Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 2040-42 assigned to Quazie

2008-06-25 Thread Ed Murphy
Quazie wrote: >> == CFJ 2040 == >> >>If a partnership is party to another contract, individual >>members of the contract may be required, by an equity settlement >From context, this should be interpreted as "individual members of t

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 2040-42 assigned to Quazie

2008-06-25 Thread Ed Murphy
Quazie wrote: > On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 9:41 PM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Wed, 25 Jun 2008, Quazie wrote: >>> This CFJ seems to be FALSE. Why should a member of a partnership >>> incur obligations when the partnership's obligations devolve onto em. >> Um, because that's very t

Re: DIS: Proto-proposal: Behalfment

2008-06-25 Thread comex
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 1:24 AM, ihope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > (as far > as I can tell, the only basis this precedent has in the rules is the > fact that contracts can send messages, but no mechanism is given by > which they can do so; also, in my opinion, this precedent is pretty > dangerous)

DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 2040-42 assigned to Quazie

2008-06-25 Thread comex
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 11:23 PM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I change all sitting players to standing. > > The following are linked assignments. > > Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2040 > > == CFJ 2040 =

DIS: Proto-proposal: Behalfment

2008-06-25 Thread ihope
Proposal, rule, power 1, indices, etc.: {The following are the only ways a public message can be sent: (a) A first-class person can send a message directly to a public forum, using whatever protocol that forum uses to accept messages. (b) If a contract states that a person can send public message

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2046 assigned to Goethe

2008-06-25 Thread ihope
Can you (all of you) please continue referring to ehrid as Teh Cltohed Mna? Calling it ehrid does nothing but make people look twice so that they know who you're referring to. --Ivan Hope CXXVII

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 2040-42 assigned to Quazie

2008-06-25 Thread Quazie
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 9:56 PM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed, 25 Jun 2008, Quazie wrote: >> On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 9:41 PM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> On Wed, 25 Jun 2008, Quazie wrote: This CFJ seems to be FALSE. Why should a member of a partnership

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 2040-42 assigned to Quazie

2008-06-25 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 25 Jun 2008, Quazie wrote: > On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 9:41 PM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> On Wed, 25 Jun 2008, Quazie wrote: >>> This CFJ seems to be FALSE. Why should a member of a partnership >>> incur obligations when the partnership's obligations devolve onto em. >> >

DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 2011-12 assigned to Murphy, Ivan Hope, woggle

2008-06-25 Thread ihope
I argue that ALREADY TRIED and its Rule 101 buddy are not appropriate, as failing to comply with the contract up until the first case was called is not the same as failing to comply after the first case was called. If I'm required to perform some action as soon as possible and I fail to do it withi

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 2040-42 assigned to Quazie

2008-06-25 Thread Quazie
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 9:41 PM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed, 25 Jun 2008, Quazie wrote: >> This CFJ seems to be FALSE. Why should a member of a partnership >> incur obligations when the partnership's obligations devolve onto em. > > Um, because that's very the definition of

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 2040-42 assigned to Quazie

2008-06-25 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 25 Jun 2008, Quazie wrote: > This CFJ seems to be FALSE. Why should a member of a partnership > incur obligations when the partnership's obligations devolve onto em. Um, because that's very the definition of obligations devolving onto em? Or how would you define it? -Goethe

DIS: Re: BUS: Correction

2008-06-25 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 25 Jun 2008, Ed Murphy wrote: > Rule 2169 (Equity Cases) was amended on May 10 so that equity cases no > longer require a judge during the pre-trial phase, but only when their > question on equation becomes applicable (which happens after the > pre-trial phase ends). This means that the

DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 2040-42 assigned to Quazie

2008-06-25 Thread Quazie
This is a very proto judgement, more me speaking my mind on the issues before I come up with a full judgement. This judgement is known to be incomplete and potentially incoherent. This will be fixed before real judging occurs. > == CFJ 2040 ==

