DIS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Herald Election Decision Initiation (for real this time, hopefully...)

In the future, please provide the quorum. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Nov 24, 2017, at 8:52 PM, ATMunn <iamingodsa...@gmail.com> wrote: > > right. > > CoE: The campaign proposal decision has to be in the same message a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 7973-7980

Well, CAN is not capitalised in that rule, so we use common language definitions. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Nov 26, 2017, at 4:56 PM, Kerim Aydin <ke...@u.washington.edu> wrote: > > > > On Sun, 26 Nov 2017, Publius Sc

Re: DIS: Re: [Herald] A Champion and Herald we now have (Was: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 7973-7980)

Actually no, it is for you raising the banner, but depending on the result I will change that. Quick question: Have you been keeping the GH repo up to date for the Herald? Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Nov 26, 2017, at 4:53 PM, Kerim Aydin

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 7973-7980

>generally award em that type of Ribbon. > with: >While a person qualifies for a type of Ribbon, any player CAN >award em that type of Ribbon by announcement. > > -- > > > -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7982-7988

> pp1 Alexis3.0 Terrible Economic Hack Job > > Legend: * : Proposal is pending. > > > [1] Alexis, VJ Rada > [2] Somehow Both Of These Got Through > [3] V.J. Rada, Ørjan > [3] Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > [5] Alexis > [6] ADoP Obligation Clarification > >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7973-7880

I still do that in my Monthly report. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Nov 26, 2017, at 1:43 AM, Aris Merchant > <thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 9:11 PM, Owen Jacobson <o...@grimoire

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Rulekeepor] Short Logical Ruleset

of the rules of Agora. > >   The Rulekeepor's Weekly report includes the Short Logical Ruleset. >   The Rulekeepor's Monthly report includes the Full Logical Ruleset. > > On 11/25/2017 12:36 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: >> What I mean is that the SLR you publ

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Rulekeepor] Short Logical Ruleset

What I mean is that the SLR you published lists it incorrectly as being 105. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Nov 25, 2017, at 12:35 PM, Alexis Hunt <aler...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Sat, 25 Nov 2017 at 12:31 Publius Scriboni

DIS: ATTN: Aris (Was: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Herald Election Decision Initiation (for real this time, hopefully...) )

I vote {PSS, Corona} and FOR the proposal. Aris, please not the proposal that needs to be numbered. :) Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Nov 24, 2017, at 8:52 PM, ATMunn <iamingodsa...@gmail.com> wrote: > > right. > > CoE:

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Herald Election Decision Initiation

This has to be done in the same message as the other decision. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Nov 24, 2017, at 8:46 PM, ATMunn <iamingodsa...@gmail.com> wrote: > > ugh I'm too lazy for my own good today > > I accept PSS

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Herald Election Decision Initiation

I have noticed that business seems to come more quickly than official, but less quickly than discussion. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Nov 24, 2017, at 8:34 PM, Ørjan Johansen <oer...@nvg.ntnu.no> wrote: > > On Fri, 24 No

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Herald Election Decision Initiation

I haven't received the quoted correction yet. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Nov 24, 2017, at 8:31 PM, ATMunn <iamingodsa...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I vote {Corona, PSS} > > On 11/24/2017 8:30 PM, ATMunn wrote: >> I

Re: DIS: Logo?

tle >> thing to have" and people saying "sure". Regardless, since we like doing >> that sort of thing, a flag is a fine idea.  Maybe we should have a big >> revolution and discard our royalist trappings. >> >> >> On Fri, 24 Nov 2017, Publius Scribon

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Contract] MiniNomic

There's a typo in the first. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Nov 24, 2017, at 11:39 AM, Corona <liliumalbum.ag...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I become party to MiniNomic. > > I create the following Amendment Proposal in M

Re: DIS: Logo?

