On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 11:03 AM,
C-walker wrote:
> I submit the following proposal and play Distrib-u-matic to make it
> Distributable.
>
> {{
>
> An Apologetic Proposal (AI = 2, II = 2)
>
> [[ This proposal turns Senatorship into a switch, clarifies dependent
> actions with only specific types of
On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 6:52 PM, Roger Hicks wrote:
> A Bank is a public contract whose purpose includes facilitating a
> means of asset exchange between players. Any party to a contract CAN cause
> that
> contract to become a Bank without three objections.
Which contract?
> Any player CAN trans
On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 5:25 PM, Roger Hicks wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 13:54, Ed Murphy wrote:
>> Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2654
>>
>> == Equity Case 2654 ==
>>
>> The PBA has not been maintained as was envi
On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 11:51 AM, Roger Hicks wrote:
> I IBA Deposit one 6 crop, one 5 crop, one 7 crop, and one 8 crop.
You now have 108zm.
> I IBA Withdraw one WRV.
Fails, as you noted; the rate of WRVs is 130zm.
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On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Roger Hicks wrote:
> I intend (with 2 support) to appeal this case. The relevant section of
> R2258 said nothing about weekly reports (at the time this CFJ was
> called):
Oh. Duh. My mistake.
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On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 10:59 AM,
C-walker wrote:
> CFJ, II 3: When a Rule is repealed, its Power is set to 0.
FALSE; it remains a Power-N entity which is no longer a rule (and
therefore is useless). See R105.
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On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 11:41 PM, Roger Hicks wrote:
> Again, nomic.bob-space.com is simply provided AS A CONVENIENCE to the
> Agoran community, not as a replacement for the time-tested way of
> doing things. Use it or don't use it as you wish. Agora has survived
> just fine for many years without
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 10:01 PM, Aaron Goldfein wrote:
> The IADoP's report says that an election hasn't been initiated since
> May. I guess that's incorrect.
The recently-ended election was initiated at the end of July.
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On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 7:42 PM, Elliott
Hird wrote:
> 2009/8/12 Roger Hicks :
>> nomic.bob-space.com is down (well, on error since I'm too lazy to
>> display a proper "site down" message - some features may still work)
>> while I make some significant changes to the database in preparation
>> for
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 9:43 PM, Aaron Goldfein wrote:
> I initiate an election for Rulekeepor. I nominate myself as Rulekeepor.
You need 4 support.
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On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Roger Hicks wrote:
> {{
> Penalty Box - Specify an entity. Playing this card announces intent to
> audit that entity With Notice, so long as that entity is not audited
> between the time this card is played and the time intent is resolved.
> }}
Useless; has the sam
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Roger Hicks wrote:
> A Bank is a public contract whose purpose includes facilitating a
> means of asset exchange between players. Any player CAN cause a public
> contract to become a Bank without three objections. Any player CAN
> cause a Bank to cease to be a Bank
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Roger Hicks wrote:
> Append to the list of cards in R2261 ("The Deck of Change"):
> {{
> Supersize Me - Specify an entity. That entity's Hand Limit is increased by 1.
>
> Shrink Potion - Specify an entity. That entity's Hand Limit is decreased by 1.
> }}
>
> Append
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 9:45 PM, comex wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 9:22 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
>> No offense taken, I'll be careful of the pattern. Though I'm not sure
>> may was an error in the original (when it was a pragmatic "MAY publish"
>> with
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 9:22 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> No offense taken, I'll be careful of the pattern. Though I'm not sure
> may was an error in the original (when it was a pragmatic "MAY publish"
> with no support issues - the pre-great-repeals legal system had a lot
> of Kelly-influenced "if yo
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 7:29 PM, Sean Hunt wrote:
> comex wrote:
>> I deposit 2xDistrib-u-Matic, 1xDebate-o-Matic, 1xLocal Election in the
>> IBA for a total of 170zm.
>>
> INVALID; the IBA cannot own crops.
Ugh, what's the point of restricting it to players and contests?
Why contests?
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The IBA's hand limit is currently zero. That means that all of its
cards will be destroyed next month, which is a pretty urgent problem,
but it's not clear to me how to fix it. There are a few options:
- Do nothing. Everyone will have to get their cards out at the end of
the month. Interesting
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 6:04 PM, Pavitra wrote:
> comex wrote:
>> On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Ed Murphy wrote:
>>> �1) We somehow forgot about the rising support requirement to publish
>>> � � � multiple NoVs in the same week.
>>
>> Didn't forget.
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Ed Murphy wrote:
> 1) We somehow forgot about the rising support requirement to publish
> multiple NoVs in the same week.
