Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Registration

2009-05-13 Thread Elliott Hird
On 2009-05-14, Sean Hunt wrote: > Geoffrey Spear wrote: >> On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 8:56 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: >>> Manuel Lanctot wrote: I register. ~Manu >>> I award Manu a White Ribbon. >> >> Fails, this is not the first time Manu has registered. > Oh, really? My bad. > Quoth the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Registration

2009-05-13 Thread Sean Hunt
Geoffrey Spear wrote: > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 8:56 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: >> Manuel Lanctot wrote: >>> I register. >>> >>> ~Manu >> I award Manu a White Ribbon. > > Fails, this is not the first time Manu has registered. Oh, really? My bad.

DIS: Re: BUS: Registration

2009-05-13 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 8:56 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: > Manuel Lanctot wrote: >> I register. >> >> ~Manu > > I award Manu a White Ribbon. Fails, this is not the first time Manu has registered.

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting results for Proposals 6226 - 6230 and 6232 - 6236

2009-05-13 Thread Sean Hunt
Aaron Goldfein wrote: > > > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 7:10 PM, Sean Hunt > wrote: > > Ed Murphy wrote: > > *6233 D0 2.0 Yally Cleaning Rule 2179 > > > 6226 6227 6228 6229 6230 6231 6232 6233 6234 6235 > > > > ais523

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting results for Proposals 6226 - 6230 and 6232 - 6236

2009-05-13 Thread Aaron Goldfein
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 7:10 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: > Ed Murphy wrote: > > *6233 D0 2.0 Yally Cleaning Rule 2179 > > > 6226 6227 6228 6229 6230 6231 6232 6233 6234 6235 > > > > ais523F F A F F A A F F F > > Arnold Br P

DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting results for Proposals 6226 - 6230 and 6232 - 6236

2009-05-13 Thread Sean Hunt
Ed Murphy wrote: > *6233 D0 2.0 Yally Cleaning Rule 2179 > 6226 6227 6228 6229 6230 6231 6232 6233 6234 6235 > > ais523F F A F F A A F F F > Arnold Br P P A F A F A F A F > comex

Re: DIS: yeah, what about it

2009-05-13 Thread Aaron Goldfein
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 6:36 PM, Elliott Hird < penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com> wrote: > This message is intended to be public according to the rules of Agora > Nomic. > > A public message is a message sent via a public forum, or sent > to all players and containing a clear designation

Re: DIS: Proto: Just my opinion

2009-05-13 Thread Quazie
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 6:20 PM, comex wrote: > Proto: Just my opinion > > [It seems to me that a lot of voters read a proposal, decide whether > they like the intent of it, and vote based on that, without > remembering potentially important criticisms (or praise!) levied by > other players when i

DIS: yeah, what about it

2009-05-13 Thread Elliott Hird
This message is intended to be public according to the rules of Agora Nomic. A public message is a message sent via a public forum, or sent to all players and containing a clear designation of intent to be public. A person "publishes" or "announces" something by sending a

DIS: Re: BUS: Contest: Wacky World

2009-05-13 Thread Sean Hunt
Roger Hicks wrote: > Based loosely upon B-Nomic's Field, and other similar nomic constructs > of the past. Please comment and/or join. Note that the provision in > the second paragraph should permit me to patch obvious issues I may > have overlooked without having to continually revise/rejoin. I ag

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2485 assigned to OscarMeyr

2009-05-13 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 6:54 PM, Benjamin Schultz wrote: > Would there be significant opposition to me handing down a ruling directing > the ALS to wind up its affairs and disband? Not from me.

