Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of Proposals 7081-7083

2011-06-24 Thread omd
On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 9:11 PM, Tanner Swett wrote: > On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> Anyway, I thought 'perl-or' wasn't the Boolean logical 'or'.  I thought >> 'perl-or' was "Do X or die" so that 'or' == 'otherwise'. > > If I'm not mistaken, 'or' in Perl evaluates its lef

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of Proposals 7081-7083

2011-06-24 Thread Tanner Swett
On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > Anyway, I thought 'perl-or' wasn't the Boolean logical 'or'.  I thought > 'perl-or' was "Do X or die" so that 'or' == 'otherwise'. If I'm not mistaken, 'or' in Perl evaluates its left argument and returns that, unless it is false, in which cas

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of Proposals 7081-7083

2011-06-24 Thread Eric Stucky
> Further, I don't believe "or" is ruleset-defined, so it should have the > common language meaning, which is exclusive, but I think there is history to > suggest that ENDORSE or AGAINST means what Tanner intended. (I could be > completely wrong about this) Post-research remarks: This is wrong/i

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of Proposals 7081-7083

2011-06-24 Thread Eric Stucky
> Turiski, > > Your email seems to be the one with funky wrapping; Gondilier's second > message looks fine to me. I'm not entirely sure how my wrapping works. I fiddled with some settings; is it better now? > (Specifying a Boolean logical OR in the original message would have > guaranteed failu

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of Proposals 7081-7083

2011-06-24 Thread Elliott Hird
On 24 June 2011 20:59, Kerim Aydin wrote: > Anyway, I thought 'perl-or' wasn't the Boolean logical 'or'.  I thought > 'perl-or' was "Do X or die" so that 'or' == 'otherwise'. The semantics of (a or b) and (a || b) are identical in Perl. (I think.)

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of Proposals 7081-7083

2011-06-24 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 24 Jun 2011, Eric Stucky wrote: > > The question is, if Murphy doesn't vote, whether the PRESENT stops us > > from getting to AGAINST (strict perl-or logic interpretation), or whether > > the AGAINST somehow overrides the PRESENT (common usage/more common sense > > interpretation and pro

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Register

2011-06-24 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 24 Jun 2011, Eric Stucky wrote: > And it probably doesn't require a CFJ, but… if you look at historical > attempts to register, they tend to be intentionally obfuscated and then CFJed. For certain painful values of recent history.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of Proposals 7081-7083

2011-06-24 Thread Eric Stucky
> The question is, if Murphy doesn't vote, whether the PRESENT stops us > from getting to AGAINST (strict perl-or logic interpretation), or whether > the AGAINST somehow overrides the PRESENT (common usage/more common sense > interpretation and probably the intent). > > -G. That's a rather unfor

DIS: Re: BUS: Register

2011-06-24 Thread Eric Stucky
Gondolier, please send your mail in plaintext. If you do not know how, tell us what client you're using and I'm sure someone can help you. And it probably doesn't require a CFJ, but… if you look at historical attempts to register, they tend to be intentionally obfuscated and then CFJed. So, we'r

DIS: Re: BUS: New lurker, and odd markup

2011-06-24 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 9:10 AM, Arkady English wrote: > Dear Agorans: > I'd like to say "Hi!" and announce my intent to lurk/spy on the game for a > bit, until I get a feel for what it's like here, at which point I will > consider joining as a player. > While I do: can anyone help with this: I'm

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 3037 assigned to Walker

2011-06-24 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 23 Jun 2011, Charles Walker wrote: > Amend Rule 869 (How to Join and Leave Agora) by replacing > > A first-class person CAN (unless explicitly forbidden or > prevented by the rules) register by publishing a message that > indicates reasonably clearly and reasonably una

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 3037 assigned to Walker

2011-06-24 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 23 Jun 2011, Eric Stucky wrote: > >> A first-class person CAN register by sending a public message. > > No more CFJs by non-players? > > From that wording, it would still be possible. They CAN register, but they do > not necessarily do so. Obviously the wording is unclear if at l