003-09-06 Thread James Rogers
bombarded with indirect evidence of its existence. I would say that consciousness is at its essence a purely inferred self-model, which naturally requires a fairly large machine to support the model. Cheers, -James Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- To unsubscribe, change your address, or temporari

RE: [agi] Early AGI training - multiple communications channels / multi-tasking

2003-09-03 Thread James Rogers
ve no real analog in wetware. This will be one of the clear advantages of silicon over evolutionary wetware; we can design systems and protocols capable of fine-grained parallel resource sharing between contexts. But I agree, it would definitely be useful to have these things in wetware. :-) Ch

RE: [agi] Educating Novababies

2003-07-14 Thread James Rogers
es it mix in relevant data, it also tends to internally generate data that it infers *should* exist. One of the many reasons eyewitness testimony tends to have a mediocre track record for mapping to reality. Cheers, -James Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- To unsubscribe, change your address,

Re: Selectively supporting the safest advanced tech [Re: [agi]Playing with fire]

2003-03-03 Thread James Rogers
ors in the system. The system breaks badly when you have extreme disparities in the intelligence of the actors because you are breaking one of the underlying assumptions of the framework that is required for it to function usefully. -James Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- To unsubscribe, chang

RE: [agi] "doubling time" watcher.

2003-02-18 Thread James Rogers
foiled again... -James Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- To unsubscribe, change your address, or temporarily deactivate your subscription, please go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [agi] AIXI and Solomonoff induction

2003-02-13 Thread James Rogers
tarts from the beginning of the field; you should have no problems accessing the content. It is a well-written book, which is a good thing since it is sort of THE text for the field with few other choices. Cheers, -James Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- To unsubscribe, change your address,

Re: Occam's Razor (was Re: [agi] AIXI and Solomonoff induction)

2003-02-13 Thread James Rogers
On 2/13/03 7:06 PM, "Cliff Stabbert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wednesday, February 12, 2003, 2:08:04 PM, James Rogers wrote: > JR> And it works with life as well as anything else. Consciousness does not > JR> affect its intrinsic efficacy if used correctly. &g

Occam's Razor (was Re: [agi] AIXI and Solomonoff induction)

2003-02-12 Thread James Rogers
e pedestrian "simplest answer is always right" definition falls a bit short. And it works with life as well as anything else. Consciousness does not affect its intrinsic efficacy if used correctly. Cheers, -James Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- To unsubscribe, change your address,

Re: [agi] AIXI and Solomonoff induction

2003-02-11 Thread James Rogers
easily written a good sized book on the topic without covering any ground that had already been covered in writing somewhere else. From my point of view it is worth the effort to learn though. Cheers, -James Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- To unsubscribe, change your address, or temporarily

Re: [agi] A thought.

2003-02-05 Thread James Rogers
intelligence that is matched to a particular environment, you want a general intelligence that will match itself to ANY environment. -James Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- To unsubscribe, change your address, or temporarily deactivate your subscription, please go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [agi] Go and the translation problem.

2003-01-25 Thread James Rogers
attacking the problem of Go pretty much in this way. Of course, being able to do easy abstraction manipulation at many levels simultaneously with imprecise and partial patterns is one of the better tools in my tool chest so I like to use it. Old saws about every problem looking like a nail notwithst

Re: Re[2]: [agi] Turing Tournament

2003-01-22 Thread James Rogers
w, so I'm not spending a lot of time on it. My work plate is overloaded by about a factor of 3. But eventually... -James Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- To unsubscribe, change your address, or temporarily deactivate your subscription, please go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [agi] AI and computation (was: The Next Wave)

2003-01-12 Thread James Rogers
occur, and if you assume that the function will be static during the recursion you may be surprised. And just to be clear, its obviously a Turing machine since it runs on Turing machines and you can run any Turing machine on it. It is just very different from normal conceptions of universal computers.

