On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 12:42 AM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 10:45 PM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Sgeo wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 11:35 PM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>> May I host the Agoran Coat of Arms, or may I link to y
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 10:45 PM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sgeo wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 11:35 PM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> May I host the Agoran Coat of Arms, or may I link to your copy, or
>> should I just remove the image?
>
> I didn't create it. I ass
http://sgeo.diagonalfish.net/agora/newmain.htm includes a bit about
the Monster and also the image is now on my site. I'm going to sleep
now, comments on what's currently up?
On Thursday 23 October 2008 11:03:50 pm Sgeo wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 11:35 PM, Ed Murphy
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> May I host the Agoran Coat of Arms, or may I link to your copy, or
> should I just remove the image?
This raises some interesting questions. What is the copyright st
Sgeo wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 11:35 PM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> May I host the Agoran Coat of Arms, or may I link to your copy, or
> should I just remove the image?
I didn't create it. I assume that the original creator (whoever it
was) would be good with you hosting it
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 5:14 PM, Sgeo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 5:00 PM, warrigal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 4:55 PM, warrigal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> {This is a public contract and a pledge. The name of this contract is
>>> the Agoran Lo
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 11:35 PM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
May I host the Agoran Coat of Arms, or may I link to your copy, or
should I just remove the image?
On Thursday 23 October 2008 10:05:12 pm Sgeo wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 9:53 PM, Pavitra wrote:
> > The paragraphs on Canada and Frankenstein might be updated to
> > discuss recent events.
>
> What recent events wrt Canada, exactly? Do you mean the nomic that
> was named after the situation?
Sgeo wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 9:53 PM, Pavitra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> The phrasing "watchers can also register" is misleading.
>>
> That's in the original. Not sure how it can be fixed..
"By custom, watchers can also be listed in the registrar's report
by request."
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 9:53 PM, Pavitra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thursday 23 October 2008 08:07:35 pm Sgeo wrote:
>> Comments?
>
> s/Forums/Fora/
> s/Zephram/Zefram/
>
> The paragraphs on Canada and Frankenstein might be updated to discuss
> recent events.
>
What recent events wrt Canada, e
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 10:17 PM, Pavitra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Er, right.
> What's the word for the truth-value of "this statement is true"? I
> can't find it on Wikipedia.
>
> Indeterminate?
>
> Floyd?
I don't know that there is a generally-accepted term; I don't think
'circular' is often
On Thursday 23 October 2008 09:09:23 pm Geoffrey Spear wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 9:47 PM, Pavitra
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > which I think is what this is trying to get at, the concept of
> > logical tautology.
>
> A statement that could possibly be false is not a tautology.
Er, right.
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 9:47 PM, Pavitra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> which I think is what this is trying to get at, the concept of logical
> tautology.
A statement that could possibly be false is not a tautology.
On Thursday 23 October 2008 08:07:35 pm Sgeo wrote:
> Comments?
s/Forums/Fora/
s/Zephram/Zefram/
The paragraphs on Canada and Frankenstein might be updated to discuss
recent events.
The phrasing "watchers can also register" is misleading.
On Thursday 23 October 2008 04:10:14 pm Elliott Hird wrote:
>* FLOYD, appropriate if the statement was logically capable
> of being described as either true or false with equal accuracy
Accuracy may be equally "not much" (.01==.01). Probably better to say
something like:
* FLOYD, ap
On Oct 23, 2008, at 5:12 AM, Ed Murphy wrote:
I respectfully decline to be awarded Bard on the grounds of my
sonnet, on account of I was required to write it (as an apology
for CFJ 1993, in lieu of a word list).
Having your apology qualify for Goethe's Bard drive was, in fact,
part of my in
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 9:12 PM, Elliott Hird
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 24/10/2008, Sgeo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> http://sgeo.diagonalfish.net/agora/newmain.htm is an updated version
>> of agoranomic.org, so perhaps Taral might use this..
>> Comments?
>> Thanks to woggle for help with so
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 9:15 PM, Elliott Hird
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 24/10/2008, Elliott Hird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On 24/10/2008, Sgeo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> http://sgeo.diagonalfish.net/agora/newmain.htm is an updated version
>>> of agoranomic.org, so perhaps Taral might
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 9:16 PM, Sgeo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 9:12 PM, Elliott Hird
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On 24/10/2008, Sgeo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> http://sgeo.diagonalfish.net/agora/newmain.htm is an updated version
>>> of agoranomic.org, so perhaps
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 9:12 PM, Elliott Hird
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 24/10/2008, Sgeo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> http://sgeo.diagonalfish.net/agora/newmain.htm is an updated version
>> of agoranomic.org, so perhaps Taral might use this..
