BUS: Informs

2008-07-17 Thread Ed Murphy
I inform the following defendants of the following criminal cases, and invite them to rebut the argument for their guilt. Criminal Plaintiff Defendant 2081 comex Goethe 2082 comex tusho 2083 comex root

BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 2070-71 assigned to Goethe

2008-07-17 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 16 Jul 2008, Ed Murphy wrote: == CFJ 2070 == If there had been no disclaimer in the message sent by comex with Message-ID [EMAIL PROTECTED], comex would have taken at least one action besides submitting a CFJ

BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 2070-71 assigned to Goethe

2008-07-17 Thread Kerim Aydin
Oh, CFJ 2071 Judgement, too: Making an announcement is an action, therefore this is trivially TRUE. -Goethe

BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2064 assigned to Quazie

2008-07-17 Thread Quazie
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 10:51 PM, Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I change all sitting players to standing. Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2064 == CFJ 2064 == The message quoted in the evidence

Re: BUS: Informs

2008-07-17 Thread Quazie
2091 tusho Quazie I plead INNOCENT. I'm not even fully sure we made a person there. If we did i can certainly do any action instead of it, which very likely allows it to have all of its rights uninfringed. I end the pre-trial phase of this CFJ

BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2065a assigned to BobTHJ, Taral, Goethe

2008-07-17 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 16 Jul 2008, Ed Murphy wrote: Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2065a Appeal 2065a I intend to announce the following on behalf of the panel with panel support: The judge's arguments are

Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2065a assigned to BobTHJ, Taral, Goethe

2008-07-17 Thread Taral
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 11:35 PM, Kerim Aydin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I intend to announce the following on behalf of the panel with panel support: The judge's arguments are reasonable, and the Appellant's arguments do not convince this panel otherwise. This panel moves to AFFIRM. I

Re: BUS: Informs

2008-07-17 Thread Elliott Hird
2008/7/17 Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2092 tusho tusho I plead GUILTY: vi. Every player has the right of participation in the fora. It certainly does not. tusho

Re: BUS: Informs

2008-07-17 Thread Elliott Hird
2008/7/17 Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2088 Woobletusho Trivially UNIMPUNGED - this is a nonsense CFJ and I'd bet everything that it was Wooble's payback for passing a rival proposal in PerlNomic that distributed the chits more evenly. I'd also bet that e's going to use the

Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2064 assigned to Quazie

2008-07-17 Thread Ed Murphy
Quazie wrote: I judge FALSE. Changes to a public contract must be published before they take effect by R2178. The change itself was not published by the above message. If it had included the text 'proposal 2', noting that those changes were being applied, then this CFJ would be TRUE, but

Re: BUS: CRIMINAL CASES

2008-07-17 Thread Ben Caplan
On Tuesday 15 July 2008 05:18:43 pm comex wrote: I initiate a criminal CFJ: I initiate a criminal CFJ: I initiate a criminal CFJ: I initiate a criminal CFJ: I initiate a criminal CFJ: I initiate a criminal CFJ: I initiate a criminal CFJ: I transfer one prop from comex to Murphy, in

Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2053a assigned to BobTHJ, ais523, Goethe

2008-07-17 Thread Roger Hicks
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 12:43 AM, Kerim Aydin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 16 Jul 2008, Ed Murphy wrote: Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2053a Appeal 2053a I intent to post the following announcement

Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2065a assigned to BobTHJ, Taral, Goethe

2008-07-17 Thread Roger Hicks
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 12:35 AM, Kerim Aydin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 16 Jul 2008, Ed Murphy wrote: Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2065a Appeal 2065a I intend to announce the following on behalf

BUS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposals 5640-5648

2008-07-17 Thread Ben Caplan
5640 O1 1.5 Goethe Take it to Equity! PRESENT 5641 D1 2Taral Pragmatic ribbons FOR 5642 D1 2Sgeonone FOR 5643 O1 1comex a probably unsuccessful attempt at AGAINSTx4 5644 D1 2Murphy Prerogative implies choice FOR 5645 O1 1.7 Murphy

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Transfer

2008-07-17 Thread ais523
On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 18:49 +0100, Elliott Hird wrote: 2008/7/16 ais523 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I transfer 1VP to Wooble, as compensation for eir lost chits. -- ais523 Dude, the PNP gave 75*2 chits to em. Read it carefully. You accidentally gave the chits to woggle twice and Wooble not at

BUS: No frivolous prosecution

2008-07-17 Thread Ben Caplan
I submit the following proposal, AI=1.7, II=1, titled No frivolous prosecution: { Amend R1504 by inserting , with 2 Support, after A criminal case CAN in the first paragraph. } Pavitra

Re: ?spam? Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Transfer

2008-07-17 Thread ais523
On Thu, 2008-07-17 at 15:57 +0100, ais523 wrote: I call for judgement on the statement {{The PerlNomic Partnership has transferred a total of 150 chits to woggle in the last week.}} I retract that CFJ, as it is redundant. -- ais523

