Re: DIS: XX registration

2013-06-20 Thread Aaron Goldfein
On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 9:24 PM, Michael Norrish wrote: > I register for the Agora XX game. > > Michael > Now I feel like there was no reason to modify Rule 104.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: May as well try to settle this, I think

2013-06-20 Thread Alex Smith
On Fri, 2013-06-21 at 15:24 +1000, Michael Norrish wrote: > Very cool. I'm glad that's being used. I don't know how long it took me, > but I > certainly shifted well away from being a Platonist as the game progressed. > Clearly I was young and naïve initially. The current system is pretty frien

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: May as well try to settle this, I think

2013-06-20 Thread Michael Norrish
On 21/06/13 14:38, Sean Hunt wrote: > On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 12:34 AM, Michael Norrish > wrote: >> This attitude was certainly one I held when we began the game. I later >> proposed >> a “document-centric” view of things, whereby the state was defined to be >> whatever the contents of the docum

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: May as well try to settle this, I think

2013-06-20 Thread Sean Hunt
On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 12:34 AM, Michael Norrish wrote: > This attitude was certainly one I held when we began the game. I later > proposed > a “document-centric” view of things, whereby the state was defined to be > whatever the contents of the document said it was, but with some (unspecified)

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: May as well try to settle this, I think

2013-06-20 Thread Michael Norrish
On 15/06/13 02:46, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> the *other* fundamental CFJ waiting to be assigned, the one about >> whether the gamestate stores a mutable record of history or not. > This is another thing I keep thinking of the history of; what's the > history of seeing the "gamestate" as some sort of

Re: DIS: XX registration

2013-06-20 Thread Sean Hunt
On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 12:24 AM, Michael Norrish wrote: > I register for the Agora XX game. > > Michael > All the cool kids are doing it these days. I register as well. -scshunt

DIS: XX registration

2013-06-20 Thread Michael Norrish
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Re: DIS: Another Birthday Thing

2013-06-20 Thread Aaron Goldfein
On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 7:30 PM, Aaron Goldfein wrote: > On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 7:27 PM, Aaron Goldfein > wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 6:21 AM, Charles Walker >> wrote: >>> >>> I propose a ##nomic session, with discussion of Agora's history and other >>> chat. We can invite any an

Re: DIS: Another Birthday Thing

2013-06-20 Thread Aaron Goldfein
On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 7:27 PM, Aaron Goldfein wrote: > > > On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 6:21 AM, Charles Walker < > charles.w.wal...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I propose a ##nomic session, with discussion of Agora's history and other >> chat. We can invite any ancients who reply to Yally's email. >> >> W

Re: DIS: Another Birthday Thing

2013-06-20 Thread Aaron Goldfein
On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 6:21 AM, Charles Walker wrote: > I propose a ##nomic session, with discussion of Agora's history and other > chat. We can invite any ancients who reply to Yally's email. > > Would 22:00, UK time on the 29th be ok for most people? (We might want to > look into organising a f

DIS: Agora XX: Proposal 305 passes

2013-06-20 Thread Fool
Voting is closed on this. It passes 2:1 (Chuck,Yally vs Walker). This enacts rule 305. Chuck +10 and Walker +2 by rule 302. Full report in about 10 hours. Voting on 306-309 is still open. Vote early, vote often! -Dan 305 (Chuck): I propose that the following rule be created: No rule may

DIS: Agora XX: proposals 308 and 309

2013-06-20 Thread Fool
Voting on 305 closes in about an hour. 306 and 307 close in about 11 hours. Here I'm just numbering and repeating the two new proposals. As always you can vote by just replying to this message, privately if you like. Voting on these closes in 24h. -Dan 308 (Chuck): I propose that Rule 110

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 3337 judged FALSE by G.

2013-06-20 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 19 Jun 2013, omd wrote: > On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > What's really missing? It seems pretty evident to me that a power-3.1 > > rule that says, "after this ratifies, we treat everything going forward > > as if this history was true" is pretty straightforward

Re: DIS: Winning vs. stopping others from winning

2013-06-20 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 20 Jun 2013, omd wrote: > I consider wins by paradox to fall into this category, but since they > tend to come out of nowhere and be unstoppable (typically the > undefined behavior is achieved and CFJed on in a single message), > there is no real way to stop them. Little tid-bit: That

Re: DIS: Winning vs. stopping others from winning

2013-06-20 Thread omd
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 6:23 PM, Fool wrote: > Now, usually to win it is necessary to stop others from winning. Around here > the two things are often unrelated. Win by paradox seems like a perfect > example, it looks like it basically does nothing, so this doesn't affect > anyone else's chances o

DIS: XX Proposal

2013-06-20 Thread Charles Walker
I propose that Rule 206 be amended to read: "Initially, each Voter has exactly one vote on each proposal. During the voting period on a proposal, a player with more than 50 points may cast an additional vote on that proposal by making a statement to that effect on the mailing list; this destroys 5

DIS: Another Birthday Thing

2013-06-20 Thread Charles Walker
I propose a ##nomic session, with discussion of Agora's history and other chat. We can invite any ancients who reply to Yally's email. Would 22:00, UK time on the 29th be ok for most people? (We might want to look into organising a few of these if not). -- Walker

DIS: Agora XX: Proposal

2013-06-20 Thread Chuck Carroll
I propose that Rule 110 be transmuted to mutable. omd, I will vote for the transmutation of 112 if you will vote for the transmutation of 110. Chuck -Original Message- From: agora-discussion [mailto:agora-discussion-boun...@agoranomic.org] On Behalf Of omd Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 201

RE: DIS: Agora XX: Proposal 305

2013-06-20 Thread Chuck Carroll
omd made two proposals in a message sent at 10:00 p.m. EDT on June 19. Chuck From: agora-discussion [mailto:agora-discussion-boun...@agoranomic.org] On Behalf Of Aaron Goldfein Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 12:58 AM To: Fool; Agora Nomic discussions (DF) Subject: Re: DIS: Agora XX: Proposal

DIS: Agora XX: 4th report

2013-06-20 Thread Fool
Good day Agorans, Since last report, proposals 301, 302, and 304 were adopted, while 303 failed. The overall change to the ruleset is just that 211 is amended, now 302. The current ruleset is included at the end of this message. There are three new proposals. Voting on 305 closes in about

DIS: Agora XX: Proposals 306-307

2013-06-20 Thread Fool
I'll send a report out shortly. Here I'm numbering and repeating the two new proposals. As always you can vote by just replying to this message, privately if you like. Voting on these closes in 24h. -Dan 306 (omd): I propose that a rule be enacted as follows: A player may transfer points

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 3337 judged FALSE by G.

2013-06-20 Thread Alex Smith
On Wed, 2013-06-19 at 20:37 -0700, omd wrote: > On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 8:29 PM, Sean Hunt > wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 4:38 PM, Alex Smith wrote: > >> Time to do a total copout, I guess, given that I'm not paying enough > >> attention to sort this out by myself: > >> > >> For each colou