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2485 assigned to OscarMeyr

2009-05-13 Thread Benjamin Schultz
On May 12, 2009, at 6:39 PM, Geoffrey Spear wrote: On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 6:27 PM, Benjamin Schultz wrote: On May 12, 2009, at 6:03 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2485 == Equity Case 2485 =

Re: DIS: Card Proto

2009-05-13 Thread Sean Hunt
Kerim Aydin wrote: > I protoed the following July 17 2008, there were many comments > (including from you Quazie ;) ) but I never followed up with an > amended version. > > > Proto-Proposal: the Return of cards. > > For now, lays out a framework for cards and changes prerogatives > to cards, s

Re: DIS: Proto: Just my opinion

2009-05-13 Thread Taral
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 3:20 PM, comex wrote: > Proto: Just my opinion Opinion: s/one paragraph/100 words/ -- Taral "Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you." -- Unknown

DIS: Proto: Just my opinion

2009-05-13 Thread comex
Proto: Just my opinion [It seems to me that a lot of voters read a proposal, decide whether they like the intent of it, and vote based on that, without remembering potentially important criticisms (or praise!) levied by other players when it was proposed. As it can take up to a week for a proposa

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Forming the IBA

2009-05-13 Thread Taral
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 2:54 PM, comex wrote: > Hmm.  As long as the vote collector (currently the initiator of the > motion, by default) is required to prominently mention who left, I'm > okay with it, although I don't think it's very likely that a Terrible > Motion will pass. True. I think, act

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Forming the IBA

2009-05-13 Thread comex
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 5:44 PM, Taral wrote: > If a player votes KILL on a Motion, eir vote is counted as a vote > AGAINST that Motion. Additionally, if the Motion passes, then: > > a) If that player has no pending Offers, then e ceases to become a > party to the contract at the same time. > b) O

DIS: Re: BUS: Forming the IBA

2009-05-13 Thread Taral
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 2:35 PM, comex wrote: > I agree to the following contract: Looks good. I'd like to see something like this: If a player votes KILL on a Motion, eir vote is counted as a vote AGAINST that Motion. Additionally, if the Motion passes, then: a) If that player has no pending O

Re: DIS: Card Proto

2009-05-13 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 13 May 2009, Quazie wrote: > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> >> I protoed the following July 17 2008, there were many comments >> (including from you Quazie ;) ) but I never followed up with an >> amended version. >> > This is an updated proto though? Yes? > This

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Attn: Elections Failing Quorum

2009-05-13 Thread Aaron Goldfein
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 4:04 PM, Aaron Goldfein wrote: > > > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Alex Smith wrote: > >> On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 11:46 -0600, Sean Hunt wrote: >> > On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Aaron Goldfein >> wrote: >> > > These elections are failing quorum and will soon have to

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Legislative Dominance

2009-05-13 Thread Quazie
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 5:02 PM, Aaron Goldfein wrote: > > > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 2:45 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> >> On Wed, 13 May 2009, Taral wrote: >> > I guess I'm a little touchy right now because the game has been very >> > chaotic recently. >> >> I submit the following proposal, Tap the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Attn: Elections Failing Quorum

2009-05-13 Thread Aaron Goldfein
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: > On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Aaron Goldfein > wrote: > > These elections are failing quorum and will soon have to have their > voting > > periods extended if enough votes are not cast: > > > > CotC(Arnold Bros (est. 1905), Murphy, Wooble),

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Attn: Elections Failing Quorum

2009-05-13 Thread Aaron Goldfein
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Alex Smith wrote: > On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 11:46 -0600, Sean Hunt wrote: > > On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Aaron Goldfein > wrote: > > > These elections are failing quorum and will soon have to have their > voting > > > periods extended if enough votes are not

Re: DIS: Card Proto

2009-05-13 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/5/13 Kerim Aydin : >      The Party of a card class may be one of Government, Opposition, >      or Backbencher. Typo. >      Title: Cabinet Secretary. >      Position:  The Party Secretary may make any ordinary proposal >      democratic by announcement unless there is less than 48 hours lef

Re: DIS: Card Proto

2009-05-13 Thread Quazie
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > A >      play of a backbencher card with a target player in the same >      party as emself, unless the exploit on the card explicitly >      allows this. huh? Any player holding a Government card is a member of Government (in the Gover

Re: DIS: Card Proto

2009-05-13 Thread Quazie
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > I protoed the following July 17 2008, there were many comments > (including from you Quazie ;) ) but I never followed up with an > amended version. > This is an updated proto though? Yes?

