Re: DIS: Proto: Sets

2020-05-20 Thread Alex Smith via agora-discussion
On Thursday, 14 May 2020, 14:48:20 GMT, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > On 5/14/2020 12:14 AM, Reuben Staley via agora-discussion wrote: > > On 5/14/20 1:06 AM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > >> > >> On 5/14/2020 12:00 AM, Reuben Staley wrote: > >>> On 5/13/20 5:54 PM, nch

Re: DIS: coherent vision for Agora Nomic as an independent policing/judiciary force

2020-05-20 Thread Alex Smith via agora-discussion
On Thursday, 14 May 2020, 19:28:38 GMT, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: > On Mon, 11 May 2020 at 20:07, David Nicol via agora-discussion > wrote: > > (1) judiciary thing: craft some immutables that allow contracts to specify > > Agora Nomic Arbitration Services as their venue of dispute

DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] No More 'By Announcement'

2020-05-20 Thread Alex Smith via agora-discussion
On Tuesday, 19 May 2020, 16:55:10 GMT, nch via agora-business wrote: > By my math this eliminates 108 words from the rules, and more importantly > makes announcement default so it doesn't need to be included in new rules (and > therefore can't accidentally be left out). I think this needs some c

Re: DIS: Proto: Sets v0.9

2020-05-20 Thread Alex Smith via agora-discussion
On Wednesday, 20 May 2020, 13:47:34 GMT, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > On 5/20/20 2:10 AM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: >> Amend rule 2350 "Proposals" by replacing: >> >> Creating a proposal adds it to the Proposal Pool. >> >> with: >> >> A player CAN add a proposal to the Proposal

Re: DIS: Auction overhaul first cut

2020-05-23 Thread Alex Smith via agora-discussion
On Friday, 22 May 2020, 22:00:23 GMT, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion wrote: > I wasn't proposing building it into the auction rules. I was saying > that we should create a type of asset that is tied to a switch. Idea with possibly too many interesting implications: allow A

DIS: Re: BUS: Sets v1.3.1

2020-05-25 Thread Alex Smith via agora-discussion
On Tuesday, 26 May 2020, 02:14:30 GMT+1, nch via agora-business wrote: > Creating a proposal adds it to the Proposal Pool. Once a proposal > is created, neither its text nor any of the aforementioned > attributes can be changed except as described in the rules. The ban on changing the text of a

DIS: Re: BUS: Sets v1.3.1

2020-05-25 Thread Alex Smith via agora-discussion
On Tuesday, 26 May 2020, 02:14:30 GMT+1, nch via agora-business wrote: > The Promotor CAN distribute a pending proposal which is in the > Proposal Pool at any time. For safety, I would prefer "The Promotor CAN distribute a proposal which is in the Proposal Pool at any time, but SHALL NOT do so

Re: DIS: Back-Awarding of Silver Quills

2020-05-28 Thread Alex Smith via agora-discussion
> On Thursday, 28 May 2020, 17:03:57 GMT+1, James Cook via agora-discussion > wrote: > > In fact, it may be a good idea to have two separate tiers of crimes anyway: > > small infractions that earn you some blots, and serious ones that come with > > a > > punishment you can't pay off. I think t

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3837 Assigned to grok

2020-05-31 Thread Alex Smith via agora-discussion
On Sunday, 31 May 2020, 20:29:09 GMT+1, grok via agora-business wrote: > On Sun, May 31, 2020, 2:08 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-official > wrote: > > === CFJ 3837 === > > > > Falsifian owns at least one blot if and only if English Wikipedia

Re: DIS: Question About Lime Ribbons

2020-06-03 Thread Alex Smith via agora-discussion
On Wednesday, 3 June 2020, 11:44:08 GMT+1, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion wrote: > For the purposes of lime ribbons, does being an author count as being > a co-author? Lime Ribbons were intended for being someone who improved other people's proposals, rather than writing

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposals] Aris Reshapes the Legislative Process

2020-06-04 Thread Alex Smith via agora-discussion
On Thursday, 4 June 2020, 16:06:12 GMT+1, nch wrote: > I've noticed this dichotomy too. I was originally planning to award a victory > card to the person with highest honor every week but I got the impression some > people would be against gamifying honor so I backed down on it. Honour only reall

Re: DIS: [Protos] Rule Violation Options

2020-06-05 Thread Alex Smith via agora-discussion
On Friday, 5 June 2020, 03:41:58 GMT+1, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > What do y'all think of these? If there's a strong consensus for one or > the other, I'll only submit that one. > Players SHOULD NOT violate the rules. This should be a lowercase "should". It's the ordinary-lang

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] DADA Soft Repeal

2020-06-05 Thread Alex Smith via agora-discussion
On Friday, 5 June 2020, 19:11:36 GMT+1, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: > If a proposal does get enough votes, I think this makes the Assessor > the one who violates the rule, when e resolves it. I guess Aris's "New > Defenses" would protect em. Probably not a big deal. Gratuitous: in th