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Transfer

2008-07-17 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 10:57 AM, ais523 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I transfer 1VP to Wooble (again); it only seems fair that to me we should split the rather ill-advised bribe tusho gave me to cause the PNP to split its chits like that. I transfer this VP to the Reformed Bank of Agora in

BUS: Judgement of CFJ 2080

2008-07-17 Thread Ed Murphy
Unlike CFJ 2079, the statement inquired into by CFJ 2080 and the statement initiating CFJ 2080 were not the same statement. But that's actually normal, and CFJ 2079 is the exception. The initiator did, in fact, CFJ on the statement I CFJ on this statement. TRUE.

Re: BUS: CRIMINAL CASES

2008-07-17 Thread comex
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 12:33 AM, Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I initiate a criminal CFJ: - defendant: comex - rule: 2149 - action: claiming in eir message with message-id [EMAIL PROTECTED] that e intended to appeal ehird's judgement of CFJ 1932, while in fact he did not intend to

BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2080 judged TRUE by Murphy

2008-07-17 Thread Kerim Aydin
[I'm taking the route of a new CFJ because of the self-negating nature of an appeal]. I call for judgement on the following two linked statements: 1. The statement labeled by the CotC as the CFJ statement for CFJ 2079 was a CFJ statement called by root. I bar Murphy 2. The

Re: BUS: CRIMINAL CASES

2008-07-17 Thread comex
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 12:34 PM, comex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Too bad, that last one was interesting. The AFO intends a criminal CFJ identical to the above. I transfer another prop from myself to Murphy. And this fails too, because the AFO can't. ugh.

Re: BUS: Informs

2008-07-17 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 16 Jul 2008, Ed Murphy wrote: Criminal Plaintiff Defendant 2081 comex Goethe I was listening to the Dead Kennedys' Forward to Death while typing that message. I recommend EXILE. I end the pre-trial phase. -Goethe

BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2077 assigned to BobTHJ

2008-07-17 Thread Roger Hicks
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 12:11 AM, Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2077 == CFJ 2077 == Ivan Hope is a player

Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2077 assigned to BobTHJ

2008-07-17 Thread ais523
On Thu, 2008-07-17 at 10:48 -0600, Roger Hicks wrote: On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 12:11 AM, Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2077 == CFJ 2077 == Ivan Hope is a player

Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2077 assigned to BobTHJ

2008-07-17 Thread Quazie
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 9:48 AM, Roger Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 12:11 AM, Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2077 == CFJ 2077 == Ivan Hope is a

Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2077 assigned to BobTHJ

2008-07-17 Thread Roger Hicks
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 10:51 AM, Quazie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 9:48 AM, Roger Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 12:11 AM, Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2077

BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2073 assigned to Wooble

2008-07-17 Thread Ian Kelly
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 12:04 AM, Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2073 == CFJ 2073 == Either the sky is always red or, if I do not hereby initiate an inquiry case on

Re: BUS: Informs

2008-07-17 Thread Elliott Hird
2008/7/17 Elliott Hird [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2008/7/17 Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2092 tusho tusho I plead GUILTY: vi. Every player has the right of participation in the fora. It certainly does not. tusho I end the pre-trial phase.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Informs

2008-07-17 Thread Elliott Hird
2008/7/17 Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 2:31 AM, Elliott Hird [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Such is Agora. tusho Don't forget to end your pre-trial periods. I end the pre-trial phase on the CFJ I gave arguments for two quotes down.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2065a assigned to BobTHJ, Taral, Goethe

2008-07-17 Thread Ed Murphy
Taral wrote: On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 8:15 AM, Roger Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're too concerned with the facts of this case. Patent nonsense. BobTHJ, your arguments lead me to believe that you have no basis other than personal (or contractual) bias on this issue. Agreed. BobTHJ

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CRIMINAL CASES

2008-07-17 Thread Ed Murphy
comex wrote: On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 12:53 PM, Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Partnerships can't initiate criminal cases, either. I am willing to give chits, VP, and/or crops for a pledge that you will accept a few more CFJs from me. (The refused ones are more interesting than the

Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2065 assigned to woggle

2008-07-17 Thread ais523
On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 19:46 -0600, Charles Reiss wrote: Precedent in CFJ 1334 (referenced by root's arguments) has held that a statement of intent is ambiguous when it is missing an essential parameter for the action in question that will need to be assigned when the action is completed.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2065a assigned to BobTHJ, Taral, Goethe

2008-07-17 Thread Roger Hicks
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 11:00 AM, Kerim Aydin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 17 Jul 2008, Roger Hicks wrote: I think the appropriate response at this point would be to call a press conference and announce how I tried to work for a bi-partisan compromise but the other side was unwilling to

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Doing ehird a favor, I suppose.