DIS: Card Proto

2009-05-13 Thread Kerim Aydin
I protoed the following July 17 2008, there were many comments (including from you Quazie ;) ) but I never followed up with an amended version. Proto-Proposal: the Return of cards. For now, lays out a framework for cards and changes prerogatives to cards, since prerogatives could work better,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Legislative Dominance

2009-05-13 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 13 May 2009, Ed Murphy wrote: > Goethe wrote: > >> On Wed, 13 May 2009, Kerim Aydin wrote: >>> On Wed, 13 May 2009, Quazie wrote: Care to re-proto that? Or send the proto just to me and I'll help you deal (HA pun) with the card rules? >>> If I can find it I will. -G. >> >> By t

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Legislative Dominance

2009-05-13 Thread Ed Murphy
Goethe wrote: > On Wed, 13 May 2009, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> On Wed, 13 May 2009, Quazie wrote: >>> Care to re-proto that? Or send the proto just to me and I'll help you >>> deal (HA pun) with the card rules? >> If I can find it I will. -G. > > By the way, I really, really, really, really don't t

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Legislative Dominance

2009-05-13 Thread Quazie
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 4:18 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > On Wed, 13 May 2009, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> On Wed, 13 May 2009, Quazie wrote: >>> Care to re-proto that?  Or send the proto just to me and I'll help you >>> deal (HA pun) with the card rules? >> >> If I can find it I will.  -G. > > By the way

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Legislative Dominance

2009-05-13 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 13 May 2009, Kerim Aydin wrote: > On Wed, 13 May 2009, Quazie wrote: >> Care to re-proto that? Or send the proto just to me and I'll help you >> deal (HA pun) with the card rules? > > If I can find it I will. -G. By the way, I really, really, really, really don't think that Cards and No

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Legislative Dominance

2009-05-13 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 13 May 2009, Quazie wrote: > Care to re-proto that? Or send the proto just to me and I'll help you > deal (HA pun) with the card rules? If I can find it I will. -G.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Legislative Dominance

2009-05-13 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 13 May 2009, Alex Smith wrote: > Well, the problem is if the proposal's been flipped to undistributable > with 4 support, it could be flipped back with 2 support, which is weird > to say the least. Maybe it should need 6 support to reflip it back, and > likewise the notes should go 1 to fl

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Legislative Dominance

2009-05-13 Thread Quazie
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > On Wed, 13 May 2009, Quazie wrote: >> On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 3:50 PM, Alex Smith wrote: >>> On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 12:45 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote:       A player CAN flip a specified proposal to Distributable       with 2 Support,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Legislative Dominance

2009-05-13 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 13 May 2009, Ed Murphy wrote: > Quazie wrote: > >> If we are bringing back distributability, i'm going to try to bring >> back cards. The issue is that cards need to be a core part of the >> rules or they can't have the power to change things like these >> switches. Is there any way that

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Legislative Dominance

2009-05-13 Thread Alex Smith
On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 13:00 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: > On Wed, 13 May 2009, Alex Smith wrote: > > On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 12:45 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: > >> A player CAN flip a specified proposal to Distributable > >> with 2 Support, or by spending one Note. > >> > >> A player CA

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Legislative Dominance

2009-05-13 Thread Ed Murphy
Quazie wrote: > If we are bringing back distributability, i'm going to try to bring > back cards. The issue is that cards need to be a core part of the > rules or they can't have the power to change things like these > switches. Is there any way that a contest could currently flip a > switch lik

