Re: DIS: Proto: Players' Guide

2013-08-07 Thread woggle
On 8/6/13 14:14 , Charles Walker wrote: > I'd really appreciate some feedback on the following, in particular > whether the ###-delimited section should be removed or not, but also > generally. > > --- A PLAYERS' GUIDE TO THE GAME OF AGORA --- [snip] > Just about everything you can do in the game

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Possibly Registrar] Census

2013-08-07 Thread Charles Walker
On 7 Aug 2013, at 01:26, Alex Smith wrote: > On Tue, 2013-08-06 at 20:24 -0400, Max Schutz wrote: >> wait we have to re-register again > > Probably not. Wooble thinks we do, but I'm not sure if anyone else > agrees with em. > > One common problem with nomic is that people disagree as to what th

DIS: Re: BUS: Judgement: CFJ 3383

2013-08-07 Thread Sean Hunt
On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 3:26 AM, James Beirne wrote: > CFJ: Fool violated Rule 101 by failing to treat Agora right good forever, by > purporting to deregister all other players and subsequently lock them out of > the game. > > Judgement: GUILTY/EXILE > > I assign the maximum remaining sentence of T

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Judgement: CFJ 3383

2013-08-07 Thread Charles Walker
On 7 August 2013 10:20, Sean Hunt wrote: > On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 3:26 AM, James Beirne wrote: >> CFJ: Fool violated Rule 101 by failing to treat Agora right good forever, by >> purporting to deregister all other players and subsequently lock them out of >> the game. >> >> Judgement: GUILTY/EXILE

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Judgement: CFJ 3383

2013-08-07 Thread Sean Hunt
On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 6:14 AM, Charles Walker wrote: > I suggest the judge file a motion to reconsider (Rule 2318) and assign > the correct judgement, as any ambiguity here is not a good idea. I think two mutually-contradictory actions should be enough to consider it simply ambiguous in the firs

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Judgement: CFJ 3383

2013-08-07 Thread Charles Walker
On 7 August 2013 11:15, Sean Hunt wrote: > On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 6:14 AM, Charles Walker > wrote: >> I suggest the judge file a motion to reconsider (Rule 2318) and assign >> the correct judgement, as any ambiguity here is not a good idea. > > I think two mutually-contradictory actions should be

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Judgement: CFJ 3383

2013-08-07 Thread Alex Smith
On Wed, 2013-08-07 at 06:15 -0400, Sean Hunt wrote: > On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 6:14 AM, Charles Walker > wrote: > > I suggest the judge file a motion to reconsider (Rule 2318) and assign > > the correct judgement, as any ambiguity here is not a good idea. > > I think two mutually-contradictory acti

Re: DIS: Proto: Players' Guide

2013-08-07 Thread Charles Walker
On 7 August 2013 05:27, omd wrote: > On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 5:14 PM, Charles Walker > wrote: >> To subscribe to the mailing lists, go to http://agoranomic.org/ which >> has links to all five lists. > > I would really like to decrease the burden of this, incidentally. Would it be possible to allo

DIS: A Players' Guide to the Game of Agora, version 2

2013-08-07 Thread Charles Walker
Here's the second draft, with everyone's corrections and suggestions included. ais523 mentioned in irc that e got a degree for an "FAQ-like document". Is this up to standard? --- A PLAYERS' GUIDE TO THE GAME OF AGORA --- Table of Contents - I.What is nomic? II. What is Agora

DIS: Re: OFF: Judgement, CFJ 3381

2013-08-07 Thread Craig Daniel
::applause:: On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 4:36 AM, Alex Smith wrote: > > - Teucer's counterscam failed to allow em to repeal rules > (no opinion on whether it's a paradox) I note that, while you profess no opinion, you pointed out the way in which it very probably fails to create a paradox - I stepp

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Corrected Distribution of Proposals 7548-7586

2013-08-07 Thread Charles Walker
On 7 August 2013 14:21, Benjamin Schultz wrote: > On Props. 7548-7586, I vote ENDORSE Murphy. It seems unlikely that Murphy will vote.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Corrected Distribution of Proposals 7548-7586

2013-08-07 Thread Benjamin Schultz
On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 9:27 AM, Charles Walker wrote: > On 7 August 2013 14:21, Benjamin Schultz > wrote: > > On Props. 7548-7586, I vote ENDORSE Murphy. > > It seems unlikely that Murphy will vote. > Did e go inactive or AFK? Would you like to convince me to endorse someone else? -- OscarMeyr

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Corrected Distribution of Proposals 7548-7586

2013-08-07 Thread Charles Walker
On 7 August 2013 15:13, Benjamin Schultz wrote: > On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 9:27 AM, Charles Walker > wrote: >> >> On 7 August 2013 14:21, Benjamin Schultz >> wrote: >> > On Props. 7548-7586, I vote ENDORSE Murphy. >> >> It seems unlikely that Murphy will vote. > > Did e go inactive or AFK? > > Wou

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Corrected Distribution of Proposals 7548-7586

