response for processes that must have it, do not allow low priority processes to starve, etc.)Cheers.-Steve Stephen L. ReedArtificial Intelligence Researcherhttp://texai.org/bloghttp://texai.org3008 Oak Crest Ave.Austin, Texas, USA 78704512.791.7860- Original Message From: rooftop8000 <[EM
I'll try to explain it more..
Suppose you have a lot of processes, all containing some production rule(s).
They communicate with messages. They all should get cpu time somehow. Some
processes just do low-level responses, some monitor other processes, etc. Some
are involved in looking at the wor
hi,
I have a lot of parallel processes that are in control of their own activation
(they can decide which processes are activated and for how long). I need some
kind of organisation (a simple example would be a hierarchy of processes that
only activate downwards).
I'm looking for examples of
lets start a fund
i'll throw in the first $10
--- Joshua Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Surely Marvin Minsky -- a top MIT professor, with a world-beating reputation
> in multiple fields -- can snap his fingers and get all the required funding,
> whether commercial or non-profit, for AGI project
so he's gonna start his own project with the designs in his book,
if he finds funding?
--- Bob Mottram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This recent talk by Marvin Minsky may be of interest.
>
> http://mitworld.mit.edu/video/484
>
> I know some folks on this list have talked about ways of evangeli
--- rooftop8000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Are there any projects that allow people to help?
>
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i meant
by contributing code etc
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for me personally:
1.A framework in a fun reflective, dynamic language
(not java or c++ or something)
2.easy to add code and test it out right away (add new
logic rules, add a new module and see it at work
right away)
3.the main task of intelligence should be to
*facilitate the adding of new
e" don't think anything of the sort. Syntax is relatively easy.
> Semantics are AGI.
>
> > do any programs like this exist already?
>
> Uh . . . no . . . because any such program which worked would effectively
> *be* AGI.
>
>
> - Original Message -
we already have programming languages. we want computers to
understand natural language because we think: if you know the syntax,
the semantics follow easily. you still need the code to process
the object the text are about. so it will always be a crippled NL understanding
without general intellig
It seems a lot of posts on this list are about the properties an AGI
should have. PLURALISTIC, OPEN-ENDED AGI, adaptive, sometimes irrational ..
it can be useful to talk about them, but i'd rather hear about how
this translates into real projects.
How to make a program that can deal with unce
How do you write and verify in cycl?
--- "YKY (Yan King Yin)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This is a simplified version of LRR. I'm working on a translation into
> CycL.
>
>1.
>
>There exists a girl.
>2.
>
>She lived in the past.
>3.
>
>Her nickname is Little Red Ridi
though performance might be
> arbitrarily slow.
>
> On 3/29/07, YKY (Yan King Yin) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > How does the new phenomenon of web-based collaboration change the way we
> > build an AGI? I feel that something is amiss in a business model if we
>
--- "YKY (Yan King Yin)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have been working on AGI seriously since 2004. I also believe that the
> "core" algorithms needed for AGI could be very compact (though I won't make
> an estimation of its size), with the rest of the information encoded
> "declaratively" i
-very hard to "write code that writes code" compared to LISP, Ruby etc
-very hard to safely run code i think. in java you have security things
to execute code in safe sandboxes, in C++ any array can just run outside
its bounds
-in LISP any ruby and the likes, you can just execute 1 line of code
(
--- Chuck Esterbrook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 3/25/07, rooftop8000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > --- Chuck Esterbrook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > > On 3/24/07, YKY (Yan King Yin) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
&g
--- Chuck Esterbrook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 3/24/07, YKY (Yan King Yin) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On 3/25/07, rooftop8000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ...
> > > > I think Jey's comment is reasonable. It seems impractica
--- Chuck Esterbrook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 3/24/07, rooftop8000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > one chooses a
> > > decent option and gets on with it.
> > >
> > > -- Ben
> >
> > That's exactly the problem.. everyone
--- "YKY (Yan King Yin)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 3/25/07, rooftop8000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The richer your set of algorithms and representations, the more likely
> > the correct ones will emerge/pop out as you put it. I don't re
> one chooses a
> decent option and gets on with it.
>
> -- Ben
That's exactly the problem.. everyone just builds their
own ideas and doesn't consider how their ideas and code could
(later) be used by other people
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--- "YKY (Yan King Yin)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 3/23/07, rooftop8000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Suppose there was an AGI framework that everyone could add
> > > their ideas to.. What properties should it have? I listed
> > &
--- David Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> - Original Message -
> From: "rooftop8000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To:
> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 1:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [agi] My proposal for an AGI agenda
>
>
> > Suppose there was a
Suppose there was an AGI framework that everyone could add
their ideas to.. What properties should it have? I listed
some points below. What would it take for
you to use the framework? You can add points if you like.
1. collaboration. is it possible to focus all attention/ work
in one big p
>
> > You're just hoping you only have to do one thing so you can forget about
> > all the other stuff that is required.
>
> No. I don't think that other stuff required can be done. This is
> the same reason I don't subscribe to SENS. I thought this was unlikely
> when I was a 15 year old, and
>
> We've desintegrated into discussion minutiae (which programming language,
> etc.)
> but the implicit plan is to build a minimal seed that can bootstrap by
> extracting knowledge from its environment. The seed must be open-ended,
> as in adapting itself to the problem domain. I think vision i
--- "YKY (Yan King Yin)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 3/20/07, rooftop8000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi, I've been thinking for a bit about how a big collaboration AI project
> > could work. I browsed the archives and i see you guys have sim
>
> As has been pointed out in this thread (I believe by Goertzel and Hall)
> Minsky's approach in Society of Mind et seq of adding large numbers
> of systems then begs the question: how will these things ever work
> together, and why should the system generalize?
How does adding auditory modu
>
> I have seen multiple times where others have lamented an adequate platform
> that can be used for
> creating an AGI. One that has full introspection, speed, power tools, self
> programmability and
> extreme flexibility. I came to this conclusion about 3 years ago and have
> been creating
--- Ben Goertzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> rooftop8000 wrote:
> > Hi, I've been thinking for a bit about how a big collaboration AI project
> > could work. I browsed the archives and i see you guys have similar
> > ideas
> >
> > I'd love
Hi, I've been thinking for a bit about how a big collaboration AI project
could work. I browsed the archives and i see you guys have similar
ideas
I'd love to see someone build a system that is capable of adding any
kind of AI algorithm/idea to. It should unite the power of all existing
dif
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