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Legislative Dominance

2009-05-13 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 13 May 2009, Quazie wrote: > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 3:50 PM, Alex Smith wrote: >> On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 12:45 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: >>>       A player CAN flip a specified proposal to Distributable >>>       with 2 Support, or by spending one Note. >>> >>>       A player CAN flip a s

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Legislative Dominance

2009-05-13 Thread Quazie
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 3:50 PM, Alex Smith wrote: > On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 12:45 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: >>       A player CAN flip a specified proposal to Distributable >>       with 2 Support, or by spending one Note. >> >>       A player CAN flip a specified proposal to Undistributable >>    

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Legislative Dominance

2009-05-13 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 13 May 2009, Alex Smith wrote: > On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 12:45 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> A player CAN flip a specified proposal to Distributable >> with 2 Support, or by spending one Note. >> >> A player CAN flip a specified proposal to Undistributable >> with 4 Su

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Legislative Dominance

2009-05-13 Thread Alex Smith
On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 12:45 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: > A player CAN flip a specified proposal to Distributable > with 2 Support, or by spending one Note. > > A player CAN flip a specified proposal to Undistributable > with 4 Support, or by spending two Notes. It sh

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Legislative Dominance

2009-05-13 Thread Ed Murphy
c-walker wrote: > This. Is anyone willing to maintain a Schroedingor's report, even > if unofficially? Weekly, at least; some points of confusion are fast-moving.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2500a assigned to Quazie, Tiger, ais523

2009-05-13 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/5/13 comex : > To read your reply on an iPhone I have to scroll down several screens, and > even a desktop client without quote folding must, I think, page down once or > twice. Nothing against you in particular, but can people be a little more > careful in trimming quotes?  (I'm sure top-post

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2500a assigned to Quazie, Tiger, ais523

2009-05-13 Thread comex
To read your reply on an iPhone I have to scroll down several screens, and even a desktop client without quote folding must, I think, page down once or twice. Nothing against you in particular, but can people be a little more careful in trimming quotes? (I'm sure top-posting sans trim can

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Legislative Dominance

2009-05-13 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/5/13 Charles Walker : > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 8:04 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: >> >> Taral wrote: >> >> > On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 9:51 PM, Kerim Aydin >> > wrote: >> >> Oh bribery proposals are cute.  It's a good test every so often to see >> >> if the current players are a group of voters you wa

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Legislative Dominance

2009-05-13 Thread Charles Walker
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 8:04 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: > Taral wrote: > > > On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 9:51 PM, Kerim Aydin > wrote: > >> Oh bribery proposals are cute. It's a good test every so often to see > >> if the current players are a group of voters you want to be playing a > game > >> with. A

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Legislative Dominance

2009-05-13 Thread Ed Murphy
Taral wrote: > On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 9:51 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> Oh bribery proposals are cute. It's a good test every so often to see >> if the current players are a group of voters you want to be playing a game >> with. And deregistration is good test to use as, whichever the answer, >>

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Yes I did change key

2009-05-13 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 2:54 PM, Alex Smith wrote: > On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 20:48 +0200, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: >> 2009/5/13 Alex Smith : >> > On Tue, 2009-04-28 at 15:35 +0100, Alex Smith wrote (in agora-business): >> >> I flip my Key to G. >> > >> > I CoE against the latest Conductor's Report; my

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Yes I did change key

2009-05-13 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/5/13 Alex Smith : > On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 20:48 +0200, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: >> 2009/5/13 Alex Smith : >> > On Tue, 2009-04-28 at 15:35 +0100, Alex Smith wrote (in agora-business): >> >> I flip my Key to G. >> > >> > I CoE against the latest Conductor's Report; my key is G, not D. My Note >>

DIS: Re: BUS: Yes I did change key

2009-05-13 Thread Alex Smith
On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 20:48 +0200, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: > 2009/5/13 Alex Smith : > > On Tue, 2009-04-28 at 15:35 +0100, Alex Smith wrote (in agora-business): > >> I flip my Key to G. > > > > I CoE against the latest Conductor's Report; my key is G, not D. My Note > > holdings shown are also incor