I like the coat of arms, but I wouldn't mind also getting a flag. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Nov 24, 2017, at 9:28 AM, ATMunn <iamingodsa...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I was actually thinking of making a flag for Agora, to r

Re: DIS: PAoaM v3: Not rushed this time and also better in general

I see this concern and this is why I am waiting on my courts overhaul. I wish that fewer people were perpetrating their major plans, when the underlying structure is like an airplane made out of cardboard and duct tape trying to fly from San Fransisco to Tokyo. Publius Scribonius

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I have no idea what I'm doing

I support this idea. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Nov 22, 2017, at 8:50 PM, Alex Smith <ais...@alumni.bham.ac.uk> wrote: > > On Thu, 2017-11-23 at 12:33 +1100, Madeline wrote: >> Potential expansion: They name an

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM WARNING!

I wonder why. What could the reason be? Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Nov 22, 2017, at 8:47 PM, VJ Rada <vijar...@gmail.com> wrote: > > The most recent 5 of your messages went to my spam folder for some reason > > On Thu,

Re: BUS: SCAMMERS FOUND! (Was: Re: DIS: Re: URGENT! SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM WARNING!)

Sorry, I will stop. But, my spam filter has thought for years that any email I send is spam. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Nov 22, 2017, at 8:45 PM, Aris Merchant > <thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > > You have succ

Re: DIS: What counts as a scam?

Not a timing scam because, it could have been done in at any time, while the FV was the amount of shinies less than the amount o gave you. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Nov 22, 2017, at 8:44 PM, ATMunn <iamingodsa...@gmail.com&

Re: DIS: Re: URGENT! SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM WARNING!

Proto-contract: Emergency Attorney Services. PSS will provide Emergency Attorney Services with 12 hours notice to defend players or other persons. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Nov 22, 2017, at 8:43 PM, Aris Merchant > <thoughtsofli

Re: BUS: SCAMMERS FOUND! (Was: Re: DIS: Re: URGENT! SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM WARNING!)

In the future, I will. Part of the joke was the mass of emails, demonstrating the overreaction. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Nov 22, 2017, at 8:42 PM, Aris Merchant > <thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > > OOC: pic

SCAMMERS FOUND! (Was: Re: DIS: Re: URGENT! SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM WARNING!)

the scam attempt. Please be aware and suspicious of any actions from Aris or Telnaior. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Nov 22, 2017, at 8:38 PM, Kerim Aydin <ke...@u.washington.edu> wrote: > > > > You're in on it. > &

DIS: Re: BUS: Would this work?

If you were also, Treasuror, with distributions, you could be even more efficient. But this wouldn't work in the same way that the Registrar need not track contract-defined switches. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Nov 22, 2017, at 8:28 PM,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I have no idea what I'm doing

I like this day. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Nov 22, 2017, at 8:24 PM, Madeline <j...@iinet.net.au> wrote: > > On 2017-11-23 12:17, ATMunn wrote: >> It seems like Agora is in a scammy mood. >> >> I hereby de

DIS: SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM WARNING!

awareness. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Nov 22, 2017, at 8:17 PM, ATMunn <iamingodsa...@gmail.com> wrote: > > It seems like Agora is in a scammy mood. > > I hereby declare that this message is a scam. signature.asc Descri

DIS: SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM WARNING!

awareness. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Nov 22, 2017, at 8:09 PM, Aris Merchant > <thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > > This message probably does absolutely nothing. Probably. There is also > a slim possibility t

Re: DIS: Re: URGENT! SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM WARNING!

Oh, well that's plausible, but I just wanted to be safe. That could also be cover for a timing scam. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Nov 22, 2017, at 7:54 PM, Aris Merchant > <thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Resignation, favours, and pledge

One is to just say that it is poor drafting and therefore as soon as the currencies do not match, we do not know what is within the set and therefore only the bounds are known and valid. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Nov 22, 2017, at 7:03

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Resignation, favours, and pledge

We need to create a 2d graph with amounts as an x and currency as the y to help in this assessment. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Nov 22, 2017, at 7:02 PM, VJ Rada <vijar...@gmail.com> wrote: > > The rule is pretty broken thou

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Resignation, favours, and pledge

Because it has to go through the Agora mail server. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Nov 22, 2017, at 6:55 PM, Madeline <j...@iinet.net.au> wrote: > > Why does it take me a few minutes to receive messages D: > Whatever, Alexis beat