>> Comments?
>> Thanks to woggle for help with so
On 24/10/2008, Elliott Hird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 24/10/2008, Sgeo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> http://sgeo.diagonalfish.net/agora/newmain.htm is an updated version
>> of agoranomic.org, so perhaps Taral might use this..
>> Comments?
>> Thanks to woggle for help with some content!
>>
> P
On 24/10/2008, Sgeo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://sgeo.diagonalfish.net/agora/newmain.htm is an updated version
> of agoranomic.org, so perhaps Taral might use this..
> Comments?
> Thanks to woggle for help with some content!
>
Please don't abuse murphy's slow machine.
http://sgeo.diagonalfish.net/agora/newmain.htm is an updated version
of agoranomic.org, so perhaps Taral might use this..
Comments?
Thanks to woggle for help with some content!
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 15:53, Pavitra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think we should create a more general solution. Rather than each
> person be either a party to a given contract or not, there should be
> a third state, that a person can be a witness to a given contract.
> Witnesses are consider
On Thursday 23 October 2008 03:40:51 pm Alexander Smith wrote:
> Wooble wrote:
> > I hereby initiate an equity case regarding the Protection Racket
> > contract, the parties to which are Wooble, ehird, and BobTHJ.
> > ehird and BobTHJ are, and have been for quite some time, in
> > material breach
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 5:00 PM, warrigal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 4:55 PM, warrigal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> {This is a public contract and a pledge. The name of this contract is
>> the Agoran Loan Service. The Lender is Warrigal. Any person can join
>> this contra
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 4:55 PM, warrigal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> {This is a public contract and a pledge. The name of this contract is
> the Agoran Loan Service. The Lender is Warrigal. Any person can join
> this contract by announcement. Any person who is not the Lender and
> whose Debt is 0
{This is a public contract and a pledge. The name of this contract is
the Agoran Loan Service. The Lender is Warrigal. Any person can join
this contract by announcement. Any person who is not the Lender and
whose Debt is 0 can leave this contract by announcement.
Every person has a Debt, initially
Wooble wrote:
> I hereby initiate an equity case regarding the Protection Racket
> contract, the parties to which are Wooble, ehird, and BobTHJ. ehird
> and BobTHJ are, and have been for quite some time, in material breach
> of Section 11 of the contract by remaining Supine and thus ineligible
> t
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 09:32, Roger Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 11:37, Charles Reiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I PBA-withdraw an X crop.
> Fails. the PBA has no X crops.
>
Correction: This was effective after all.
BobTHJ
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 14:02, Elliott Hird
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 23 Oct 2008, at 21:00, Roger Hicks wrote:
>
>> You're showing ais523 depositing an X crop as part of the original
>> bank run scam. To the best of my knowledge e did not. Therefore it can
>> not withdraw it later.
>
>
> I'm
On 23 Oct 2008, at 21:00, Roger Hicks wrote:
You're showing ais523 depositing an X crop as part of the original
bank run scam. To the best of my knowledge e did not. Therefore it can
not withdraw it later.
I'm pretty sure e did, considering e wrote that log.
--
ehird
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 13:12, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Thu, 23 Oct 2008, Ed Murphy wrote:
>> == CFJ 2215 ==
>>BobTHJ created 11 crops in ais523's possession when e should
>>have only created 9 [3 for harvesting
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 13:14, Elliott Hird
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> @BobTHJ: A program has now verified that yes, it did have an X crop. It's
> probably in
> the history somewhere.
>
You're showing ais523 depositing an X crop as part of the original
bank run scam. To the best of my knowledge e
On 23 Oct 2008, at 20:40, Ed Murphy wrote:
Proposal: The Monster has reached critical mass
How dare you. It's a good thing we be exporting that thing into B!!
--
ehird
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 13:11, Geoffrey Spear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I hereby initiate an equity case regarding the Protection Racket
> contract, the parties to which are Wooble, ehird, and BobTHJ. ehird
> and BobTHJ are, and have been for quite some time, in material breach
> of Section 11
ehird wrote:
> On 23 Oct 2008, at 19:54, Ed Murphy wrote:
>> I'm treating this as ineffective until/unless you produce some
>> convincing evidence that such a contract exists and has Sgeo and
>> you as parties.
>
> Well, Sgeo is a party even if e doesn't know it.
>
> You happen to be a party too
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 3:35 PM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Though it does raise something: it it even possible for a contract
> under equity to impose CANNOTs (as opposed to SHALL NOTs) on rules-
> controlled actions enabled by a CAN? Any opinions?