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 2011-12 assigned to OscarMeyr

2008-06-25 Thread Ed Murphy
comex wrote: > On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 10:14 PM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> comex wrote: >> >>> I spent my 50 VP on **nothing** (pikhq took my >>> VP, called me a fool, and left the Vote Market, no longer obligated to >>> perform the action which I paid all those VP for em to do), >>

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] Docket

2008-06-25 Thread Ed Murphy
Quazie wrote: > Non-first-class: Association of Federated Organizations > Left Hand > PerlNomic Partnership > Pineapple Partnership (standing) > Protection Racket > Reformed Bank of Agora > > COE where is HP2?

DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] Docket

2008-06-25 Thread Quazie
Non-first-class: Association of Federated Organizations Left Hand PerlNomic Partnership Pineapple Partnership (standing) Protection Racket Reformed Bank of Agora COE where is HP2?

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 2011-12 assigned to OscarMeyr

2008-06-25 Thread comex
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 10:14 PM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > comex wrote: > >> I spent my 50 VP on **nothing** (pikhq took my >> VP, called me a fool, and left the Vote Market, no longer obligated to >> perform the action which I paid all those VP for em to do), > > Then why the hell ha

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Deputisation

2008-06-25 Thread Ed Murphy
Quazie wrote: > On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 6:31 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 7:26 PM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Goethe wrote: >>> By the above, Murphy's title of MwoP is administratively revoked. The long reign of Speaker Murphy has

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 2011-12 assigned to OscarMeyr

2008-06-25 Thread Ed Murphy
comex wrote: > I spent my 50 VP on **nothing** (pikhq took my > VP, called me a fool, and left the Vote Market, no longer obligated to > perform the action which I paid all those VP for em to do), Then why the hell haven't you initiated an equity case and asked for your 50 VP back?

Re: BUS: RE: DIS: RE: meh

2008-06-25 Thread Ed Murphy
Quazie wrote: > Evidence: this thread I'm not using Gmail. Please quote evidence directly. (Fortunately, in this case, you did.)

DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting results for Proposals 5556-5563

2008-06-25 Thread Ed Murphy
root wrote: > Voting results for Proposals 5556-5563: Not that it affects the results, but I recorded ais523 as voting 4P, 4P, P (rather than 4A, 4A, A) on 5559 through 5561. May have been a typo on my part. Would someone mind checking?

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Deputisation

2008-06-25 Thread Ian Kelly
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 7:37 PM, Quazie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Maybe, HP2 may have MwoP, but it hasn't had it consistently since it > was awarded MwoP. It does say "the player who has borne the Patent Title of Minister Without Portfolio the longest", not the player who was awarded it first.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Deputisation

2008-06-25 Thread Quazie
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 6:31 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 7:26 PM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Goethe wrote: >> >>> By the above, Murphy's title of MwoP is administratively revoked. >>> >>> The long reign of Speaker Murphy has come to an end! >>> >>

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Deputisation

2008-06-25 Thread Ian Kelly
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 7:31 PM, Quazie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tricky... and so we have no certain speaker until that case is judged > without appeal. In my judgement, that case has no appeal. -root

DIS: Re: BUS: And the winner is.... (Agoran Proposal Awards report)

2008-06-25 Thread Taral
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 2:45 PM, Roger Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ELIGIBLE PROPOSALS (Jun 16 - Jun 22) > -- > NUM FL AI SUBMITTER TITLE > *5412 O1 1woggle More permanant patent titles (possibly) > *5541 O0 1ais523 Motto of the Mo

DIS: Re: BUS: Deputisation

2008-06-25 Thread Ian Kelly
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 7:26 PM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Goethe wrote: > >> By the above, Murphy's title of MwoP is administratively revoked. >> >> The long reign of Speaker Murphy has come to an end! >> >> All hail Speaker root! > > Claim of error: If Human Point Two still bears Mw

DIS: Re: BUS: Deputisation

2008-06-25 Thread Quazie
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 6:26 PM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Goethe wrote: > >> By the above, Murphy's title of MwoP is administratively revoked. >> >> The long reign of Speaker Murphy has come to an end! >> >> All hail Speaker root! > > Claim of error: If Human Point Two still bears Mw

Re: BUS: RE: DIS: RE: meh

2008-06-25 Thread comex
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 9:05 PM, Quazie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.dsm.fordham.edu/~grossman/asciiwar.html Hmm...

