Dead-horse arguments on CFJ 3828:
Respectfully, I think the Honorable G. has read too much into Rule 2518
"Determinacy". I think that that rule is merely a definition of the words
"determinate" and "indeterminate" and has no intentional consequences
besides that. In particular, nowhere does Rule
Not-so-gratuitous arguments on CFJ 3828:
Rule 217 "Interpreting the Rules" states:
When interpreting and applying the rules, the text of the rules
takes precedence. Where the text is silent, inconsistent, or
unclear, it is to be augmented by game custom, common sense, past
On Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 09:06 James Cook via agora-discussion <
agora-discuss...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> This won't count unless you register. Or do you think my act of
> deregistering you was ineffective?
>
Looks like I missed a few emails and thought that you hadn't yet published
a Writ of
On Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 02:47 Rebecca via agora-business <
agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> I object (it wasnt a "real" grievance)
>
I object for the same reason.
—Warrigal, who is wholly on the exterior of any and all huffs
>
Dear Registrar,
Oh, what egregious treatment I have received on the part of the Agoran
community! Oh, what grievances I have, and oh, what reproach I have
for those I feel have treated me so badly!
I shall now detail my grievances, which number two. The first thereof
is that if I were to
> 8368j G. 1.7 Explicit Accusations
> 8369* Aris 3.0 Emergency Termination Notice
> 8370f Aris 2.0 Announced Petitions
> 8371f Aris 2.0 Petitio Exitus
> 8372* Alexis, G., Falsifian3.0 Auction
>
> I vote:
-8366* Aris, twg3.0 Asset Determinacy
>
FOR
8367* Murphy, Falsifian3.0 Slow burn
>
FOR
—Warrigal
>
I sell one share of DRGN for 5 banknotes and redeem the banknotes by
transferring 5 coins from the Dragon Corporation to myself.
Jason, I believe you are now the President, which makes you the
recordkeepor of assets defined by the Dragon Corporation.
—Warrigal
I vote:
> 8349j twg 1.0 Temporary CFJ Setup
FOR
> 8350j Alexis 2.0 Apologies Don't Interfere
FOR
> 8351* Jason3.0 Double proposal application fix
FOR
> 8352e G. 2.0 zombie auction fix 1.1
FOR
> 8353*
Whoops, I dudo'd the wrong one.
On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 11:25 PM Aris Merchant via agora-official
wrote:
> The proposal pool is currently empty.
I issue a doubt: the proposal pool contains a proposal titled
"Somebody gets a coin".
—Warrigal
On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 11:16 PM Aris Merchant via agora-official
wrote:
> The proposal pool is currently empty.
I issue a doubt: the proposal pool contains a proposal titled
"Somebody gets a coin".
Aside: I think it would be fun to make "dudo" a synonym of "I issue a doubt".
—Warrigal
CoE: Since you sent your DRGN message to a discussion forum and I attempted
to pf it, your attempt at joining the contract was ineffective, and
your attempt at buying shares may have been effective, depending on whether
my pf attempt failed completely or partially.
I recommend joining the
ruling is that we can’t make reports by announcement,
> but if that gets rectified I would be interested in contractual
> arrangements to allow me to publish other contract state in the Notary’s
> report on behalf of the actual recordkeepor.)
>
> Gaelan
>
> > On Mar 1, 2020, at 3:13
As the sole party to The Dragon Corporation, I amend it by replacing
{{{
Within 90 days after this contract is created, any entity CAN buy a share
by announcement; in the same message, the entity must transfer 10 coins
and/or banknotes to the Dragon Corporation as a cost for this action. When
e
Without further ado...
I agree to the following.
{{{
## Bylaw 1: Definition
This contract is named "the Dragon Corporation". The purpose of the
Dragon Corporation is to earn as much money as possible for its
shareholders.
All other provisions of this contract notwithstanding, this contract
I submit a proposal with AI = 1, titled "Somebody gets a coin":
{
Enact a power-1 rule titled "A Coin Award":
{
When this rule is enacted, a player other than the
author of the proposal which enacted this rule earns 1
coin. Then, if a player earned a coin this way,
I vote:
> 8342j Gaelan, [1] 2.0 Calls with Memoranda
PRESENT
> 8343j twg 1.7 Judicial Jocularity Act
AGAINST
> 8344* Alexis 3.0 Unsubstantive interpretation
PRESENT
> 8345j Jason2.0 Self-punishment
FOR
> 8346*
I cease to be a party to the Zombie Market. As a result, that contract is
destroyed.
—Warrigal
On Sun, Feb 23, 2020, 14:12 Edward Murphy via agora-business <
agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> I initiate an Agoran decision to select the winner of the Prime Minister
> election.
