[agi] Let's face it, this is just dumb.

2008-10-01 Thread Brad Paulsen
This is probably a tad off-topic, but I couldn't help myself. >From the Technology-We-Could-Probably-Do-Without files: STEP RIGHT UP, LET THE COMPUTER LOOK AT YOUR FACE AND TELL YOU YOUR AGE http://www.physorg.com/news141394850.html >From the article: "...age-recognition algorithms could ... pr

Re: [agi] Let's face it, this is just dumb.

2008-10-02 Thread Bob Mottram
2008/10/2 Brad Paulsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > It "boasts" a 50% recognition accuracy rate +/-5 years and an 80% > recognition accuracy rate +/-10 years. Unless, of course, the subject is > wearing a big floppy hat, makeup or has had Botox treatment recently. Or > found his dad's Ronald Reagan mas

Re: [agi] Let's face it, this is just dumb.

2008-10-02 Thread Matt Mahoney
surveillance is here to stay. Get used to it. -- Matt Mahoney, [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- On Thu, 10/2/08, Bob Mottram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Bob Mottram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [agi] Let's face it, this is just dumb. > To: agi@v2.listbox.com > Date: Thurs

Re: [agi] Let's face it, this is just dumb.

2008-10-02 Thread Ben Goertzel
t Mahoney, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > --- On Thu, 10/2/08, Bob Mottram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > From: Bob Mottram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Re: [agi] Let's face it, this is just dumb. > > To: agi@v2.listbox.com > > Date: Thursda

Re: [agi] Let's face it, this is just dumb.

2008-10-02 Thread Matt Mahoney
--- On Thu, 10/2/08, Ben Goertzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I hope not to sound like a broken record here ... but ... not every >narrow AI advance is actually a step toward AGI ... It is if AGI is billions of narrow experts and a distributed index to get your messages to the right ones. I und

Re: [agi] Let's face it, this is just dumb.

2008-10-02 Thread Ben Goertzel
On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 2:02 PM, Matt Mahoney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- On Thu, 10/2/08, Ben Goertzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >I hope not to sound like a broken record here ... but ... not every > >narrow AI advance is actually a step toward AGI ... > > It is if AGI is billions of nar

Re: [agi] Let's face it, this is just dumb.

2008-10-02 Thread Matt Mahoney
-- Matt Mahoney, [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- On Thu, 10/2/08, Ben Goertzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Ben Goertzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [agi] Let's face it, this is just dumb. To: agi@v2.listbox.com Date: Thursday, October 2, 2008, 2:08 PM On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 2:02

Re: [agi] Let's face it, this is just dumb.

2008-10-02 Thread Ben Goertzel
lex organizations quickly. > > -- Matt Mahoney, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --- On *Thu, 10/2/08, Ben Goertzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote: > > From: Ben Goertzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [agi] Let's face it, this is just dumb. > To: agi@v2.listbox.com > Dat

Re: [agi] Let's face it, this is just dumb.

2008-10-03 Thread Brad Paulsen
it. > > -- Matt Mahoney, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > --- On Thu, 10/2/08, Bob Mottram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> From: Bob Mottram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [agi] Let's face >> it, this is just dumb. To: agi@v2.listbox.com Date: Thursday, Octo

Re: [agi] Let's face it, this is just dumb.

2008-10-03 Thread Gabriel Recchia
he > > reporters. A legitimate application could be estimating the average age > > plus or minus 2 months of a group of 1000 shoppers in a marketing study. > > > > > > In any case, machine surveillance is here to stay. Get used to it. > > > > -- Matt Mahoney

Risks of competitive message routing (was Re: [agi] Let's face it, this is just dumb.)

2008-10-02 Thread Matt Mahoney
--- On Thu, 10/2/08, Ben Goertzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OTOH a global brain coordinating humans and narrow-AI's can **also** be quite > dangerous ... and arguably more so, because it's **definitely** very > unpredictable in almost every aspect ... whereas a system with a dual > hierarchic

Re: Risks of competitive message routing (was Re: [agi] Let's face it, this is just dumb.)

2008-10-03 Thread Ben Goertzel
Hi, > CMR (my proposal) has no centralized control (global brain). It is a > competitive market in which information has negative value. The environment > is a peer-to-peer network where peers receive messages in natural language, > cache a copy, and route them to appropriate experts based on con

Re: Risks of competitive message routing (was Re: [agi] Let's face it, this is just dumb.)

2008-10-03 Thread Matt Mahoney
--- On Fri, 10/3/08, Ben Goertzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You seem to misunderstand the notion of a Global Brain, see > > http://pespmc1.vub.ac.be/GBRAIFAQ.html > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_brain You are right. That is exactly what I am proposing. >>I believe that CMR is initiall

Re: Risks of competitive message routing (was Re: [agi] Let's face it, this is just dumb.)

2008-10-04 Thread Ben Goertzel
On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 9:57 PM, Matt Mahoney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- On Fri, 10/3/08, Ben Goertzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You seem to misunderstand the notion of a Global Brain, see > > > > http://pespmc1.vub.ac.be/GBRAIFAQ.html > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_brain >