Re: BUS: RE: DIS: RE: meh

2008-06-25 Thread Quazie
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 6:03 PM, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 9:01 PM, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 5:16 PM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: That said, I wish I could have had some more inventive ASCII art (i.e. a picture o

Re: BUS: RE: DIS: RE: meh

2008-06-25 Thread comex
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 9:01 PM, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 5:16 PM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> That said, I wish I could have had some more inventive ASCII art (i.e. >>> a picture of Phoenix Wright) but I do not know of any such pictures. >> >> http://

Re: BUS: RE: DIS: RE: meh

2008-06-25 Thread Quazie
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 6:01 PM, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 5:16 PM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> comex wrote: >> >>> That said, I wish I could have had some more inventive ASCII art (i.e. >>> a picture of Phoenix Wright) but I do not know of any such pict

Re: BUS: RE: DIS: RE: meh

2008-06-25 Thread comex
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 5:16 PM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > comex wrote: > >> That said, I wish I could have had some more inventive ASCII art (i.e. >> a picture of Phoenix Wright) but I do not know of any such pictures. > > http://www.pizzinini.net/projects/pic2ascii/ Ew, Visual Basic

DIS: Re: BUS: Blarglfarg.

2008-06-25 Thread Ed Murphy
ehird wrote: > I rename Teh Cltohed Mna to ehrid. I don't know if this was effective (contrast "Teh Cltohed Mna changes its name to ehrid" / "I act on behalf of Teh Cltohed Mna to change its name to ehrid"). In any case, it seems reasonable to treat "ehrid" as unambiguously referring to this con

DIS: Re: BUS: Reformed Bank of Agora report

2008-06-25 Thread Benjamin Schultz
On Jun 25, 2008, at 3:40 PM, Roger Hicks wrote: EXCHANGE RATES --- 570 crops 1051 crops 962 crops (none) 3 crops 484 crops 775 crops 616 crops 687 crops 938 crops 1149 crops 42Water Rights Vouchers 48Vote Points Would it be u

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Chambers

2008-06-25 Thread Ed Murphy
(Side note: N Agoran consent requires the ratio to exceed N, which for N>1 is a higher threshold than adopting an AI=N proposal. But that's okay.) BobTHJ wrote: > A chamber CAN through its own > internal mechanisms increase or decrease the power of any proposal by This should be a separate att

Re: DIS: RE: [CotC] CFJ 1945 assigned to ais523

2008-06-25 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 25 Jun 2008, Ed Murphy wrote: > Goethe wrote (mid-May): > >> Of aos' bettforos no >> se, iten dilit imetio >> rc sin the eht nth tn >> uo ahty, se, efiera >> tsthat sop ,lranhw ti >> croimge st nwod ot t >> l comdelb rof esiaru >> socwram, frequency be >> pletely dat aer oy ta >> w >> a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposals 5569-5576

2008-06-25 Thread Taral
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 1:14 PM, Elliott Hird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was expecting a bit of restraint - deregistering is not particularly novel > or > unique or funny. Things like what ais523 and Murphy did were what I was > hoping for. Unfortunately it's kind of classic. This isn't reall

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposals 5569-5576

2008-06-25 Thread Taral
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 1:07 PM, Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hoist by eir own petard Ah, thank you. Just the phrase I was looking for. -- Taral <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you." -- Unknown