2008-07-17 Thread ais523
On Thu, 2008-07-17 at 10:06 -0700, Quazie wrote: On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 7:19 AM, Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quazie wrote: On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 12:03 AM, Ian Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 11:20 PM, Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't find a

BUS: Vote Market Insurance

2008-07-17 Thread Sgeo
I agree to the following contract: { This is a public contract called Vote Market Insurance. Parties to this contract are known as Insurees. Any entity that either possesses VP or is bound by the Vote Market may join this contract by announcement. Total VP is defined as the total amount of VP

BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2065a assigned to BobTHJ, Taral, Goethe

2008-07-17 Thread Kerim Aydin
Having received the necessary support, I submit the following on behalf of the panel for 2065a: The judge's arguments are reasonable, and the Appellant's arguments do not convince this panel otherwise. This panel moves to AFFIRM. -Goethe

BUS: Closing the Vote Market Insurance loophole

2008-07-17 Thread ais523
On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 20:33 -0400, Sgeo wrote: This is just a proto of a contract. I do not agree to this contract at this time. I intend, without three objections, to amend the Vote Market by removing the following paragraph: {{{ 10. When the VP of a first-class party falls below 50, e is

Re: ?spam? Re: BUS: buy ticket

2008-07-17 Thread ais523
On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 18:39 +0100, ais523 wrote: On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 18:37 +0100, Elliott Hird wrote: I post the following Buy Ticket: Cost: 4VP Action: Vote 'yes' on the PerlNomic proposal ehird.disperse_chits_fairly and do not retract this vote. tusho I accept this ticket. For

BUS: The Demon Proposals

2008-07-17 Thread Elliott Hird
I propose the following proposal, named Demon 1 (AI=1,II=0): {Hello, world #1!} I propose the following proposal, named Demon 2 (AI=1,II=0): {Hello, world #2!} I propose the following proposal, named Demon 3 (AI=1,II=0): {Hello, world #3!} I propose the following proposal, named Demon 4

Re: BUS: The Demon Proposals

2008-07-17 Thread Elliott Hird
I propose the following proposal, named Demon 451 (AI=1,II=0): {Hello, world #451!} I propose the following proposal, named Demon 452 (AI=1,II=0): {Hello, world #452!} I propose the following proposal, named Demon 453 (AI=1,II=0): {Hello, world #453!} I propose the following proposal, named Demon

Re: BUS: The Demon Proposals

2008-07-17 Thread Elliott Hird
I propose the following proposal, named Demon 901 (AI=1,II=0): {Hello, world #901!} I propose the following proposal, named Demon 902 (AI=1,II=0): {Hello, world #902!} I propose the following proposal, named Demon 903 (AI=1,II=0): {Hello, world #903!} I propose the following proposal, named Demon

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: The Demon Proposals

2008-07-17 Thread Roger Hicks
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 1:14 PM, Elliott Hird [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/7/17 Roger Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Is there an objective here? (apart from annoyance?) BobTHJ Consider it a verbose and chaotic version of We should really have a proposal limit like CFJs. This'll play havoc

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: The Demon Proposals

2008-07-17 Thread Roger Hicks
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 1:28 PM, Kerim Aydin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 17 Jul 2008, Elliott Hird wrote: Um, that'll be distributed along with mine. Doesn't have to be. Zefram tends to distribute twice a week, but can legally hold them up to a week, do the cancel one immediately, etc.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Doing ehird a favor, I suppose.

2008-07-17 Thread Elliott Hird
I CoE on the Agoran Decision about whether to adopt proposal 5582, stating that OscarMeyr actually voted AGAINST. tusho

BUS: Claim of Error

2008-07-17 Thread Kerim Aydin
Official Claim of Error: I believe/claim that to the best of my knowledge, the results of Proposal 5582 have been incorrectly reported in a manner that would change their outcome, by leaving out OscarMeyr's vote AGAINST. This is directed at the publisher of the results, deputy ihope.

Re: BUS: Protection Racket - divestment

2008-07-17 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 6:03 PM, Roger Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I intend with the majority consent of the Dons to transfer chits from the protection racket to the Dons as follows: I consent.

BUS: Votes

2008-07-17 Thread Benjamin Schultz
5636: FOR 5637: 7 x AGAINST, I'd prefer a simplification of the system. 5638: 7 x FOR 5639: FOR 5640: 7 x FOR 5643: 7 x AGAINST 5645: 7 x FOR 5646: FOR 5647: 7 x FOR 5648: AGAINST On 5641, 5642, and 5644, I denounce tusho. - Benjamin Schultz KE3OM OscarMeyr

BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2072 assigned to OscarMeyr

2008-07-17 Thread Benjamin Schultz
On Jul 17, 2008, at 1:56 AM, Ed Murphy wrote: Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2072 = Criminal Case 2072 = the CotC (Murphy) violated R2019 by not assigning the Default Justice (myself) to be member of this