DIS: Re: BUS: [Thesis] On the Continuity of the Agoran Judicial System

2020-06-06 Thread Alex Smith via agora-discussion
On Saturday, 6 June 2020, 16:44:10 GMT+1, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote: > CFJ 7 had been called on August 5, 1993, > just over a month before Agora began, This statement seems implausible. I suggest correcting it for the final version of the thesis. -- ais523

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Credible Loan Offer

2020-06-06 Thread Alex Smith via agora-discussion
On Saturday, 6 June 2020, 20:20:36 GMT+1, Reuben Staley via agora-discussion wrote: > Darn it. I guess straight2spam.com has failed me. I received the original email just fine, which implies that this email client is even more broken than I thought. Attaching the EICAR test file would have be

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8409-8430

2020-06-07 Thread Alex Smith via agora-discussion
On Sunday, 7 June 2020, 09:07:13 GMT+1, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > I don't expect everyone to vote for my proposals just because my personal > life is a mess right now. However, I would appreciate not being accused of > coming up with cosmetic proposals just to get rich. I reali

Re: DIS: [Attn: Herald] Birthday Tournament Discussion

2020-06-07 Thread Alex Smith via agora-discussion
On Sunday, 7 June 2020, 22:38:30 GMT+1, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: > > Oh those are really pretty simple too, chess-level simple or simpler (with > > some edge cases that come up as you go). > > My experience learning Diplomacy was that the although rules are short > and seem simple

Re: DIS: [Proto] Equation (equity cases)

2020-06-07 Thread Alex Smith via agora-discussion
On Monday, 8 June 2020, 04:43:19 GMT+1, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > * EQUATE {X}, where X is a body of text, appropriate if the situation > is inequitable and X includes changes that would make the situation more > equitable, and only such changes. After the judgement has been >

DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Barrel rolling

2020-06-09 Thread Alex Smith via agora-discussion
I submit the following proposal, "Barrel Rolling", AI-1: > A player CAN win the game, but it will cost em 100 barrels. This is unusual wording for this, and it looks a lot like it would permit a player to win the game without having 100 barrels. Is there any reason this isn't just "A player CAN

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Barrel rolling

2020-06-09 Thread Alex Smith via agora-discussion
On Tuesday, 9 June 2020, 20:16:09 GMT+1, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > On 6/9/2020 11:21 AM, Alex Smith via agora-discussion wrote: > > I submit the following proposal, "Barrel Rolling", AI-1: > >> A player CAN win the game, but it will cost em 100

Re: DIS: [proto-contract] Arbitration

2020-06-09 Thread Alex Smith via agora-discussion
On Wednesday, 10 June 2020, 02:04:58 GMT+1, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > What follows is a proto-contract to provide independent dispute > resolution for alleged contract violations. Like arbitration often is in > the real world, this can be unfair and biased, and it lacks an appeals

DIS: Re: BUS: on to World 1-4

2020-06-10 Thread Alex Smith via agora-discussion
On Wednesday, 10 June 2020, 17:52:30 GMT+1, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote: > I award myself an Indigo ribbon. > > I raise a banner! > > (Super Mario music plays) First Renaissance win in years. Come to think of it, possibly the first win in years that was neither a scam, nor an exploi

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Victory auctions

2020-06-10 Thread Alex Smith via agora-discussion
On Wednesday, 10 June 2020, 20:07:05 GMT+1, nch via agora-discussion wrote: > I actually meant that out of mild frustration. Sets hasn't started and > we're about to pass a gameplay tweak meant to 'fix' something that's > supposedly wrong with it, and it's frustrating to see that the first > thi

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: on to World 1-4

2020-06-10 Thread Alex Smith via agora-discussion
On Wednesday, 10 June 2020, 20:35:09 GMT+1, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion wrote: > On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 3:30 PM Alex Smith via agora-discussion > wrote: > > On Wednesday, 10 June 2020, 17:52:30 GMT+1, Kerim Aydin via agora-business > > wrote: &g

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Finger Pointing At Cuddlebeam

2020-06-10 Thread Alex Smith via agora-discussion
On Wednesday, 10 June 2020, 22:42:06 GMT+1, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion wrote: > On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 9:46 PM Rebecca via agora-business > wrote: > > > > I point my finger at Cuddlebeam > > > > Literally everything in eir most recent contract constitutes Faking, > >

DIS: Re: BUS: [Finger Pointing] Pineapples aren't people

2020-06-11 Thread Alex Smith via agora-discussion
On Thursday, 11 June 2020, 23:32:12 GMT+1, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote: > Gratuitous: > > The Pineapple Partnership was judged to be a person at the time the case > was assigned, and the Rules of the time made em a person [cites later]. > So it was a legal judgement of the time (which