Re: DIS: RE: [CotC] CFJ 1945 assigned to ais523

2008-06-25 Thread Ed Murphy
Goethe wrote (mid-May): > Of aos' bettforos no > se, iten dilit imetio > rc sin the eht nth tn > uo ahty, se, efiera > tsthat sop ,lranhw ti > croimge st nwod ot t > l comdelb rof esiaru > socwram, frequency be > pletely dat aer oy ta > w > a > ll. I never did get around to attempting to par

Re: BUS: RE: DIS: RE: meh

2008-06-25 Thread Ed Murphy
comex wrote: > That said, I wish I could have had some more inventive ASCII art (i.e. > a picture of Phoenix Wright) but I do not know of any such pictures. http://www.pizzinini.net/projects/pic2ascii/

DIS: Re: BUS: ehrid

2008-06-25 Thread Roger Hicks
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 3:04 PM, Elliott Hird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I CFJ on the following statement: ehrid devolves its obligations onto > at least two people. > > Gratuitous arguments: > > It could be that it can devolve obligations without the person it > devolves to being able to > uphol

Re: BUS: RE: DIS: RE: meh

2008-06-25 Thread comex
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 3:55 PM, Geoffrey Spear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 3:36 PM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> More further gratuitous: no-one's complained about lack of fixed-width >> fonts in reading tables like voting reports, which would be Harder. -G.

Re: DIS: player, person question

2008-06-25 Thread Quazie
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 1:26 PM, Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Quazie wrote: >>Where does it say in the rules that a person can't be more than one >>player? > > It has long been customary that the player *is* the person. Playerhood is > an attribute of persons (actually, also of non-persons

Re: DIS: player, person question

2008-06-25 Thread Zefram
Quazie wrote: >Where does it say in the rules that a person can't be more than one >player? It has long been customary that the player *is* the person. Playerhood is an attribute of persons (actually, also of non-persons now); the player is not a separate entity (an avatar). We had a very old CF

DIS: player, person question

2008-06-25 Thread Quazie
Where does it say in the rules that a person can't be more than one player? I can't seem to find that any where, though I though it was a rule (and must have been a rule at one point due to previous crises)

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposals 5569-5576

2008-06-25 Thread Elliott Hird
2008/6/25 Taral <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Perhaps. Although, to be honest, what did you expect to happen when > you posted those pledges? You could have constrained them to something > minor, like votes. I was expecting a bit of restraint - deregistering is not particularly novel or unique or funny.

Re: DIS: Proposal 5575 (the scamster one)

2008-06-25 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 25 Jun 2008, comex wrote: > On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 2:55 PM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Um, I issued a sell ticket. Only 1vp! A bargain! -Goethe > > Perhaps, but I'm afraid that if I fill it, I may shine a bad light on > myself with respect to CFJ 2011. And naturally,

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposals 5569-5576

2008-06-25 Thread Zefram
Taral wrote: >AGAINSTx11 (can power-1 proposals register people?) Yes, but it's not clear that this one would. If it said "ehird is hereby registered." then it certainly would have the effect of registering em. What it actually says is "ehird registers.", which expands to "ehird registers emself.

Re: BUS: RE: DIS: RE: meh

2008-06-25 Thread Quazie
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 12:36 PM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Wed, 25 Jun 2008, Geoffrey Spear wrote: >> On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 3:00 PM, Quazie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Gratuitous: In Gmail which doesn't easily do fixed width font, it >>> doesn't look like a word to me. >

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Easier cleanup of one-off pledges

2008-06-25 Thread comex
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 2:17 PM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Proposal: Easier cleanup of one-off pledges > (AI = 1.5, please) > > Amend Rule 2191 (Pledges) by appending this text: > > If a pledge does not impose any ongoing or unsatisfied > obligations, then any person CAN ter

Re: DIS: Proposal 5575 (the scamster one)

2008-06-25 Thread comex
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 2:55 PM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Um, I issued a sell ticket. Only 1vp! A bargain! -Goethe Perhaps, but I'm afraid that if I fill it, I may shine a bad light on myself with respect to CFJ 2011.