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: o can be silly now

Yes, I am supposed to be at a party tonight, but am claiming to be sick, sick with the nomic bug. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Nov 22, 2017, at 6:49 PM, Reuben Staley <reuben.sta...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Holy frick,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: o can be silly now

No, VJ Rada is. Sorry for hijacking the thread and causing confusion. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Nov 22, 2017, at 6:43 PM, Reuben Staley <reuben.sta...@gmail.com> wrote: > > This entire conversation went way over my he

Re: DIS: Campaign proposal proto

You SHOULD make it a SHOULD not a SHALL. That is how other emotion things have been done. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Nov 22, 2017, at 6:26 PM, Corona <liliumalbum.ag...@gmail.com> wrote: > > That was intended to be the point; y

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Resignation, favours, and pledge

nothing else. DISCLAIMER: No dogs are harmed or actually kicked by my mentor and it was only intended as a joke. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Nov 22, 2017, at 5:25 PM, Aris Merchant > <thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Resignation, favours, and pledge

Okay, thanks for the explanation, but I still say anyone who wants to bring any kind of politics into Agora in anything other than a fun, light-hearted, joking, and non-demeaning way should pack their bags and get lost. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: o can be silly now

No it is not. The rule says we may levy a fine between 1 and 25 shinies. Not all favours are equivalent, some may be more valuable than others. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Nov 22, 2017, at 5:06 PM, VJ Rada <vijar...@gmail.com&

DIS: Re: BUS: o can be silly now

t; and Trigon didn't do anything silly, so there's no-one silly this week, >> and I just appointed someone for next week]. >> >> >> > > -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Resignation, favours, and pledge

Js fractionally and list >>> them all under a single whole number, so I wouldn't use CFJs that actually >>> have some interest for anyone. >>> >> I'm more willing to use rule-breaking to stop a win that is itself a >> product of blatant rule-breaking. I would not use it for a different kind >> of win. > > -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Resignation, favours, and pledge

e Advisor is V.J. Rada, >>> set eir Advisor to none. >>> >>> For every player to whom V.J. Rada has transferred a Favour, or in whose >>> possession V.J. Rada created a Favour since this proposal was submitted, >>> unless that player destroyed those Favours without spending them for any >>> action or game effect: >>> Destroy all of eir Favour and Balloons. Set all of eir Influence switches >>> to 0. For each Politician whose Advisor is that player, set eir Advisor to >>> none. >>> >>> Terminate the effect of the Door being Slammed at V.J. Rada. >>> }}} >>> >>> H. Promotor, I request expedited distribution of this proposal so that we >>> can rescind any punishments as soon as possible. >>> >>> -Alexis >> >> You're forgetting something. I wrote the black card rule. And I'm paranoid. >> "Any attempt to Slam the Door on a player >> <https://agoranomic.org/ruleset/#Rule869> or a person >> <https://agoranomic.org/ruleset/#Rule869> whose most recent deregistration >> took place without eir consent <https://agoranomic.org/ruleset/#Rule2124> is >> INEFFECTIVE, rules to the contrary notwithstanding." >> >> You're free to award the card, but you can't slam the door. >> >> -Aris > > -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Resignation, favours, and pledge

I think that it is clear that this won't work because 2504, the higher power rule states that your action is INEFFECTIVE. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Nov 22, 2017, at 2:15 PM, Alexis Hunt <aler...@gmail.com> wrote: > > As PSS s

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Resignation, favours, and pledge

No, because e is still interim. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Nov 22, 2017, at 2:21 PM, ATMunn <iamingodsa...@gmail.com> wrote: > > by the way, does the deputisation end the election I initiated? > > On 11/22/2017 2:20 PM,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Resignation, favours, and pledge

s for successfully pointing 3,000 >>> fingers. I resign as referee. I intend to call in the pledge, with >>> agoran consent, that states "I pledge to not point fingers" (or >>> similar) >>> >>> -- >>> From V.J. Rada >> >> >> -- >> From V.J. Rada -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