I'd say no, that contracts can't
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 3:35 PM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Thu, 23 Oct 2008, Elliott Hird wrote:
>> On 23 Oct 2008, at 20:20, Kerim Aydin wrote:
>>> Show us why we all are, please? -G.
>>
>> I'd love to, but that'd violate section 7.
>
> [Shrug] okay, one more bit of noise to i
On 23 Oct 2008, at 20:26, Elliott Hird wrote:
OK, now you can look.
--
ehird
Note - the stuff the PBA has is just from root's leaving.
It calculates for the version of the PBA (soon to be resolved) where
it's just
destroyed. Although when that's resolved, all the PBA's coins are
des
On 23 Oct 2008, at 20:20, Kerim Aydin wrote:
Show us why we all are, please? -G.
I'd love to, but that'd violate section 7.
--
ehird
On 23 Oct 2008, at 20:14, Elliott Hird wrote:
http://agora.eso-std.org/pba-report
New report format. Stuff was different, I messed up, this is made
by a program, it's
correct.
Comments welcome.
@BobTHJ: A program has now verified that yes, it did have an X
crop. It's probably in
the his
On Thu, 23 Oct 2008, Elliott Hird wrote:
> On 23 Oct 2008, at 19:54, Ed Murphy wrote:
>> I'm treating this as ineffective until/unless you produce some
>> convincing evidence that such a contract exists and has Sgeo and
>> you as parties.
>
> Well, Sgeo is a party even if e doesn't know it.
>
> Yo
On 23 Oct 2008, at 20:14, Elliott Hird wrote:
http://agora.eso-std.org/pba-report
New report format. Stuff was different, I messed up, this is made
by a program, it's
correct.
Comments welcome.
@BobTHJ: A program has now verified that yes, it did have an X
crop. It's probably in
the his
On 23 Oct 2008, at 19:54, Ed Murphy wrote:
I'm treating this as ineffective until/unless you produce some
convincing evidence that such a contract exists and has Sgeo and
you as parties.
Well, Sgeo is a party even if e doesn't know it.
You happen to be a party too, I believe you are obligated
http://agora.eso-std.org/pba-report
New report format. Stuff was different, I messed up, this is made by
a program, it's
correct.
Comments welcome.
@BobTHJ: A program has now verified that yes, it did have an X crop.
It's probably in
the history somewhere.
--
ehird
ehird wrote:
> I initiate an equity case against the Revised Mousetrap, which has
> Sgeo and I as
> parties, arguing that objecting to a ratification attempt made by
> ehird is forbidden by
> section 5.
I'm treating this as ineffective until/unless you produce some
convincing evidence that su
comex wrote:
> I become sitting.
No-op, you already were. (I updated the database and the report's
recent-events list, but missed updating the report's current-status
list until some time last night.)
Warrigal wrote:
> I hear we have a truthiness rule again. Therefore, if possible, I vote:
>
>> 5806 D 0 2.0 Wooble Stuck Offices
> LLAMA (FOR if ais523 or Murphy has a valid vote FOR the proposal,
> AGAINST otherwise)
NttPF
Sgeo wrote:
>> 5804 D 0 2.0 woggle Power public contracts
> ENDORSE Agora
I'm treating this as ineffective unless you specify what you mean
by it. (Quazie batted around a few definitions several months ago,
but I don't want to assume which one of them you may have intended.)
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 11:36 AM, Geoffrey Spear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 10:14 AM, Elliott Hird
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I add a rule titled "blah", power=3, number=9997: {Upon the adoption of this
>> rule rule is hereby repealed, then this rule is hereby re
ehird wrote:
> {{
> Without objection I intend to ratify the following report
> (scope=FLR): {There is a rule titled "IRC Ratification" with the
> number , the power 3, and the text {An intent to ratify can be
> made & resolved in the IRC channel ##nomic on irc.freenode.net, and
> an
On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 13:38, Geoffrey Spear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I PBA-withdraw a WRV.
Fails.
> I transfer a WRV to the PNP
OK.
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 2:12 AM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I respectfully decline to be awarded Bard on the grounds of my
> sonnet, on account of I was required to write it (as an apology
> for CFJ 1993, in lieu of a word list).
So?
--
Taral <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
"Please let me know i
On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 15:52, Charles Reiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I mill 4 * 8 = X.
>
> I mill 4 / 7 = X.
>
> I mill 4 / 7 = X.
>
> I mill 3 - 4 = X.
>
> I mill 3 + 7 = X.
>
The last of these fails as you are short a 7 crop.
BobTHJ
On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 18:02, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I RBoA-withdraw as many X crops as I can (I think this costs 825 chits).
> I RBoA-withdraw as many WRVs as I can (I think this costs 1000 chits).