Re: BUS: RE: DIS: RE: meh

2008-06-25 Thread comex
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 3:36 PM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > More further gratuitous: no-one's complained about lack of fixed-width > fonts in reading tables like voting reports, which would be Harder. -G. I concur: although I am accustomed to having to click Show Original to view m

Re: BUS: RE: DIS: RE: meh

2008-06-25 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 3:36 PM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > More further gratuitous: no-one's complained about lack of fixed-width > fonts in reading tables like voting reports, which would be Harder. -G. I know at a glance that a voting report is a voting report. At a glance, thi

Re: BUS: RE: DIS: RE: meh

2008-06-25 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 25 Jun 2008, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 3:00 PM, Quazie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Gratuitous: In Gmail which doesn't easily do fixed width font, it >> doesn't look like a word to me. > > Further gratuitous: 16 of 22 first-class players were using Gmail as > of the

Re: BUS: RE: DIS: RE: meh

2008-06-25 Thread Ian Kelly
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 1:00 PM, Quazie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Gratuitous: In Gmail which doesn't easily do fixed width font, it > doesn't look like a word to me. Turn on the Gmail Labs "Fixed width font" feature. It enables a "Show in fixed width font" action which is much more convenient

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: I feel like I'm being RIPPED APART by WALNUTS

2008-06-25 Thread Ian Kelly
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 12:13 PM, Alexander Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Quazie wrote: >> My bad, you aren't, just never played a game of mafia/werewolves where >> we got to find out who voted which way... > That's pretty interesting; where I play in RL, it's considered to be the > whole poin

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposals 5569-5576

2008-06-25 Thread Taral
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 12:11 PM, Elliott Hird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/6/25 Taral <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>> 5573 O0 1Teh Cltohe comex, as e is while burning in the fire... >> AGAINSTx11 (can power-1 proposals register people?) > > Dunno. Would you vote for a version that would work

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposals 5569-5576

2008-06-25 Thread Elliott Hird
2008/6/25 Taral <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> 5573 O0 1Teh Cltohe comex, as e is while burning in the fire... > AGAINSTx11 (can power-1 proposals register people?) Dunno. Would you vote for a version that would work if the current one doesn't?

Re: DIS: RE: Re: BUS: Re: I feel like I'm being RIPPED APART by WALNUTS

2008-06-25 Thread Ian Kelly
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 12:06 PM, Alexander Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Quazie wrote: >> You seem to be inviolation of the contract: > No e isn't. For reference: > > Look at 3d. The contestmaster is required to disclose

Re: BUS: RE: DIS: RE: meh

2008-06-25 Thread Taral
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 12:00 PM, Quazie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Gratuitous: In Gmail which doesn't easily do fixed width font, it > doesn't look like a word to me. Gratuitous: I consider "Show Original" to be pretty easy. -- Taral <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Please let me know if there's any furt

Re: BUS: RE: DIS: RE: meh

2008-06-25 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 3:00 PM, Quazie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Gratuitous: In Gmail which doesn't easily do fixed width font, it > doesn't look like a word to me. Further gratuitous: 16 of 22 first-class players were using Gmail as of the last registrar's report.

Re: BUS: RE: DIS: RE: meh

2008-06-25 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 25 Jun 2008, Quazie wrote: >> That's like questioning a message on the basis of not knowing what >> font an email reader will render it in. Gratuitous: was perfectly >> clear to me! -G. > Gratuitous: In Gmail which doesn't easily do fixed width font, it > doesn't look like a word to me.

