DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ

2018-07-23 Thread Kerim Aydin
Ok found it --- Discussion is here: https://www.mail-archive.com/agora-discussion@agoranomic.org/msg44022.html On Tue, 24 Jul 2018, Rebecca wrote: > I call a CFJ with the statement: Quorum on the Agoran Decisions on > whether or not to adopt Proposals 8066-8076 > was 5.0. > > There were two CF

DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ

2018-07-23 Thread Kerim Aydin
Sorry this is from memory I'm not in a place to go digging but IIRC: PSS (I think PSS?) delivered a judgement that would have invalidated one of the votes. The logic of that judgement didn't apply (for some reason I forget) to the other questionable votes (I think it was kind of odd logic but do

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Humiliating Public Reminder

2018-07-23 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 24 Jul 2018, Rebecca wrote: > Dude it's 5.0. Uncontested CFJs ruled that those votes didn't count. > > Anyway if I must I vote PRESENT on each agoran decision. > > On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 12:50 AM, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote: > > Quorum on the Agoran Decisions on whether or not to adop

DIS: Draft: Point Installation Act

2018-07-23 Thread Aris Merchant
Title: Point Installation Act Adoption index: 3.0 Author: Aris Co-authors: G., twg Create the following Rule, Points, AI-2.0: Points are the official currency of Agora. Points can only be owned by players and Agora. Points are tracked by the Treasuror. For each player, create a number

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Humiliating Public Reminder

2018-07-23 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
Well, then it just won't be ratified. Deal with the uncertainty! Publius Scribonius Scholasticus On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 6:50 PM Rebecca wrote: > > same, it's 5. > > On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 8:39 AM, Cuddle Beam wrote: > > I object. I'd be fine with the lower value though. > > > > > > On Mon

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Humiliating Public Reminder

2018-07-23 Thread Rebecca
same, it's 5. On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 8:39 AM, Cuddle Beam wrote: > I object. I'd be fine with the lower value though. > > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 6:23 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus < > p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I hereby intend to ratify the following document, with

DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Humiliating Public Reminder

2018-07-23 Thread Reuben Staley
Actually, I did vote. I can see why you missed it, though, because I hit send before changing the recipient to a-b, therefore sending it to a-o. A bit unconventional, but it is still a public forum. Therefore, my votes should be counted. here's the message: https://www.mail-archive.com/agora-

DIS: Re: BUS: Some boring proposals

2018-07-23 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
Yeah, I agree it's probably not actually necessary, but I figure more precision can't be a bad thing, and in the unlikely event that it _does_ actually close a loophole, we'll be glad of it. Good to know you're taking care of the Points Installation Act, I'll look forward to it. :) And congratu

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Humiliating Public Reminder

2018-07-23 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
You continuing out the quorum uncertainty is going to create decision uncertainty because we will be unsure of whose votes counted. At some point, we need to just ratify it and make up our minds. I hereby intend to ratify the following document, without objection: { The quorum on each of the d

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Humiliating Public Reminder

2018-07-23 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
Well, the solution for that is for enough people to vote (in the next decision with uncertain quorum) to beat the maximum possible value of quorum. I think decision uncertainty is far more undesirable than quorum uncertainty. We're just about coping with having two possible quora for each decisi

DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Humiliating Public Reminder

2018-07-23 Thread Kerim Aydin
You can fix decision uncertainty, but this unavoidably perpetuates the quorum uncertainty. Any votes now are valid if and only if the voting period has been extended, so their validity for determining quorum in the next batch will be uncertain... (Personally I'm abstaining on purpose so I'm de

DIS: Re: BUS: Some boring proposals

2018-07-23 Thread Aris Merchant
Thanks for the offer! I've written it. I just need to look it over, and I'll probably publish a draft sometime tomorow (UTC-7:00). After that, I'll leave a few days for public comment, and then distribute later this week. Good idea on providing a flat adjustment version of "From each according to e