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Conductor] Lead Sheet

2009-05-13 Thread Alex Smith
On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 20:14 +0200, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: > Player Key Last change > --- > ais523 D Feb 2009 I'm pretty sure I changed Key more recently than this... -- ais523

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Attn: Elections Failing Quorum

2009-05-13 Thread Sean Hunt
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 11:56 AM, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: >> Ah, you're right, I was conufsing this with the Assessor election, >> which is regarding a vacant office and thus needs to be completed; >> whereas the resolution of this election is rel

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Attn: Elections Failing Quorum

2009-05-13 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: > Ah, you're right, I was conufsing this with the Assessor election, > which is regarding a vacant office and thus needs to be completed; > whereas the resolution of this election is relatively immaterial. Accountor; Assessor isn't vacant.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Attn: Elections Failing Quorum

2009-05-13 Thread Sean Hunt
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: >> There are currently at least two or three endorsements of Wooble in >> the Tailor election. I would ask those endorsers to vote conditionally >> if Wooble does not, I would encourage Woo

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Legislative Dominance

2009-05-13 Thread Taral
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 9:51 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > Oh bribery proposals are cute.  It's a good test every so often to see > if the current players are a group of voters you want to be playing a game > with.  And deregistration is good test to use as, whichever the answer, > one doesn't have to

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Attn: Elections Failing Quorum

2009-05-13 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: > There are currently at least two or three endorsements of Wooble in > the Tailor election. I would ask those endorsers to vote conditionally > if Wooble does not, I would encourage Wooble to vote, and I would > encourage the Wielder to rubberstam

DIS: Re: BUS: Attn: Elections Failing Quorum

2009-05-13 Thread Sean Hunt
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Aaron Goldfein wrote: > These elections are failing quorum and will soon have to have their voting > periods extended if enough votes are not cast: > > CotC(Arnold Bros (est. 1905), Murphy, Wooble), fails by one vote. > Anarchist(coppro, Quazie, Tiger), fails by one

Re: DIS: Proto-idea - Bizzarogora

2009-05-13 Thread Sean Hunt
> When agora is "Bizzarogora" every MWoP's prerogative is replaced with > its corresponding anti-prerogative. Why MWoPs only?

Re: DIS: Proto-idea - Bizzarogora

2009-05-13 Thread Alex Smith
On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 09:30 -0400, Quazie wrote: > a) Default Officehater. If the Default Officehater is the > holder of an office, then that office is considered vacant. The > Default Officehater can not perform the duties of any office. Make sure this doesn't interrupt X Months Long Servi

Re: DIS: Proto-idea - Bizzarogora

2009-05-13 Thread Elliott Hird
2009/5/13 Quazie : > Create a rule entitled "Bizzarogora" with the following text: > > On the 13th of each month Agora enters into a state known as > "Bizzarogora" in which many things we knew to be true suddenly > weren't. 29th feb plz

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Legislative Dominance

2009-05-13 Thread Alex Smith
On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 19:07 -0500, Aaron Goldfein wrote: > I see this proposal not as a way for me to be a jackass, but to reveal > a part of the game as flawed. Scamming is something that is very > intricate in the game, and as a result it should be expected that > someone would submit a proposal

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution 6275-6300 & Report

2009-05-13 Thread Ed Murphy
Quazie wrote: > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 9:02 AM, Quazie wrote: >>> 6294 IADoP Must Announce FAILED QUORUM O 1.0 1 Yally > FOR > > [sorry, missed this one on accident] Also, as we clarified on IM, you endorsed me in all open *elections* not decisions. The Assessor DB has been corr

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2480 assigned to Taral

2009-05-13 Thread Alex Smith
On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 15:56 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: > On Tue, 12 May 2009, Alex Smith wrote: > > On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 13:18 -0700, Taral wrote: > >> On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 3:06 AM, Alex Smith wrote: > >>> I appeal the question on culpability. At the time, I was aware of the > >>> Libel rule, b