Re: [agi] AI and computation (was: The Next Wave)

2003-01-11 Thread James Rogers
al computer architectures will quite happily do infinite computation, much to my embarrassment. ;-) Cheers, -James Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- To unsubscribe, change your address, or temporarily deactivate your subscription, please go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [agi] AI and computation (was: The Next Wave)

2003-01-11 Thread James Rogers
doing some types of computation that conventional universal computation architectures do very well, so there is something of a trade-off. To put it another way, it is possible to write a universal virtual machine that runs on standard silicon that is not itself reducible to silicon using

Re: [agi] OS and AGI

2003-01-10 Thread James Rogers
t the universe doesn't care what I want and so I get right to it. Seems rational to me. I do find Alan's abject incredulity that anyone would want to use Unix humorous though. :-) Cheers, -James Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- To unsubscribe, change your address, or temporarily deactivate your subscription, please go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [agi] OS and AGI

2003-01-10 Thread James Rogers
ign a silicon brain perhaps you should learn how silicon systems actually work, no? Cheers, -James Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- To unsubscribe, change your address, or temporarily deactivate your subscription, please go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?[EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [agi] OS and AGI

2003-01-10 Thread James Rogers
ic internal details that a real operating system also includes. -James Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- To unsubscribe, change your address, or temporarily deactivate your subscription, please go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?[EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [agi] The Next Wave

2003-01-10 Thread James Rogers
rous forums and so it is worth bringing up. All this does not preclude a smaller machine from having a very good predictive model of a larger machine. Just not a perfect one. Cheers, -James Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- To unsubscribe, change your address, or temporarily deactivate yo

Re: [agi] Friendliness toward humans

2003-01-10 Thread James Rogers
erences that people have? If you spent as much time learning how to actually use operating systems as you spend complaining about your inability to use them... -James Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- To unsubscribe, change your address, or temporarily deactivate your subscription, please go

Re: [agi] Moore's law data - defining HEC

2003-01-06 Thread James Rogers
ore on the "fast and stupid" side of the curve than the "slow but smart" side of the curve if balanced for existing architectures. Cheers, -James Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- To unsubscribe, change your address, or temporarily deactivate your subscription, please go

Re: [agi] Diminished impact of Moore's Law on AGI due to otherbottlenecks

2003-01-04 Thread James Rogers
hese types of chips. Ultimately, we'd like to move the code to something like this, and since there is no design or performance cost to only using integers on standard PCs (they work better anyway in our case), we haven't introduced floating point into the kernel without a good reason.

Re: [agi] Diminished impact of Moore's Law on AGI due to otherbottlenecks

2003-01-04 Thread James Rogers
software problem. The hardware problems and limitations, such as they are, are resolving themselves just fine. The software on the other hand... -James Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- To unsubscribe, change your address, or temporarily deactivate your subscription, please go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [agi] AI on TV

2002-12-09 Thread James Rogers
development trajectory unless you believe that (3) or (4) are an absolute minimum for the system to work at all (obviously I don't). Cheers, -James Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- To unsubscribe, change your address, or temporarily deactivate your subscription, please go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [agi] general patterns induction

2002-12-09 Thread James Rogers
undations for everything you'll need to know so that YOU can be deeply speculative. ;-) I don't use my copy much any more, but it is a good bible to have around. Cheers, -James Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- To unsubscribe, change your address, or temporarily deactivate your subscription, please go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [agi] general patterns induction

2002-12-08 Thread James Rogers
correctly surmised is an integral part of statistical compression engines. There are difficulties with what you want to do, which I will let you discover on your own (its educational). :-) Cheers, -James Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sun, 2002-12-08 at 18:33, Pablo wrote: > I'm looki

RE: [agi] How wrong are these numbers?

2002-12-03 Thread James Rogers
using massive DSP clusters, which are actually designed to be used like this. Alternatively, a PC cluster could work as well if you used very low latency switch fabrics (like Myrinet or similar), but would cost a bit of money. -James Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- To unsubscribe, change y

RE: [agi] An idea for promoting AI development.

2002-12-01 Thread James Rogers
uperior to either Linux or Windows for this purpose if you get down to it. Mixing the best of FreeBSD and NeXT couldn't help but to create a very nice operating system. Okay, I think this is sufficiently off-topic now... -James Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- To unsubscribe, change your address, or temporarily deactivate your subscription, please go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?[EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [agi] An idea for promoting AI development.

2002-12-01 Thread James Rogers
feel like a single machine without having to write special code in you application. Normal process limits still apply of course, they just aren't limited by the specific limits of the machine they may have been started on. -James Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- To unsubscribe, change your a

RE: [agi] An idea for promoting AI development.