>
> I initiate an Agoran decision to select the winner of the Rulekeepor
> election.
>
I vote PRESENT on
On Sun, Feb 23, 2020, 14:09 Edward Murphy via agora-business <
agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> I wrote:
>
> > I initiate an Agoran decision to select the winner of the Referee
> > election.
> >
> > I initiate an Agoran decision to select the winner of the Registrar
> > election.
>
> [...]
In CFJ 3807, the key question is whether or not Proposal 8305, in
"renaming" Jason's patent title from Master of Nomic to Magisteriate
of Nomic, thereby revoked the patent title of Master of Nomic and
awarded the patent title of Magisteriate of Nomic.
Usually, renaming a thing does not constitute
H. Arbitor, I wish to express my interest in being assigned to one CFJ.
—Warrigal
I agree to the following.
Anyone wanna sell me a zombie?
{{{
This contract is named "the Zombie Market".
Any entity CAN become a party to this contract by announcement. Any
party to this contract CAN cease to be a party to this contract by
announcement, unless e is the master of a zombie and
I change my vote on Proposal 8341 "Support of the Person" to PRESENT.
—Warrigal
I vote:
> 8322* Falsifian, Alexis, twg 3.0 Unrepetition v1.1
PRESENT
> 8323* Jason3.0 Secure Ribbons
PRESENT
> 8324l Falsifian2.0 Democratic unassignment
FOR
> 8325e Falsifian2.0 Inflation Vote
PRESENT
> 8326* Falsifian
, 2020, 20:16 Tanner Swett wrote:
> The following hands have been dealt:
>
> Dealer: K, Q. Total: 20.
>
> G.: 8, 2, 9. Total: 19. (LOSE)
> twg: 8, J. Total: 18. (LOSE)
> Jason: J, 3, 7. Total: 20. (PUSH)
> Tcbapo: 5, 7, 9. Total: 21. (WIN)
>
> I pay Jason 2 coins.
I submit a proposal, titled "Promissory cleanliness", with AI = 1.7: {
Append the following paragraph to Rule 2450 "Pledges":
The Notary CAN destroy a pledge Without Objection, and SHOULD do so if and
only if the pledge no longer serves any significant purpose.
}
The blackjack hand is over,
Whereas, on the twenty-seventh day of May, in the year two thousand twelve,
I submitted a Call for Judgement, that being designated the three thousand
two hundred twentieth Call for Judgement,
And whereas, on the twenty-fourth day of June, that Call for Judgement was
found UNDECIDABLE,
And
The following hands have been dealt:
Dealer: K (10).
G.: 8, 2, 9. Total: 19.
G. may hit or stand.
twg: 8, J. Total: 18. (STAND)
Jason: J, 3, 7. Total: 20.
Jason may hit or stand.
Tcbapo: 5, 7, 9. Total: 21.
Tcbapo may hit or stand.
G., Jason, and Tcbapo, what are your actions? (Not that I
On Sat, Feb 1, 2020, 23:54 Tanner Swett via agora-business <
agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> I intend, with 2 Agoran Consent, to award twg the Patent Title of
> > Baccalaureate of Nomic, subject to the conditions that the person
> > performing the award pu
PF:
On Thu, Jan 30, 2020, 22:37 Alexis Hunt via agora-official <
agora-offic...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> I intend, with 2 Agoran Consent, to award twg the Patent Title of Associate
> of Nomic, subject to the conditions that the person performing the award
> pursuant to this intent is the
The following hands have been dealt:
Dealer: K (10).
G.: 8, 2. Total: 10.
G. may hit, stand, double down, or surrender. Recommended action: hit.
twg: 8, J. Total: 18.
twg may hit, stand, double down, or surrender. Recommended action: stand.
Jason: J, 3. Total: 13.
Jason may hit, stand, double
3 days have passed since I posted this, so bets are closed. If I'm
counting correctly, the players are G., twg, Jason, and Tcbapo. I'll
deal each of those players a 2-card hand, and an upcard to myself as
the dealer. If I've missed anyone, I can deal em a hand as soon as I'm
made aware of it. On
I pledge, with N = 5, that for each player who gives me 2 coins as a
bet within the next 3 days, I will deal that player a blackjack hand
and resolve the bet according to the rules of blackjack.
I will deal myself (as the dealer) only one hand, rather than one hand
per player. If I ask you for
On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 8:47 PM Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion
wrote:
> I object.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jan 23, 2020, at 5:29 PM, Tanner Swett via agora-business
> > wrote:
> [...]