2013-08-07 Thread Benjamin Schultz
On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 10:28 AM, Charles Walker wrote: > On 7 August 2013 15:13, Benjamin Schultz > wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 9:27 AM, Charles Walker < > charles.w.wal...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > >> > >> On 7 August 2013 14:21, Benjamin Schultz > >> wrote: > >> > On Props. 7548-7586, I vo

DIS: Re: OFF: [IADoP] Government Waste and Herald elections

2013-08-07 Thread Sean Hunt
On Aug 7, 2013 9:29 AM, "Charles Walker" wrote: > > I hereby resolve the election for the office of Government Waste. The > votes were as follows: > > woggle - Machiavelli, woggle, Walker, G. > ais523 - ais523, Roujo > ehird - ehird > Ienpw III - Ienpw III > > woggle is the option selected by Agor

DIS: Re: OFF: Judgement, CFJ 3381

2013-08-07 Thread omd
On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 4:36 AM, Alex Smith wrote: > (The recent TIME OUT scam, which made players > inactive, likewise doesn't actually work on vote resolution, for this > reason; however, it would have worked on proposal /distribution/, back > before the loophole was patched.) The recent TIME OU

DIS: Re: BUS: (corrected) Judgement: CFJ 3383

2013-08-07 Thread Tanner Swett
Oh, and further arguments: I think that the "please treat Agora right good forever" clause is vague enough that it should not be punishable in cases of negligence, but only in cases of actual malice. —Machiavelli

DIS: Re: OFF: Judgement, CFJ 3381

2013-08-07 Thread Michael Slone
On 2013-08-07, Alex Smith wrote: > I judge CFJ 3381 TRUE. > > The rest of this message, below this paragraph, is a thesis. I submit it > with intent to qualify for a degree. It is /also/ my judge's arguments > and evidence. [snip] This is an excellent Judgement and an excellent Thesis. Thanks f

DIS: Re: BUS: (corrected) Judgement: CFJ 3383

2013-08-07 Thread James Beirne
For the record, I support an appeal. On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 6:14 PM, Charles Walker wrote: > On 7 August 2013 20:18, omd wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 6:28 AM, James Beirne > wrote: > >> Judgement: GUILTY/TIME OUT (21 days) > > > > I intend to appeal this judgement with two support, as I d

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Flair

2013-08-07 Thread Elliott Hird
On 7 August 2013 22:57, omd wrote: > (The precise definition of "text" is generally left to the > Registrar's discretion, but should be conservative; no emoji.) Please just allow Unicode strings -- or better, stay silent on the matter. Defining "text" is a fool's errand, and explicitl

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Flair

2013-08-07 Thread comex
On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 6:25 PM, Elliott Hird wrote: > On 7 August 2013 22:57, omd wrote: >> (The precise definition of "text" is generally left to the >> Registrar's discretion, but should be conservative; no emoji.) > > Please just allow Unicode strings -- or better, stay silent on t

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Flair

2013-08-07 Thread Elliott Hird
On 8 August 2013 00:29, comex wrote: > The quoted paragraph is intended to be explicitly mostly silent on the > matter, only using emoji as an example. Em⭕️ji is annoying, but so is > z̸̨̜͈̦̹̜͕̥͈̱̟̙̰͍͈̻̠̩̝͈͝a̵̱̳̣̗̳̣͍̭̣̝̲̠͚̤̞͢͠ͅl̨̨̢̙̫̣̖̭̖͍̦̞̠̹͞g̢̛̻͇̜̙̟̗̲͇̬̫͘̕o͔͇̺͎͍̞̦͖̥͔̝̕͢͟ͅ, > fullwidth, ├box dra

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Flair

2013-08-07 Thread omd
On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 8:11 PM, Elliott Hird wrote: > I don't see why we should care about this in flair but nowhere else. > It seems completely irrelevant to me. Well... we have CFJs and proposals, which naturally go out of circulation after a limited amount of time, and names, which aren't actu

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (corrected) Judgement: CFJ 3383

2013-08-07 Thread Craig Daniel
On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 4:06 PM, Tanner Swett wrote: > Oh, and further arguments: I think that the "please treat Agora right good > forever" clause is vague enough that it should not be punishable in cases of > negligence, but only in cases of actual malice. > > —Machiavelli I opine that a small

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (corrected) Judgement: CFJ 3383

2013-08-07 Thread James Beirne
Yeah, I struggled a lot with this. I decided 21 in the end after comparing other sentences of TIME OUT. 7-14 days seems typical for repeated neglect of duties and this seemed a bit more extreme to me. On 2013-08-07 9:57 PM, "Craig Daniel" wrote: > On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 4:06 PM, Tanner Swett wro

DIS: Re: OFF: [Herald] Long Overdue Resolution

2013-08-07 Thread omd
On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 2:11 AM, Sean Hunt wrote: > I hereby resolve the Agoran Decision to select a degree to award for > ais523's thesis "A History of Agoran Wins, 2009-Present" Of note, this decision was initiated about three years ago.