DIS: Re: BUS: Resignation, favours, and pledge

quot; (or > similar) > -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: DIS: PAoaM v3: Not rushed this time and also better in general

er to 5n paper, right?* > > Uh, no. I only want people to have to input 1 lumber all the time, but > I'm a little scared of adding n times the amount of paper per rank, so > I was kind of deliberating over how I wanted to do it. I think this > was supposed to be 5+n paper. > >>> 3. Looms >>> - Build Cost: 8 lumber and 4 stones >>> - Upkeep Cost: 2 coins >>> - Processing Details: 1 cotton to 5 cloth. >>> - Upgrade Costs: >>> - Rank 1: 6 coins, 3 lumber, 2 stones >>> - Rank 2: 7 coins, 4 lumber, 3 stones, 3 fabric >>> - Rank 3: 8 coins, 5 lumber, 4 stones, 5 fabric >>> - Rank 4: 9 coins, 6 lumber, 5 stones, 7 fabric >> >> *1n cotton to 5n _fabric_, as you refer to it elsewhere. Also, the >> processed materials seem weirdly abundant. With a rank 2 loom you can >> make 10 fabric/week, probably enough for upgrading all your facilities >> to rank 4. > > You're not supposed to be able to do that, as I already said. That > would unbalance the system way too much. Perhaps 5+n would also work > here. > >> Also, I think upkeep should definitely scale with rank, perhaps even >> polynomially, because that would make choosing whether to upgrade or >> not interesting - upgraded facilities take up less land than multiple >> low-level facilities (you spend less apples running aroud collecting >> and have to protect less LUs from being "captured"), on the other hand >> they would have more upkeep per unit produced. > > Probably they should. > >> Finally, upgrading feels too passive, you just wait and run around >> collecting resources, not interacting with other players much. What >> if, for example, upgrading to the final level of a facility required >> an Energy Crystal, of which there would  always be 30 instances. It >> would be initially distributed or auctioned off to players, and >> building any lv 4 facility would cost one. When such a facility would >> be destroyed (by turning its Land Unit into Æther), the crystal would >> be given to the nearest player. - This would necessitate trading or >> raiding to create (more) lv 4 facilities. > > Maybe so. I feel like this is material worthy of a different proposal, > though. > >>> [ All the values in this section are experimental; feel free to contest >>> any or all of my decisions. ] >>> >>> Create a new rule (Power=2) "Economics" with the text: >>> >>> The following currencies are defined, and are tracked by the >>> Treasuror: >>> >>> 1. ore >>> 2. stones >>> 3. lumber >>> 4. apples >>> 5. cotton >>> 6. corn >>> 7. coins >>> 8. papers >>> 9. fabric >> >> *TBH, most of the currencies (except apples) feel kind of the same, >> like, every building costs some of each resource, and you have to >> produce/trade everything roughly equally, and you don't need to trade >> much, because you can build any type of facility anywhere. > > Hopefully this will sort itself out in the future when people start > proposing more assets along the same vein as these nine, so > specialization can start. I want to keep it minimal at the beginning. > >> I'd like if it were more like e.g. Catan, where you build lots of >> cities if you have good access to rock and straw, and focus more on >> villages otherwise. >> >> On the other hand, the resources will probably be differentiated >> enough by the other things one will be able to purchase.* >> >>> >>> [ Probably not all of these will be managed by the Treasuror, but it >>> all >>> depends on where the discussion takes us over the next few days.] >>> >>> Stones, apples, and corn are considered unrefinable currencies; >>> ore, lumber, and cotton are considered refinable currencies; and >>> coins, papers, and fabric are considered refined currencies. >>> >>> Coins are the official currency of Agora. >>> >>> [ TODO: Remove references to shinies in the ruleset and replace them >>> with the new currencies. ] >>> >>> Set the land type of all land units that lie withing the region from >>> (-2, -2) to (+2, +2) to White. Create the following facilities: >>> >>> - Four mines at (-2, -2), (-2, +2), (+2, -2), and (+2, +2). >>> - Four orchards at (-1, -2), (-1, +2), (+1, -2), and (+1, +2). >>> - Four farms at (-2, -1), (-2, +1), (+2, -1), and (+2, +1). >> >> *Specify that these belong to Agora. (And that Agora doesn't have to >> pay upkeep to itself for facilities it owns?)* > > Well, even if Agora does have to pay upkeep, e can just create assets > anyways, so... > >>> >>> Set the locations of all players to (0, 0). >>> >>> Make Trigon the Cartographor. >>> >>> [ Someone else can take this job if they want. I just put my name in >>> because I know that I will indeed take the job. ] >>> >>> -- >>> Trigon >>> >> >> --- >> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. >> http://www.avg.com >> > -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 7965-7972

