Richard,
Good. Glad you're replied. Let's have a go.
Perhaps there are misunderstandings here - because you see if programming
creative idea-hopping were trivially easy, as you suggest, even just in
principle, you should have no problems designing a program that will make
you a billionaire.
I am reluctant to say this, but I am not sure if I actually understand
what Mike is getting at. He described a number of logical (in the
greater sense of being reasonable and structured) methods by which one
could achieve some procedural goal, and then he declares that logic
(in this greater sense
designing and
testing AGI this way? But don't worry about it. Mike doesn't know how to solve
the problem either.
-- Matt Mahoney, matmaho...@yahoo.com
--- On Tue, 1/13/09, Jim Bromer jimbro...@gmail.com wrote:
From: Jim Bromer jimbro...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [agi] [WAS The Smushaby] The Logic
Hi Jim
Yes you have misunderstood the nature of a creative problem, but no
criticism - I clearly need to spell this out v carefully - because I get
that particular misunderstanding over and over from programmers. [I'll just
answer briefly BTW because as I said, I want to do a much fuller,
The notion of drawing a flying house based on knowledge of flying
and houses is covered well in the psych literature on conceptual
blending, which many AI theorists is paid attention to. Mechanisms
for blending are specifically incorporated in the OpenCogPrime design,
we just haven't gotten to
--- On Tue, 1/13/09, Mike Tintner tint...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:
Oh and just to answer Matt - if you want to keep doing
narrow AI, like everyone else, then he's right -
don't worry about it. Pretend it doesn't exist.
Compress things :).
Now, Mike, it is actually a simple problem.
1.
Jim,
One more thing. This Smushaby of Flatway. It's creative - a creative -
arrgh I don't know the word for it - it's not a full pun, nevertheless a
novel double, if not quadruple entendre. - the sort of thing that Matt's
statistical NLP simply won't get at all - and a fascinating insight
Matt,
Well little Matt, as your class teacher, in one sense this is quite clever
of you. But you see, little Matt, when I gave you and the class that
exercise, the idea was for you to show me what *you* could do - what you
could produce from your own brain. I didn't mean you to copy someone
Mike, it's not cheating. It's called research :-)
-- Matt Mahoney, matmaho...@yahoo.com
--- On Tue, 1/13/09, Mike Tintner tint...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:
From: Mike Tintner tint...@blueyonder.co.uk
Subject: Re: [agi] [WAS The Smushaby] The Logic of Creativity
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