> > Without objection, I intend to declare apathy, specifyi
On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 7:34 PM Aris Merchant via agora-business
wrote:
> Oh, also: I cause Warrigal to receive a Welcome Package.
>
> -Aris
Many thanks! My understanding is I have 10 coins now, right?
Without objection, I intend to declare apathy, specifying myself only.
For posterity, the
I register again.
—Warrigal
On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 11:13 PM, Owen Jacobson wrote:
> I claim that the following “report” contains at least two errors, of which
> at least one is material and at least one is not.
>
> * Murphy’s spending power is not 1.
>
> * The Secretary’s responsibilities are
I flip the Spending Power of Promotor to 9 and the Spending Power of ADoP to 10.
--Gumball Watterson
I award myself a Cyan Ribbon.
On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 10:43 PM, Tanner Swett <tannersw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> That attempt at publishing a report failed because I didn't state that
> I was deputising. (And besides, I sent it to BUS instead of OFF.)
>
> I normally deputise for t
I register, with my chosen nickname as below.
--the Warrigal
I vote NO on 7787 and 7789, and YES on 7788. (If I got the ID numbers
wrong, but it's clear which proposals I intended to vote on, I cast these
votes on those proposals.)
—the telephonic Warrigal
7785* G. 1.0 The New Map
7786* scshunt1.0 Monthly Distribution
I vote YES on both.
—the Warrigal
I submit the quoted proposal.
—the Warrigal
On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 2:15 AM, John Smith spamba...@yahoo.com wrote:
I suggest someone submit the following as a proposal. Its main function is
to allow non-player persons to win using Trust Tokens (they can already
collect them). Its secondary
You know, I'm starting to feel like Agora really isn't the nomic for
me. Whenever we're faced with a choice between multiple valid and
justifiable interpretations of the rules, we seem to rarely simply go
with whichever option is most convenient or intended; we instead
interpret the letter of the
I vote NO on this Mammon Machine proposal.
(Initially I thought there was some scam which would allow the
proposal to pass as long as it has at least 0.2 times as many FOR
votes as AGAINST votes. Alas.)
—the Warrigal
I vote:
7780+ the Warrigal 3.0 We don't need that
Conditional: FOR if there is at least one other valid vote FOR,
PRESENT otherwise
7781+ the Warrigal 3.0 Secure, secures, securing, secured
YES
7782+ the Warrigal 3.0 Power Always Controls Mutability
YES
7783+ scshunt 3.0
I retract this proposal and resubmit it with the word official
replaced with Agoran.
Because that fixes EVERYTHING.
—the Warrigal
On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 5:16 PM, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote:
I intend, with Agoran Consent, to initiate a Proposal Competition with
the following objective:
Create a mechanic that connects two currently unrelated parts of the game.
I support.
—the Warrigal
On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 7:35 PM, tmanthe2nd . trstnbrd...@gmail.com wrote:
Oh, thanks. I tried searching for secured. I should have tried other forms
of the word.
You know, I did the exact same thing when I was new (back around
Christmas 2008, was it?). I saw the word secured in the rules and
I submit a proposal, with an AI of 3, titled Power Always Controls Mutability:
[Prevent any rule with power exactly 3 from somehow subverting the
power structure, because that would be really confusing.]
In Rule 2140 Power Controls Mutability, change the phrase No entity
with power below the
Proposal, AI 3, We don't need that
Amend Rule 1551 Ratification to read:
If an erroneous statement is made in an official report, and the error
is not publicly noted within 30 days, and the erroneous statement is
consistent with the rest of the report, then the gamestate changes to
what it would
I change my official nickname to Alfonso Machiavelli, the Warrigal,
with Japanese form Worigaru no Arufonsu Makiaberi. My unofficial
preferred nickname remains the Warrigal.
--the Warrigal
I vote for Proposal 7698 Ribbons 2014. I intend to change this vote
several times as other votes come in.
--the Warrigal
T4PF
On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 6:13 PM, Tanner Swett tannersw...@gmail.com wrote:
I vote:
7763* scshunt 1.0 Official References
AGAINST; this seems like it doesn't accomplish anything at all
7764* scshunt 1.0 Prime Ministerial Perks
FOR
7765* scshunt 2.0
Proposal, The Resistance, AI 1.5:
Create a rule with power 1.5, titled Gothur and Yufel:
The Weird is an office.
Brutality is a singleton switch, tracked by the Weird, with
values Peace (default) and War. The phrases there is Peace and
there is War refer to the value of
ID Author(s) AI Title
7758* omd1.0 IADoP Untitling
CoE: Proposal 7758 has no adoption index. (As a consequence, when it
is resolved, its power will not be set to 1.)