Re: DIS: Proto-idea - Bizzarogora

2009-05-13 Thread Ed Murphy
Wooble wrote: > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Ed Murphy wrote: >>> c) Wielder of Un-Veto. The Wielder of Un-Veto CAN un-veto an ordinary >>> decision in its voting period by announcement; this decreases >>> its Adoption Index by 1. >> Meaning it will generally fail ev

Re: DIS: Proto-idea - Bizzarogora

2009-05-13 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Ed Murphy wrote: >>       c) Wielder of Un-Veto.  The Wielder of Un-Veto CAN un-veto an ordinary >>          decision in its voting period by announcement; this decreases >>          its Adoption Index by 1. > > Meaning it will generally fail even if adopted, due

Re: DIS: Proto-idea - Bizzarogora

2009-05-13 Thread Ed Murphy
Quazie wrote: > a) Default Officehater. If the Default Officehater is the > holder of an office, then that office is considered vacant. The > Default Officehater can not perform the duties of any office. Meaning anyone can deputise for it by announcement. > b) Justiciarless. If th

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Noted Proposal

2009-05-13 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 11:15 AM, Quazie wrote: > If they should be limited then so should points 7 and 8 which up voting power. Voting limit is already capped at 8 by R, and at 1 for democratic decisions. Raising quorum would make it fairly cheap to kill even an overwhelmingly popular democ

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution 6275-6300 & Report

2009-05-13 Thread Ed Murphy
Quazie wrote: >> 6294 IADoP Must Announce FAILED QUORUM O 1.0 1 Yally >> 6295 Enough already D 2.0 1 comex > PRESENT Please don't do this (throw in a "no vote" comment instead). Due to my quote-collapse add-on for Thunderbird, I almost recorded this

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Noted Proposal

2009-05-13 Thread Quazie
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Roger Hicks wrote: > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 07:13, Quazie wrote: >> I submit the following proposal entitled "Voting 3rds"  AI = 2 >> >> Append the following on to R2126 after the paragaph that begins with "(9)" >> >> (10) A player may spend two notes forming a

DIS: Re: BUS: Noted Proposal

2009-05-13 Thread Roger Hicks
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 07:13, Quazie wrote: > I submit the following proposal entitled "Voting 3rds"  AI = 2 > > Append the following on to R2126 after the paragaph that begins with "(9)" > > (10) A player may spend two notes forming a major third to increase > Quorum on an agoran decision whose

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Nomic Wars III] Report

2009-05-13 Thread Roger Hicks
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 02:45, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: > 2009/5/12 Roger Hicks : >> 15. (Rating=3, Owner=null) A War-rule whose rating is less than 2 may >> not repeal or modify the text, ownership, rating, or number of >> any section. > I thought sections were a remnant from an old version that ha

DIS: Re: BUS: Noted Proposal

2009-05-13 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
Hmm... Isn't just two notes too little? But then again, just having a lower quorum does not help passing a proposal that people are opposed to, so maybe not. 2009/5/13 Quazie : > I submit the following proposal entitled "Voting 3rds"  AI = 2 > > Append the following on to R2126 after the paragaph

DIS: Proto-idea - Bizzarogora

2009-05-13 Thread Quazie
Create a rule entitled "Bizzarogora" with the following text: On the 13th of each month Agora enters into a state known as "Bizzarogora" in which many things we knew to be true suddenly weren't. The following anti-Prerogatives are defined: a) Default Officehater. If the Default Officehat

DIS: Re: BUS: [Nomic Wars III] Report

2009-05-13 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/5/12 Roger Hicks : > 15. (Rating=3, Owner=null) A War-rule whose rating is less than 2 may > not repeal or modify the text, ownership, rating, or number of > any section. I thought sections were a remnant from an old version that had been removed.. -- -Tiger