Re: BUS: RE: DIS: RE: meh

2008-06-25 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 25 Jun 2008, Quazie wrote: >> ___ _ _ _ ___ ___ _ _ _ >> / _ \| __ )| | / ___|_ _|_ _/ _ \| \ | | | >> | | | | _ \ _ | | _|| | | | | | | | | \| | | >> | |_| | |_) | |_| | |__| |___ | | | | |_| | |\ |_| >> \___/|/ \___/|_\| |_|

Re: DIS: Proposal 5575 (the scamster one)

2008-06-25 Thread Kerim Aydin
Um, I issued a sell ticket. Only 1vp! A bargain! -Goethe On Wed, 25 Jun 2008, comex wrote: > People who voted FOR: Do you actually _want_ to award me Scamster > against my will? > > If so, is there any way I can bribe you not to? >

RE: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: I feel like I'm being RIPPED APART by WALNUTS

2008-06-25 Thread Alexander Smith
Quazie wrote: > My bad, you aren't, just never played a game of mafia/werewolves where > we got to find out who voted which way... That's pretty interesting; where I play in RL, it's considered to be the whole point of the game. People have to vote publically and can change their vote at any time,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: I feel like I'm being RIPPED APART by WALNUTS

2008-06-25 Thread Quazie
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 11:08 AM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 12:04 PM, Quazie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> You seem to be inviolation of the contract: >> >> 13) The contestmaster SHALL NOT disclose the following, except as >> required: >> >> a) Whether a mem

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: I feel like I'm being RIPPED APART by WALNUTS

2008-06-25 Thread Quazie
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 11:04 AM, Quazie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 11:15 AM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> ehird wrote: >> >>> I agree to the following, which actually works: >>> >>> { >>> This is a pledge. >>> Anything may act on behalf of ehird by announcement

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: I feel like I'm being RIPPED APART by WALNUTS

2008-06-25 Thread Ian Kelly
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 12:04 PM, Quazie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You seem to be inviolation of the contract: > > 13) The contestmaster SHALL NOT disclose the following, except as > required: > > a) Whether a member is a werewolf. > > b) Whether a member has voted to lynch a nominee. > >

DIS: RE: Re: BUS: Re: I feel like I'm being RIPPED APART by WALNUTS

2008-06-25 Thread Alexander Smith
Quazie wrote: > You seem to be inviolation of the contract: No e isn't. For reference: Look at 3d. The contestmaster is required to disclose votes at the end of the voting period, and the bit you quoted said "except as require

Re: DIS: Proto: Scam Busting (with Fruit)

2008-06-25 Thread Ed Murphy
Pavitra wrote: > I would actually much rather have > an explicit list of parsimonious actions. The Kudos system (c. April 2003 - October 2005) worked this way: * Various actions could be performed by "paying a Fee". * Each quarter, each player's Kudos were reset to the Tabula Rasa (5 t

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: I feel like I'm being RIPPED APART by WALNUTS

2008-06-25 Thread Quazie
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 11:15 AM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ehird wrote: > >> I agree to the following, which actually works: >> >> { >> This is a pledge. >> Anything may act on behalf of ehird by announcement. >> } > > As authorized by this contract, I act on behalf of ehird to cast e

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Werewolves session 1

2008-06-25 Thread Ian Kelly
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 12:00 PM, Quazie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 12:43 AM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I hereby initiate Werewolves session 1. >> >> * Townspersons: 8 (root, Zefram, Wooble, ais523, >> ehird, comex, Quazie, Pavitra) >>

DIS: Re: BUS: Werewolves session 1

2008-06-25 Thread Quazie
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 12:43 AM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I hereby initiate Werewolves session 1. > > * Townspersons: 8 (root, Zefram, Wooble, ais523, > ehird, comex, Quazie, Pavitra) > * Werewolves: 2 (have been privately informed) > * Optional roles: Seer

Re: DIS: Proposal 5575 (the scamster one)

2008-06-25 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 1:49 PM, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > People who voted FOR: Do you actually _want_ to award me Scamster > against my will? Yes. If you didn't want the patent title, you shouldn't have shown so much enthusiasm for perpetrating scams.