I can through the "The following officers CAN by announcement award Favours in the listed Parties" at the beginning of the rule. ---- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Nov 21, 2017, at 8:48 PM, VJ Rada <vijar...@gmail.com> wrote: >

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 7965-7972

nttpf On 11/21/2017 06:43 PM, VJ Rada wrote: > I award myself a Red Ribbon > for 7969 and an Orange Ribbon for 7970 > > > > On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 10:39 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > <p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com> wrote: >> I resolve the decision(

Re: DIS: PAoaM v3: Not rushed this time and also better in general

e you mention, this ends the economy in terms >> of playing it. 2 paper/week is more than I need, you give it back >> when I use it, I never have to participate. Give everyone 2/month, >> regardless of need, and they need to budget, and then to earn >> more they need to participate. >> >> >> >> >> > > -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: DIS: PAoaM v3: Not rushed this time and also better in general

, Reuben Staley wrote: > On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 6:13 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > <p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Comments: >> >> On 11/19/2017 07:19 PM, Reuben Staley wrote: >>> This is still pretty rough around the edges with th

DIS: Re: BUS: (no subject)

; The Arbitor's weekly report includes a summary of recent judicial > case activity, including open and recently-judged cases, recent > judicial assignments, and a list of players interested in judging. > > > -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: DIS: base currency discussion

er or >> contract is willing to part with to Agora to be distributed. > I agree, but Trigon's current draft includes getting rid of all shinies > through repeal not spending, which is why I started this discussion! > > -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: DIS: can contracts actually do officer stuff?

tract >> out Officer duties as act-on-behalf actions because they're >> "protected"? That's how I read it anyway. >> > That was my reading. I'd gladly repeal that rule as I think it does more > harm than good. -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: base currency discussion

that any > player can destroy it with two consent, for any reason, excepting that > “Players SHOULD NOT use the methods in this paragraph to further their > private interests." > > This contract will not be exempt from sustenance payments, but I doubt > they’ll tick fast enough to matter for your purposes. > > -o > -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: DIS: Become Herald!

; to track, and fun to find creative ways to add color to the game. > > Nominate for Herald Today! > > > -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: DIS: PAoaM v3: Not rushed this time and also better in general

ues in this section are experimental; feel free to contest >   any or all of my decisions. ] > > Create a new rule (Power=2) "Economics" with the text: > >   The following currencies are defined, and are tracked by the >       Treasuror: > >   1. ore &g

DIS: Re: BUS: Attempt to call in a pledge

nd to call in >> that pledge w/ agoran consent. > I support. > > -o > -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: DIS: The land reforms I kept on talking up

> recordkeepor of each key currency the office responsible for the action > (e.g. Promotor for the currency that pends things). > > I really like this sort of combo-system as a principle - but what do > recordkeepors think? > > -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: DIS: The land reforms I kept on talking up

o stop hanging around in the >> Widget factory, mousie). >> >> Some tinkering with the relative rates of production and consumption >> would produce some incentive to specialize, without giving a single >> specialist sole control over the resulting economy. >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Joining the fun

t 1:05 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus < > p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I will take Arbitor, if no one wants it, but I will not do so happily. I >> agree with the sentiment and I plan to disengage from the economy and >> hoarde shinies until it