2002-11-30 Thread James Rogers
ience with both, but I see no compelling reason to choose Windows for AI. As a pragmatic issue, Windows is worse on the code maintenance side in my experience, and Unix is clearly a better OS for certain types of apps. You could write your app on Windows, but I'd want it to be able to run on Unix. -James Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- To unsubscribe, change your address, or temporarily deactivate your subscription, please go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [agi] An idea for promoting AI development.

2002-11-29 Thread James Rogers
(i.e. I/O, processes, memory management, and so forth -- high level candy is largely irrelevant). And good Windows code has the annoying feature of being largely not portable. But at the end of the day, use whatever floats your boat. -James Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- To unsubs

RE: [agi] A point of philosophy, rather than engineering

2002-11-13 Thread James Rogers
en there is the problem of defining "language" for this purpose, since it is more of a gradient than a discrete thing, much like "intelligence". -James Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- To unsubscribe, change your address, or temporarily deactivate your subscription, please go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/

Re: [agi] A point of philosophy, rather than engineering

2002-11-11 Thread James Rogers
An analogy would be how they learned new skills on-the-fly in "The Matrix". The integration is a freebie that comes with the underlying architecture, not something that I spent much effort designing. Cheers, -James Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- To unsubscribe, change your address, or temporarily deactivate your subscription, please go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/

RE: [agi] Spatial Reasoning: Modal or Amodal?

2002-11-06 Thread James Rogers
On Wed, 2002-11-06 at 19:24, Ben Goertzel wrote: > James Rogers wrote: > > You would quite obviously be correct about the tractability if someone > > actually tried to brute force the entire algorithm space in L. The > > knowability factor means that we don't alw

RE: [agi] Spatial Reasoning: Modal or Amodal?

2002-11-06 Thread James Rogers
On Sun, 2002-11-03 at 19:19, Ben Goertzel wrote: > James Rogers wrote: > > In practice, the > > exponent can be > > sufficiently small (and much smaller than I think most people > > believe) that > > it becomes tractable for at least human-level AGI on silicon (my

Re: [agi] Spatial Reasoning: Modal or Amodal?

2002-11-03 Thread James Rogers
dvanced than I can talk about without lawyers getting involved. It is sufficiently sexy that it has attracted quite a bit of smart Silicon Valley capital, which is no small feat for any company over the last year or two, never mind any outfit working with "AI". Cheers, -James Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- To unsubscribe, change your address, or temporarily deactivate your subscription, please go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/

Re: [agi] Spatial Reasoning: Modal or Amodal?

2002-11-03 Thread James Rogers
at liberty to talk about this (or a number of other things for that matter) in detail or I would. I apologize if I can't fully explain some of the assertions I might make. Arrgh. :-/ Cheers, -James Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- To unsubscribe, change your address, or temporarily deactivate your subscription, please go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/

Re: [agi] Spatial Reasoning: Modal or Amodal?

2002-11-02 Thread James Rogers
7;m aware of. > Now, James, maybe you really have such a great intuition for AGI design that > you can make all the right decisions without ever looking to biosystems for > inspiration Time will tell, as with all our AGI attempts, eh? ;) Heh! One way or another, we'll know in a f

Re: [agi] Spatial Reasoning: Modal or Amodal?

2002-11-01 Thread James Rogers
he question. For me, checkpointing designs against biological systems is mostly a curiosity. Cheers, -James Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- To unsubscribe, change your address, or temporarily deactivate your subscription, please go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/

RE: [agi] Spatial Reasoning: Modal or Amodal?

2002-10-31 Thread James Rogers
rceived dimensionality is startling, even though they are both nominally the same source material and processed to provide 3D perception. Cheers, -James Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- To unsubscribe, change your address, or temporarily deactivate your subscription, please go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/

RE: [agi] Spatial Reasoning: Modal or Amodal?

2002-10-31 Thread James Rogers
cessary for a working model. In our model, this would cause a modest degradation of cognitive efficiency, though it would still be perfectly usable. -James Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- To unsubscribe, change your address, or temporarily deactivate your subscription, please go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/