Re: BUS: RE: DIS: RE: meh

2008-06-25 Thread comex
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 1:53 PM, Quazie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I CFJ on the following statement: Comex objected to the termination of > the pledge which allows anything to act on behalf of ehird. > Evidence: this thread Evidence: I once joined a contest (don't remember which one) in this man

DIS: Minor delay

2008-06-25 Thread Ed Murphy
Last night's planned judicial catch-up was subverted by a focus group and a new Wii. Expect updates tonight.

DIS: Proposal 5575 (the scamster one)

2008-06-25 Thread comex
People who voted FOR: Do you actually _want_ to award me Scamster against my will? If so, is there any way I can bribe you not to?

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Blarglfarg.

2008-06-25 Thread Elliott Hird
2008/6/25 Roger Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 10:55 AM, Quazie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Why isn't it a person? >> > In order to be a partnership it must devolve its legal obligations > onto a subset of its parties numbering at least two. Presently it only > devolves its

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Blarglfarg.

2008-06-25 Thread Roger Hicks
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 10:55 AM, Quazie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why isn't it a person? > In order to be a partnership it must devolve its legal obligations onto a subset of its parties numbering at least two. Presently it only devolves its legal obligations onto ehird. BobTHJ

Re: DIS: RE: Re: BUS: Fwd: Prerogative assignments for July

2008-06-25 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 12:43 PM, Alexander Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Either that or root's trying to > fake the results for some reason... I'd like to think e'd be smart enough to assign emself a prerogative with a useful power in that case. It's not like any proposals have had trouble r

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Blarglfarg.

2008-06-25 Thread Quazie
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 9:48 AM, Roger Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 10:43 AM, Ben Caplan > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Wednesday 25 June 2008 11:36:02 Roger Hicks wrote: >>> On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 12:48 PM, Elliott Hird >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> > I chan

Re: DIS: RE: Re: BUS: Fwd: Prerogative assignments for July

2008-06-25 Thread Ian Kelly
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 10:43 AM, Alexander Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Pavitra wrote: >> Am I the only one who's getting a "bad signature" error? > As far as I can tell, root sent the assignments to all four MwoPs, > but not to the mailing list. Presumably you got a forwarded version, > the

Re: DIS: RE: BUS: Blarglfarg.

2008-06-25 Thread Elliott Hird
2008/6/25 Roger Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > You would threaten the Godfather? I submit the following: > > Sell Ticket > Cost: 5VP > Action: not object to the termination of the pledge that permits > players to act on behalf of ehird > > BobTHJ > Nice try.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Fwd: Prerogative assignments for July

2008-06-25 Thread Ian Kelly
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 10:41 AM, Ben Caplan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> -- Forwarded message -- >> From: Dice server <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Am I the only one who's getting a "bad signature" error? I didn't attempt to check it, I just forwarded it. I'll take a look later. -roo

DIS: RE: Re: BUS: Fwd: Prerogative assignments for July

2008-06-25 Thread Alexander Smith
Pavitra wrote: > Am I the only one who's getting a "bad signature" error? As far as I can tell, root sent the assignments to all four MwoPs, but not to the mailing list. Presumably you got a forwarded version, then, rather than the original, which would therefore be a modified version and not sign

DIS: Re: BUS: Blarglfarg.

2008-06-25 Thread Ben Caplan
On Wednesday 25 June 2008 11:36:02 Roger Hicks wrote: > On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 12:48 PM, Elliott Hird > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I change the Manroster to ehird. > > I rename Teh Cltohed Mna to ehrid. > > > > Since it is no longer a person and has never been a first-class > person, I cause

Re: DIS: RE: BUS: Blarglfarg.