DIS: Re: BUS: [CFJs] on weird switch phrasing

2020-06-11 Thread Alex Smith via agora-discussion
On Friday, 12 June 2020, 03:48:06 GMT+1, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote: > On 6/11/2020 7:08 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: > > If the previous CFJ that I called was found TRUE, then that provides > > evidence for the statement of this CFJ being TRUE: at some point, CFJ > > 3835

Re: DIS: [Proto-proposal] Amulets

2020-06-12 Thread Alex Smith via agora-discussion
On Friday, 12 June 2020, 08:51:06 GMT+1, Cuddle Beam via agora-discussion wrote: > I am EXTREMELY wary of extra vote mechanisms but I've never seen > large-scale pooling on Agora like on Blognomic so perhaps it's not a > problem. Maybe. Pools of 3 have historically been fairly common, and of 4

Re: DIS: timestamps

2020-06-13 Thread Alex Smith via agora-discussion
On Saturday, 13 June 2020, 19:06:17 GMT+1, ATMunn via agora-discussion wrote: > hi, future notary here > > in the upcoming Notary reports, would it be useful to have exact > timestamps (instead of just dates) for contract history? because of all > the craziness with contracts that you guys have

Re: DIS: [Webmastor] Informal Polling

2020-06-13 Thread Alex Smith via agora-discussion
On Sunday, 14 June 2020, 04:43:56 GMT+1, lucidiot via agora-discussion wrote: > > * How do you access Agora? [your email's web client, a desktop client, > > phone client] > > I am currently replying using Protonmail's webmail, because I am having > issues with my normal desktop client, Evoluti

Re: DIS: [Webmastor] Informal Polling

2020-06-14 Thread Alex Smith via agora-discussion
On Sunday, 14 June 2020, 11:15:58 GMT+1, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion wrote: > On 6/14/20 6:11 AM, Cuddle Beam via agora-discussion wrote: > > Links to all thesis, we have so many lost ones > > We have many of the theses in GitHub. If you know of any others > available o

Re: DIS: [Webmastor] Tiny Homepage Updates

2020-06-14 Thread Alex Smith via agora-discussion
On Sunday, 14 June 2020, 13:26:34 GMT+1, nch via agora-discussion wrote: > I did some updates to the homepage, keeping it mostly the same as it > was. I bolded most (missed a couple that will be fixed next time I > update it) of the numbers and dates we should be updating regularly both > to cat

DIS: Re: BUS: re-tailor

2020-06-17 Thread Alex Smith via agora-discussion
On Thursday, 18 June 2020, 01:08:09 GMT+1, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote: > I award myself the following ribbons: [snip] > - Platinum (Speaker) > - Ultraviolet (Champion) These two work, but it feels like a bug that you should be able to get Ribbons off a Ribbon victory. Maybe the lockou

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Black ribbon patch

2020-06-19 Thread Alex Smith via agora-discussion
On Friday, 19 June 2020, 16:24:06 GMT+1, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote: > Not part of arguments: lol when I voted against this it was because it > lacked the basic checks (e.g. dependent action or something). Regardless > of CFJ outcome you all have now fixed the price of pending at 4 blo

Re: DIS: Regardless of the Scam Result

2020-06-23 Thread Alex Smith via agora-discussion
On Tuesday, 23 June 2020, 16:08:36 GMT+1, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > ok. I'll go ahead and plan for a week for something that's so uncertain > that I might as well just wait it out. no, not gonna. That's my personal > attitude and like it or not, somewhere in Economics 101 is the

DIS: Re: BUS: Definitely not an apathy intent

2020-06-24 Thread Alex Smith via agora-discussion
On Wednesday, 24 June 2020, 03:28:07 GMT+1, random-internet-cat via agora-business wrote: > I, the player known as Jason that regularly sends email from > jason.e.c...@gmail.com, intend, without objection, to declare apathy. > I have sent messages from this email before - I believe it was to se

DIS: Apathy warning (was: BUS: [Proposal] Fuses)

2020-06-24 Thread Alex Smith via agora-discussion
On Wednesday, 24 June 2020, 04:16:48 GMT+1, random-internet-cat via agora-business wrote: > I, the player known as Jason that regularly sends email > fromjason.e.c...@gmail.com, intend, without objection, to declare apathy, > specifying [omd, Jason]. > > omd, if you see this, hi! > > I have

Re: DIS: Hidden Action Fixes

2020-07-01 Thread Alex Smith via agora-discussion
On Tuesday, 30 June 2020, 22:16:48 GMT+1, ATMunn via agora-discussion wrote: > On 6/30/2020 5:09 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > > I'm working on a proposal to deal with hidden actions (such a G.'s burried > > vote). It'll also handle cases where the identity of the player sendin

Re: DIS: Draft Judgement of CFJ 3860

2020-07-04 Thread Alex Smith via agora-discussion
On Thursday, 2 July 2020, 19:05:59 GMT+1, ATMunn via agora-discussion wrote: > Thank you for the input. I will definitely take a closer look at those > previous cases and incorporate them into my judgement. It's my bad for > not at least briefly looking for previous precedents. If someone finds