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Joining the fun

r too long. I don't do offices >> for a reward in general, but it's extremely dispiriting to be on this >> ride at this point and expect to get ahead. Donations don't particularly >> help that feeling, though thanks for the offer. >> > Hear, hear. > > I won't be resigning, though; we need a rulekeepor and it's fun, and tailor > is pretty trivial. -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

DIS: Re: BUS: Joining the fun

ting period when an officer could >> instantly capitalize on a change made by eir report. We should bring that >> back. (when I held a job like this that didn't have an official waiting >> period, I pledged to do same). > On Nov 16, 2017, at 3:32 PM, Publius Scribonius Scho

DIS: Re: BUS: Stamps, Rewards

waiting > period, I pledged to do same). > > > > > -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: DIS: The land reforms I kept on talking up

> have a lot of different types of structures you win. There are lots of wins > that could be implemented. > > As a detail note, we should really unify on AP *or* shinies. Having > both around is a bit of a kludge and it would be good to pick just > one for basic action apportionment. > > > Good point. The two overlapping systems are quite inelegant. -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

DIS: Re: OFF: [Referee] Weekly Report

> Tue 7 Nov 2017: V.J. Rada made a pledge > Tue 7 Nov 2017: V.J. Rada made a pledge > Wed, 8 Nov 2017: Aris made 18 pledges (thanks a bunch, Aris) > Thu, 9 Nov 2017: Cuddlebeam pointed a finger at o. for abuse of power > Sat, 11 Nov 2017: Alexis made a pledge > Mon, 13 Nov 2017:

Re: DIS: Will it ever end?

I have no problem with the current phase and am enjoying it, I just also have thoughts for the future. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Nov 8, 2017, at 4:35 PM, VJ Rada <vijar...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I mean, I've been operating wi

Re: DIS: Will it ever end?

Once this economics phase winds down, I would be interested into going into a phase focused on legalistic stuff with contracts and a reformed judicial system, but without a currency. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Nov 8, 2017, at 2:02 PM, ATM

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3591 assigned to Publius Scribonius Scholasticus

I'm fine with either interpretation yours or mine, in my head mine made more sense, but yours makes more sense hearing it, so if people would prefer, I would have no problem with a reconsideration. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Nov 8, 2017, a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3591 assigned to Publius Scribonius Scholasticus

; Rule 2034 self-ratifies that a decision was "resolved as indicated" and >>> this includes the "indication" that it was resolved by the document >>> purporting to be a r208 resolution announcement that was published on >>> a particular date. It

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3591 assigned to Publius Scribonius Scholasticus

-ratify. On 11/08/2017 06:29 AM, Alexis Hunt wrote: > Why doesn't ratifying the outcome ratify consequences of it? I'm struggling > with that. > > On Wed, Nov 8, 2017, 05:48 Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, < > p.scribonius.scholasti...@googlemail.com> wrote: > >> Docu

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3591 assigned to Publius Scribonius Scholasticus

Documents do self-ratify on a date, but decisions specify that only the outcome, existence of the decision, and if it was a proposal, adoption ratify. Decisions are different in the way that they ratify. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Nov 7, 2

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Weekly Report

The number of filled offices divided by the number of officers. On 11/07/2017 08:59 AM, ATMunn wrote: > Consolidation? > > On 11/7/2017 5:42 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: >> Could you continue to include Consolidation in your reports? >> >> On 11/06/

Re: BUS: [Registrar] Monthly Deportations (Was: Re: DIS: Shiny Supply Level Fact (attn Treasuror!))

wen Jacobson <o...@grimoire.ca> wrote: >>> On Nov 6, 2017, at 8:30 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus >>> <p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> I intend to deregister without objection, each of Murphy, Quazie, Ienpw >>> III, om

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Surveyor] Weekly Report

of Dawsbergen = >> Owner: G. >> Market Value: 41 Shinies >> >>Dawsbergen is a stink, a grating noise, a pit, a habit, a >>nightmare. Dawsbergen is the shattered remains of logic and >>grammar, repealed rules, broken proposals, overturned judgements, >>and mistaken reports. Its inhabitants are, as the man once said, >>"logicians, rules lawyers, game munchkins, and sons of bitches," >>by which he meant Everybody. Had the man looked through another >>peep-hole he might have said: "Philosophers and judges and truth- >>seekers and the wise," and he would have meant the same thing. >> >>Also, it smells of fish. >> -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