2008-06-25 Thread Elliott Hird
2008/6/25 Alexander Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I tried arguing this one with ehird (the first-class person) privately > earlier; eir argument was that the contract still devolved its obligations > onto Ivan Hope CXXVII even though e had no way of causing it to fulfil > them. I'm not sure if this

DIS: Re: BUS: Fwd: Prerogative assignments for July

2008-06-25 Thread Ben Caplan
> -- Forwarded message -- > From: Dice server <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Am I the only one who's getting a "bad signature" error? Pavitra

DIS: RE: BUS: Blarglfarg.

2008-06-25 Thread Alexander Smith
BobTHJ wrote: > Since it is no longer a person and has never been a first-class > person, I cause the contract formerly known as Teh Cltohed Mna and now > known as ehird to deregister per R869. I tried arguing this one with ehird (the first-class person) privately earlier; eir argument was that the

DIS: Re: BUS: Fwd: Prerogative assignments for July

2008-06-25 Thread Roger Hicks
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 10:20 AM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I award Default Justice to BobTHJ A decisive victory for the Protection Racket! oops...did I say that out loud? BobTHJ

DIS: Re: BUS: RE: AAA - Secretary of Agriculture Report

2008-06-25 Thread Roger Hicks
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 11:40 AM, Alexander Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > BobTHJ wrote: >> Federal Subsidy: 7 > I request subsidy. > I create a Mill (land #104) with an Operator of - (Subtraction) and a WRV in the possession of ais523. SoA BobTHJ

DIS: Proto: Faster decisions

2008-06-25 Thread Ben Caplan
Amend R208 by replacing paragraph (a) to read:       (a) Either: (i) it is published after the voting period has ended, or (ii) each eligible voter has submitted at least one vaild ballot on it. Pavitra

Re: DIS: RE: meh

2008-06-25 Thread Elliott Hird
2008/6/25 Alexander Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > How? I can attempt to terminate it without objection if you like, > but someone might object. > -- > ais523 > Er, that'd be nice. ehird

DIS: RE: meh

2008-06-25 Thread Alexander Smith
ehird wrote: > I leave the pledge that talks about things being able to perform > actions on my behalf. How? I can attempt to terminate it without objection if you like, but someone might object. -- ais523 <>

DIS: Re: BUS: meh

2008-06-25 Thread Charles Reiss
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 9:27 AM, Elliott Hird < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I leave the pledge that talks about things being able to perform > actions on my behalf. How?

Re: DIS: Notary (proto-)report: Now in delicious colou^H^H^H^H^HHTML!

2008-06-25 Thread Elliott Hird
2008/6/25 Taral <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Ah. May I refer Sir to a copy of the DOM Level 2 Events specification, then? > > -- > Taral <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > "Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you." > -- Unknown > There is little point. The link is non-functional without JS,

DIS: Re: BUS: RE: distribution of proposals 5569-5576

2008-06-25 Thread Roger Hicks
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 3:05 AM, Alexander Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> 5570 D1 3BobTHJ Chambers > AGAINST, and I pledge to vote AGAINST any similar proposal in the > near future unless its II is at least 2, changing the proposal > system like that requires much more review than a

DIS: RE: BUS: Criminal cases

2008-06-25 Thread Alexander Smith
comex wrote: > Well, sheesh! I've had finals for a week and I go and forget about > some CFJs, and you initiate a criminal case? I think the CFJs might > be equally quickly resolved if you, y'know, just reminded me about > them. Actually, this is a token attempt at revenge for deregistering ehird

DIS: Protopseudocontest: Agoran Mao

2008-06-25 Thread Alexander Smith
This is a proto-contract, intended eventually to become a PRS-based pseduocontest (although I'm writing it so it could also become a real contest). I'm already writing some draft Regulations, which for obvious reasons I will not proto. However, the contract is drafted in such a way as to give vari

Re: DIS: Proto: Scam Busting (with Fruit)

2008-06-25 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 11:44 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > there are few days during > which *every* active first-class player performs at least one > parsimonious action. I'd say it's incredibly rare that *every* active first class player sends a message to any of the mailing lists

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