These are both 0.
> I intend to change the RBoA's coin exchange to 20.
Intend all
On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 14:14, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I RBoA-deposit 3 3 crops for 195 chits.
> I RBoA-deposit 2 4 crops for 50 chits.
> I RBoA-deposit 3 8 crops for 165 chits.
+410 chits. You now have 415 chits total.
> I RBoA-withdraw 2 C# credits for 110 chits.
> I RBoA-withdraw
Pavitra wrote:
> On Wednesday 22 October 2008 05:00:14 pm Alex Smith wrote:
> > - time of this report -
> ...
> > Sat 6 Dec 23:21:25 The Monster becomes a senator.
> ...
> > Mon 5 Jan 22:19:33 oklopol can name a mentor.
> > Thu 8 Jan 00:53:07 0x44 can name a mentor.
>
> IMHO this shou
On 23 Oct 2008, at 16:32, comex wrote:
Why exactly would this work?
Do you like fruit pancakes?
--
ehird
On 23 Oct 2008, at 16:43, Roger Hicks wrote:
Nope...it sure didn'tunless you can tell me where it came from.
Oh...okay. oO( Good thing my script will sort this out... good thing
ratification will
sort this out... )
--
ehird
Elliott Hird wrote:
> Without objection I intend to ratify the following report
Patent rubbish.
>I add a rule titled "blah", power=3, number=9997: {Upon the adoption
>of this rule rule is hereby repealed, then this rule is hereby
>repealed.}
If this were to work, then the FLRs that yo
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 09:34, Elliott Hird
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 23 Oct 2008, at 16:32, Roger Hicks wrote:
>
>> Fails. the PBA has no X crops.
>
>
> Um, if you check my online report, I already processed these actions. It did
> have one,
> but e took it out.
>
Nope...it sure didn'tun
On 23 Oct 2008, at 16:32, Roger Hicks wrote:
Fails. the PBA has no X crops.
Um, if you check my online report, I already processed these actions.
It did have one,
but e took it out.
--
ehird
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 10:14 AM, Elliott Hird
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> {{
> Without objection I intend to ratify the following report
> (scope=FLR): {There is a rule titled "IRC Ratification" with the number
> , the power 3, and the text {An intent to ratify can be made & resolved
> in th
On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 11:37, Charles Reiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I RBoA-deposit 60 coins.
You now have 700 chits.
> I PBA-deposit a 2 crop.
OK
> I PBA-withdraw an X crop.
Fails. the PBA has no X crops.
BobTHJ
On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 09:38, Alex Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I deposit 2 VP in the RBoA. This gains me 140 Chits.
You are now at 147 chits.
> I withdraw a 3 Crop from the RBoA for 72 Chits.
> I deposit a 3 Crop in the PBA for ^12.
> I deposit 12 Coins in the RBoA for 120 Chits.
> I withd
On 23 Oct 2008, at 16:07, Roger Hicks wrote:
Per the AAA the PBA only has one 5 crop. I'm considering it to be
withdrawn unless I hear otherwise from ehird.
OK, my web report assumes it all works, and I'm writing a script to
manage all this for
me, so no immediate fix, but I will include t
On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 09:34, Geoffrey Spear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I PBA-withdraw five 5 crops (for 85 coins if my math skills are
> working today), or as many 5 crops as I can if my math skills aren't
> working.
>
> --Wooble
>
Per the AAA the PBA only has one 5 crop. I'm considering it to
On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 10:05 PM, Pavitra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wednesday 22 October 2008 08:34:18 pm comex wrote:
>> Hmm. I should concatenate 1000 Bayes proposals, and stick an
>> intent to ratify in there.
>
> CFJ 1125
:(
On 23 Oct 2008, at 00:03, Ian Kelly wrote:
I RBoA-deposit 154 coins for 1540 chits.
I RBoA-withdraw 5 X crops for 825 chits.
I destroy all my remaining chits.
I leave all banks to which I am a party.
-root
Works fine.
On 23 Oct 2008, at 01:02, Ed Murphy wrote:
I have 482 chits, plus (* = D
I hear we have a truthiness rule again. Therefore, if possible, I vote:
> 5806 D 0 2.0 Wooble Stuck Offices
LLAMA (FOR if ais523 or Murphy has a valid vote FOR the proposal,
AGAINST otherwise)
--Warrigal of Escher
BobTHJ wrote:
> If possible I transfer a prop from ais523 to ehird for having to put
> up with this scam again.
Not possible, you can only transfer a prop once per week.
> Nevermind. If possible I transfer a prop from ehird to Taral (the
> largest stakeholder in the RBOA besides myself).
Ditto.
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