DIS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Weekly Report

or Alexis   2017-10-01   2017-10-12    Y > Treasuror  o    2016-10-22   2017-09-21 > --------- > > [1] Associate Director of Personnel > [2] Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > [3] Interim offi

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Rulekeepor] Notes on Proposals 7931-7947, 7954-7956

n you please permit GPG/MIME signatures? > > Thanks on both notes - you remain a wonderful Distributor and host. > > -o > -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Elections and Proposal 7954-7956

Okay, then let me resolve it now. On 11/06/2017 09:34 PM, Alexis Hunt wrote: > On Mon, 6 Nov 2017 at 21:31 Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > <p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > <mailto:p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > I extended the period and

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Elections and Proposal 7954-7956

017 at 12:59 PM, ATMunn <iamingodsa...@gmail.com >>> <mailto:iamingodsa...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>>     Yay, I can publish my ADoP report now! >>> >>>     On 11/6/2017 4:48 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: >>> >>

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Elections and Proposal 7954-7956

<iamingodsa...@gmail.com > <mailto:iamingodsa...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Yay, I can publish my ADoP report now! > > On 11/6/2017 4:48 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > > I resolve the dec

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Initiating Decisions Correctly

How could I make it more humiliating without being rude? On 11/06/2017 05:53 AM, Alex Smith wrote: > On Mon, 2017-11-06 at 05:51 -0500, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > wrote: >> I issue a humiliating public reminder for this proposal and extend >> the voting period by

DIS: Protosal: Poetry Challenge Fix

ing 7 days to determine the winner of the writ. The loser of the writ SHALL pay to the winner 12 shinies. -- ---- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 7931-7947

Sorry about that. On 11/05/2017 09:54 PM, ATMunn wrote: > The wrapping is a little messed up. > > On 11/5/2017 9:51 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: >> >> I resolve the decision(s) to adopt propos

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Initiating Decisions Correctly

n. However, incorrectly stating the quorum of a decision >> does not invalidate the initiation, nor does it actually change the >> quorum of the decision." >> >> Nowhere does it say that failing to announce quorum invalidates the >> decision. >> >>

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Agronomist Election Agoran Decision Initiation and Campaign Proposal Distribution

017-11-06 12:58, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: >> To the same list or multiple lists? >> >> On 11/05/2017 08:54 PM, Madeline wrote: >>> PSS, you're sending all your messages twice for some reason. >>> >>> >>> On 2017-11-06 12:53, Publius

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Agronomist Election Agoran Decision Initiation and Campaign Proposal Distribution

To the same list or multiple lists? On 11/05/2017 08:54 PM, Madeline wrote: > PSS, you're sending all your messages twice for some reason. > > > On 2017-11-06 12:53, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: >> CoE: The quorum is not specified for the first decision. >> &

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Initiating Decisions Correctly

I think quorum is an essential parameter, given the SHALL requirement associated with it. On 11/05/2017 08:52 PM, Alexis Hunt wrote: > On Sun, 5 Nov 2017 at 20:50 Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > <p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > <mailto:p.scribonius.scholasti...@gm

DIS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Initiating Decisions Correctly

017 at 11:35 AM, ATMunn <iamingodsa...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Ah, thanks for letting me know. >>> >>> >>> On 10/31/2017 8:32 PM, VJ Rada wrote: >>>> >>>> (by the way ATMunn, I am uncommitted). >>>> >>>> I vote for

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7957-7961

ement is otherwise not able to be > answered with another valid judgement. > > with: > > * DISMISS, appropriate if the statement is malformed, undecidable, > if insufficient information exists to make a judgement with > reasonable effort, or the statement is otherwise

