From: Mike Tintner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 4:01 PM
To: agi@v2.listbox.com
Subject: Re: [agi] Re: pattern definition
Joe,
Thanks for reply - yes, I thought you meant something like this, but it's
good to have it spelled out.
I think you're making what
Joseph H:
Mike, what is your stance on vector images?
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Hi Joe,
What's the point of this question? Is it something like: geometry can be used
to analyse any shapes?
Well, I figured the point of the question would be pretty clear seeing as
you were claiming a logical/mathematical description of images would be
inadequate, but I don't think that could be further from the truth...
You could recreate a large amount of detail in an image using mathematics
and it
Mike, here's your bucket.
Circle(0,50,10)
Circle(0,45,10)
Ring(0,45,6,8)
Cylinder(0,50,45,10)
Cylinder(0,45,-10,8)
Disk(0,-10,8)
- Joe
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Joe,
Thanks for reply - yes, I thought you meant something like this, but it's good
to have it spelled out.
I think you're making what seems to me to be a v. common mistake among AGI-ers.
Yes, you can reduce any image whatsoever on a computer screen, to some set of
mathemetical
Joe,
And here's a perhaps easier [?], certainly more commonplace set - how will
your system recognize each is Madonna:
http://www.the-planets.com/madonna/madonna_200.jpg
http://www.ouvre.com/wp-content/banniere-itms-madonna.png
Boris: I define intelligence as an ability to predict/plan by discovering
projecting patterns within an input flow.
IOW a capacity to generalize. A general intelligence is something that
generalizes from incoming info. about the world.
Well, no it can't be just that. Look at what you write
So many overloads - pattern, complexity, atoms - can't we come up with new
terms like schfinkledorfs? - but a very interesting question is - given an
image of W x H pixels of 1 bit depth (on or off), one frame, how many
patterns exist within this grid? When you think about it, it becomes an
And it doesn't literally make much sense because your blog has a lot of
generalizations with no examples - no
individualizations/particularisations of, for example, what
individual/particular problems your algorithms might apply to. The making
sense level of your brain - an AGI that works - is
Jim,
I doubt that your specification equals my individualization.
If I want to be able to recognize the individuals, Curtis/Brian/Carl/ and
Billi Bromer,only images will do it:
http://www.dunningmotorsales.com/IMAGES/people/Curtis%20Bromer.jpg
Mike, what is your stance on vector images?
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Entities must not be multiplied unnecessarily. William of Okkam.
A pattern is a set of matching inputs.
A match is a partial identity of the comparands.
The comparands for general intelligence must incrementally indefinitely
scale in complexity.
The scaling must start from the bottom:
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