--the Warrigal
On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 3:15 PM, Luis Ressel ara...@aixah.de wrote:
On Mon, 13 Jul 2015 15:02:42 -0400
Tanner Swett tannersw...@gmail.com wrote:
ID Author(s) AI Title
7758* omd1.0 IADoP Untitling
CoE: Proposal 7758 has
I vote:
7758* omd1.0 IADoP Untitling
FOR with pseudo-acronym
7759* G. 3.0 minor Powers v0.2
FOR; I don't actually like it, but I have no particular reason for not
liking it, and if we don't like the effects we can undo it.
7760+ G. 3.0 Next Win System
FOR
I do the thing that, in the below quoted message, I attempted to do.
On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 11:25 PM, Tanner Swett tannersw...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 12:48 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote:
On Wed, 8 Jul 2015, Luis Ressel wrote:
The voting period for the Assessor
I vote:
7756+ Gaelan 1.0 Into the 21st century
Against
—the Warrigal
I award Charles Walker a Magenta Ribbon. (Can I do that? E doesn't
already have one, does e?)
—the Warrigal
I hereby acknowledge the fact that it is Agora's Birthday. Having done
so, I award myself a Magenta Ribbon.
—the Warrigal
If I am not a player, I register.
I vote:
7755+ aranea, G. 1.5 Patenting II
YES
--the Warrigal
Io me inscribe. Io vole devenir jocator.
--the Warrigal
With regret, I deregister.
My planned reasoning for CFJ 3436, in summary: in the past, we have generally
considered one phrase to be a synonym of another if the latter phrase clearly
matches the intended meaning of the former phrase. In this case, the intended
meaning of Proposal: is clearly I
7725 aranea 3.0 Powering up ribbons
I vote FOR this.
—the Warrigal
In the Dungeon Master election, I vote for myself. In all other elections, I
vote ENDORSE ais523.
—the Warrigal
On Oct 28, 2014, at 4:09 PM, omd wrote:
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 4:05 PM, Tanner Swett tannersw...@gmail.com wrote:
A rule which purports to allow a person (a special deputy) to
perform an action via special deputisation for an office thereby
allows them to perform the action
On Oct 26, 2014, at 9:38 PM, Tanner Swett wrote:
I submit a proposal with a title of Speedliness and an adoption index of 3:
I withdraw this proposal, and submit the following very similar proposal, also
titled Speedliness and also having an adoption index of 3:
Amend Rule 2160 Deputisation
On Oct 26, 2014, at 12:01 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
On Sat, 25 Oct 2014, Tanner Swett wrote:
7710 3 G. Defining Reasonable Review
AGAINST - I think a proposal should be able to effect a rule change
without actually literally containing the text of the rule change.
Can you give
If I'm assigned as a judge to a case, I'll probably judge it, but I make no
promises.
—the Warrigal
On Oct 26, 2014, at 9:52 PM, Tanner Swett wrote:
On Oct 25, 2014, at 10:56 PM, Tanner Swett wrote:
7706 3 omd Fast Track
FOR (same comment as 7705, except this time I bothered to compare the new
text to the old text)
Out of sheer egotism, I retract this ballot.
And then I go
I vote:
7698 1 ais523 Ribbons 2014
FOR
7699 3 scshunt Immutability
PRESENT
7700 1 Henri Office Salary
FOR, despite the fact that is impelled to probably means SHOULD now
7701 1 Henri Credits
FOR
7702 1 Henri Minister for Social Stratification
FOR
On Oct 25, 2014, at 10:48 PM, omd wrote:
On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 10:43 PM, Henri Bouchard henrib...@gmail.com wrote:
Claim of Error: Proposal: Credits has an adoption index of 2.
Ah, I missed your resubmission. I distribute 7701 again, same
parameters, title, and text as before, but the
On Oct 25, 2014, at 11:20 PM, omd wrote:
On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 11:14 PM, Eritivus eriti...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, 2014-10-26 at 02:48 +, omd wrote:
Ah, I missed your resubmission. I distribute 7701 again, same
parameters, title, and text as before, but the corrected AI is indeed
2.
I wish to be assigned to just one case.
—the Warrigal
CoE: don't forget me!
—the Warrigal
I intend, without objection, to ratify the document consisting of the Office
and Holder columns of the table in the below report.
—the Warrigal
On Aug 28, 2014, at 5:40 PM, Tanner Swett wrote:
Offices and Reports
Date of last report: 5 Aug 14 (by Henri)
Date of this report: 28 Aug 14
I'll take a few offices. I like being the IADoP and pretending I'm in charge
of the entire game. What other offices need to be taken?