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7957-7961

ty, e.g. >> availability of information, from affecting outcomes.] >> >> and by replacing: >> >>    * DISMISS, appropriate if the statement is malformed, undecidable, >>    if insufficient information exists to make a judgement with >>    reasonable effort, or the statement is otherwise not able to be >>    answered with another valid judgement. >> >> with: >> >>    * DISMISS, appropriate if the statement is malformed, undecidable, >>    if insufficient information exists to make a judgement with >>    reasonable effort, or the statement is otherwise not able to be >>    answered with another valid judgement. DISMISS is not >>    appropriate if PARADOXICAL is appropriate. >> >> and by appending to the end: >> >>    * PARADOXICAL, appropriate if the statement is logically >> undecidable as a result of a paradox or or other irresovable >> logical situation. PARADOXICAL is not appropriate if IRRELEVANT >> is appropriate, nor is it appropriate if the undecidability >> arises from the case itself. >> >> [The reference to IRRELEVANT is to prevent multiple wins from the same >> paradox.] >> >> // >> -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7957-7961

I'll happily step aside for a player who > wants it. At first I thought it was good for a long-time player > (who might have some memory of good stuff to re-enact) but it's > even better for a motivated new player, as encouragement to explore > Agoran history. > > > -- Publ

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Weekly Report

So, I have checked the archives on my computer and I believe that is accurate. On 11/05/2017 02:03 PM, Alexis Hunt wrote: > On Sun, 5 Nov 2017 at 14:01 Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > <p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > <mailto:p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com>>

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Weekly Report

m>  24 Sep 17 >     Alexis   alercah at gmail.com > <http://gmail.com>    27 Sep 17 >     Telnaior jdga at iinet.net.au > <http://iinet.net.au>    20 Oct 17 > > >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Tailor] Ribbon Bar

No, so you are correct this fails. On 11/04/2017 02:31 PM, Alexis Hunt wrote: > On Fri, 3 Nov 2017 at 06:19 Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > <p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > <mailto:p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > I award myself a green ribb

Re: DIS: Judicial Reform

n/mailman/private/agora-official/2010-December/008377.html > (sorry, I couldn't find it on mail archive) > > -Aris -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Make Deregistration Less Stupid

dealbreaking concern? > > > On 2017-10-31 21:37, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: >> You should make it without objection or with 2 Agoran Consent. >> >> On 10/30/2017 10:29 PM, Telnaior wrote: >>> I won't be looking to use this immediately since it looks like

Re: DIS: Re: Wards

It looks now like getting rid of a monetary cap and stabilizing prices would be the best course of action. On 10/31/2017 01:21 AM, Aris Merchant wrote: > On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 10:11 PM Owen Jacobson > wrote: > > > > On Oct 31, 2017, at 12:42 AM,

Re: DIS: Re: Wards

What do you have against the Reportor? On 10/30/2017 10:53 PM, VJ Rada wrote: > How does Agora have no money? There were 32 proposals last week > > We really need to decrease reward amounts. Have hard jobs: Rulekeepor, > Treasuror be 5, all the way down to like reportor as 1. > > On Tue, Oct

DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Make Deregistration Less Stupid

You should make it without objection or with 2 Agoran Consent. On 10/30/2017 10:29 PM, Telnaior wrote: > I won't be looking to use this immediately since it looks like zombies > are becoming a thing, but if you want proper procedure for > deregistering in future let's try this? > > I create the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: JA;tC

t;> >> -Aris >> >> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 4:58 PM Publius Scribonius Scholasticus >> <p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> I object. >>> >>> On 10/30/2017 04:14 PM, VJ Rada wrote: >>>> I'm sorry, I intend to destroy it

DIS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Surveyor Election Campaign Proposal Distribution

I vote in favour of proposal 7954. On 10/30/2017 09:38 AM, ATMunn wrote: > Doing it correctly this time! > Note: If you've already voted, you'll have to vote again. > > As the nomination period of the Surveyor election is over, and there > was only one candidate, o, the election is uncontested. >

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3576 assigned to Publius Scribonius Scholasticus (Gaelan recused)

>> I file a motion to reconsider. Supporters are PSS & Alexis. >> >> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 8:34 AM, VJ Rada <vijar...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> I support >>> >>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 8:07 AM, Alexis Hunt <aler...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>

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