RE: [agi] Dog-Level Intelligence

2003-03-25 Thread Ben Goertzel
> Ben> My feeling on dog-level intelligence is that the *cognition* > aspects of > dog-level intelligence are really easy, but the perception and action > components are significantly difficult and subtle. > > 1.) I thought it was well established that by now that perception & action > are *integr

RE: [agi] Dog-Level Intelligence

2003-03-25 Thread Peter Voss
Hi Ben, I think there are some important points pertaining to the early achievement of AGI here - Ben> My feeling on dog-level intelligence is that the *cognition* aspects of dog-level intelligence are really easy, but the perception and action components are significantly difficult and subtle.

RE: [agi] Dog-Level Intelligence

2003-03-25 Thread Ben Goertzel
My feeling on dog-level intelligence is that the *cognition* aspects of dog-level intelligence are really easy, but the perception and action components are significantly difficult and subtle. In other words, once a dog's brain has produced abstract patterns not tied to particular environmental s

Re: [agi] Dog-Level Intelligence

2003-03-24 Thread Moshe Looks
Hi Margeret, Margeret wrote: > I don't mean to be rude here- but it may help you to follow some of > the PSYCHE-D discussions on the Zombie argument. Their structure may > help you to unravel some of your philosophical dead-ends. I don't mean > to suggest that we don't all create them for our selv

Re: [agi] Dog-Level Intelligence

2003-03-24 Thread Margeret Heath
Moshe, I don't mean to be rude here- but it may help you to follow some of the PSYCHE-D discussions on the Zombie argument. Their structure may help you to unravel some of your philosophical dead-ends. I don't mean to suggest that we don't all create them for our selves whentrying to study the mind

Re: [agi] Dog-Level Intelligence

2003-03-24 Thread Moshe Looks
Brad wrote: > It might be easier to build a human intelligence than a dog intelligence simply > because we don't have a dog's perspective and we can't ask them to reflect on it. > Don't be quick to assume it would be easier just because they are less intelligent. Kevin wrote: > planning an interc

Re: [agi] Dog-Level Intelligence

2003-03-21 Thread Brad Wyble
It might be easier to build a human intelligence than a dog intelligence simply because we don't have a dog's perspective and we can't ask them to reflect on it. Don't be quick to assume it would be easier just because they are less intelligent. -Brad --- To unsubscribe, change your

RE: [agi] Dog-Level Intelligence

2003-03-21 Thread Kevin Copple
I was not able to connect to URL, or the subsequent one either, but I'll make a few comments anyway :-) It seems to me that "language, math, logic, long chains of reasoning, etc." may be the easier types of intelligence to emulate. I am thinking of a dog running across a field, jumping into the a

Re: [agi] Dog-Level Intelligence

2003-03-21 Thread Philip Sutton
Hi Moshe, Dogs are social animals that live in packs (often). There's nothing on the list about social behaviours. My gut feeling is that dogs are smarter than the list implied - but I haven't thought enough about it to pin down much of what's missing. Dogs are curious, they play, they have l

Re: [agi] Dog-Level Intelligence - server down?????

2003-03-21 Thread Moshe Looks
Sorry, try: http://userfs.cec.wustl.edu/~ml4/doglevel.html Not as pretty a url, but it will have to do. ;-> > Hi Moshe, > > I can't connect to this URL > > http://www.republicofheaven.org/doglevel.html > > Cheers, Philip > > --- > To unsubscribe, change your address, or temporarily deact

Re: [agi] Dog-Level Intelligence - server down?????

2003-03-20 Thread Philip Sutton
Hi Moshe, I can't connect to this URL http://www.republicofheaven.org/doglevel.html Cheers, Philip --- To unsubscribe, change your address, or temporarily deactivate your subscription, please go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/[EMAIL PROTECTED]