I initiate an election for the office of IADoP. I initiate an Agoran decision
to determine the new IADoP. I intend to deputise for the IADoP to resolve this
You find yourselves (all of you) seated inside what looks like some sort of
old-fashioned restaurant, with all wooden seating and tables and no electric
lighting. The interior is well lit by the afternoon sunlight coming in through
the windows to the south and west. In the northwest corner of
I register.
—the Warrigal
I vote:
7611 Murphy 2 O Obvious rule patch
ENDORSE Sprocklem
7612 ais523 2 O Dynamic Quorum
FOR
7613 Arufonsu3 O What is PERMITTED NEED NOT be POSSIBLE
FOR
—Aru
I set my flair to I won't leave! I can't just sit back and take it!
I deregister.
—Alphonse
On Dec 24, 2013, at 5:17 PM, Tanner Swett wrote:
On Dec 13, 2013, yada yada, Kerim G. Aydin wrote:
I deputize for the IADoP to initiate the Agoran Decisions to select the
holder of office of Government Waste. The vote collector is the
IADoP; the eligible voters are the active first-class
I submit a proposal with AI 3, titled What is PERMITTED NEED NOT be POSSIBLE:
Make the following amendments to Rule 2152 Mother, May I?:
Add an item to the numbered list, between the items defining MUST NOT and
SHOULD NOT, reading NEED NOT, OPTIONAL: Failing to perform the described
action
I register.
—Arufonsu Erurikku (/ˌɑrʉˈfɑnsuː ˈɛrʉˌrɪkuː/), or Arufonsu, or Aru (/ˈaruː/)
On Dec 15, 2013, at 2:12 PM, Khoyo wrote:
Khoyo
I object.
Looks like this is NTTPF. I object to whatever it is that Khoyo just tried to
object to (eir inactivation, IIRC).
—Machia—I mean, Arufonsu
I assume IADoP. I intend to publish a report PDQ.
—Aru
On Dec 15, 2013, at 4:01 PM, Tanner Swett wrote:
25 Oct 13 15:47 Nominat'n period ends for Herald; no candidates
The Agoran Decision to determine the new Herald, which does not currently
exist, has no valid options, and would not have any valid options even if it
were to exist. In place
CoE: I am the IADoP. Amended report follows.
Offices and Reports
Date of last ratified report: 22 Oct 13 (ratified 29 Oct)
Date of last report: 15 Dec 13
Date of this report: 15 Dec 13
Office HolderSince Last Report Assumption Salary
I deregister.
—Machiavelli
On Jul 28, 2013, at 11:00 AM, Tanner Swett wrote:
An exterior liberty of a chain owned by some player A is an
unoccupied Plot orthogonally adjacent to that chain with the
following property: there exist paths from the unoccupied Plot
to two different corners of the board
I vote:
7548 10 O Ienpw IIIStandardized election days
FOR
7549 2 25 O Walker Recruitment Sanity
PRESENT
7550 30 O omd Democratic Democracy Only
NO VOTE
7551 20 O omd Ministry fix and buff
PRESENT
7552 20 O omd Freshdated
FOR
7585 3
I create a persistent revocable promise titled Here, you do it, with text I
vote ENDORSE ais523 the specified number of times on each of the specified
Agoran Decisions, and I transfer it to the Tree.
—Machiavelli
On Aug 7, 2013, at 3:18 PM, omd wrote:
On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 6:28 AM, James Beirne james.m.bei...@gmail.com wrote:
Judgement: GUILTY/TIME OUT (21 days)
I intend to appeal this judgement with two support, as I disagree that
Fool's actions so far have been sufficiently severely against the
I submit a proposal, titled Seriously, Cretans, get out of here, with AI 3:
To Rule 2240 No Cretans Need Apply, append the following paragraph:
If, under some set of circumstances, a single clause of a rule conflicts with
itself (and the conflict is not between two different parts of the
I vote:
7548 10 O Ienpw IIIStandardized election days
FOR (this is unambiguous enough for my taste)
7549 2 25 O Walker Recruitment Sanity
FOR
7550 30 O omd Democratic Democracy Only
PRESENT
7551 20 O omd Ministry fix and buff
FOR (there is no Rule
I vote:
7568 30 O omd, etc. Agora pulls a B + some ratifications
PRESENT*1
—Machiavelli
On Jul 31, 2013, at 11:45 PM, Sean Hunt wrote:
I submit a criminal case, barring the Serious Party, alleging that
Fool violated Rule 101 by failing to treat Agora right good forever,
by purporting to deregister all other players and subsequently lock
them out of the game.
I favor this case.
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