Didn't forget. The extra NoVs were, IIRC, ILLEGAL but VALID (because
the Rule used MAY, which is nearly always a mistake)
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On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Ed Murphy wrote:
> Which one was that, again?
http://www.mail-archive.com/agora-busin...@agoranomic.org/msg13200.html
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On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Ed Murphy wrote:
>> On Tue, 11 Aug 2009, Elliott Hird wrote:
>>> 2009/8/11 Sgeo :
I haven't been paying much attention. What offices have you scammed?
>>> CotC, majorly.
>>
>> Do you mean overriding random assignments to get favorable judges or
>> something mor
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 4:18 PM, ais523 wrote:
>> Of course. All of Agora depends on email to exist. Contracts depend
>> on language. I agree with you that it doesn't mean that R1728 clause is
>> wholly broken because nothing exists in a vacuum.
>
> The only places email is even mentioned in Ago
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Roger Hicks wrote:
> Origin IP is 64.17.129.3 or possibly 64.17.152.116. There were two
> messages within the past 15 minutes, both with the subject "BobTHJ's
> actions (automated)".
>
> Thanks,
> BobTHJ
I received one such message.
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Proto: A familiar right (AI=3)
{
Amend Rule 101 (The Rights of Agorans) by renumbering item vii. to
viii., and adding the following item before it:
vii. Every person has the right to be formally penalized only
through well-defined and common judicial processes, and to
cons
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Pavitra wrote:
> I also think "unless" constitutes a claim of precedence. Do we have
> rules or precedents about what happens when two contradictory clauses in
> the same Rule each claim precedence over the other?
Yes!
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n Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 11:29 PM, comex wrote:
I retract all of my recent CFJs.
I terminate Contract A.
I become inactive.
Let me know when I can call multiple inquiry cases to gather
precedent on a complex and thorny issue without someone throwing a
fit of pique.
On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 11:38 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> I can't act as a judge in the face of this ridiculous spam.
>
> Calling for multiple unlinked judgements as a call for "consistency"
> is a bit of a farce (as opposed to hoping that one will be assigned
> to someone friendly and thus be your lo
On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 9:28 PM, Taral wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 6:15 PM, Sean Hunt wrote:
>> It is restricted to editing "entities and/or attributes" whose
>> existences depend on it. It restricts itself to entities, therefor the
>> or clause is satisfied. Otherwise, contracts could not defin
On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 9:10 PM, Taral wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 1:39 PM, comex wrote:
>> comex CAN adopt a trumpet without 15 objections; its power is set to
>> one, and then it takes effect. It does not otherwise take effect.
>
> Nope. The existence of power do
On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 7:39 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
>
> On Sun, 9 Aug 2009, comex wrote:
>> On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 7:16 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
>>> On Sun, 9 Aug 2009, comex wrote:
>>>> It says "depends on", not "depends only on". If one or mor
On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 7:16 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
>
> On Sun, 9 Aug 2009, comex wrote:
>> It says "depends on", not "depends only on". If one or more factors
>> is necessary to preserve the existence of an entity, and one of them
>> is the contract
On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 7:00 PM, comex wrote:
> It says "depends on", not "depends only on". If one or more factors
> is necessary to preserve the existence of an entity, and one of them
*are necessary
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On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 6:28 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> I think this holds some water, perhaps more than my argument. And
> it's much simpler.
>
> R1728 allows Contract-actions as long as:
> the effects of that
> action are restricted to altering ent
On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 5:12 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> So why isn't AGAINT allowed to be a vote of AGAINST again? It's a
> perfectly normal and understandable typo that's tainted by an
> ancient CFJ.
I have, in the past, repeatedly used it with the intended meaning
FOR-- I used it instead of FOR in
On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
>
> On Sun, 9 Aug 2009, comex wrote:
>> comex CAN adopt a trumpet without 15 objections; its power is set to
>> one, and then it takes effect. It does not otherwise take effect.
>
> Doesn't fix the problem that this
On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
>
> [I pledged to post a proto. Here it is. I already had a private
> discussion with c. about it; he made some good counterarguments, I hope e
> will re-post it for a discussion to happen before the judgement is due].
Reposting, I submit all be
On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 5:31 AM, Sean Hunt wrote:
> C-walker wrote:
>> On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Sean Hunt wrote:
>>> C-walker wrote:
I change my salary to 'Change, Change, Government, Government'.
Is anyone willing to trade any of my Justice cards for Change or
Government
On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 1:16 AM, Roger Hicks wrote:
> Note that since developing it I've tried to make my program adaptable
> to this process. It hasn't been easy to come up with a workable
> solution, and it is still not complete, but my system now correctly
> models about 99% of the information it
On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 3:18 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> AOL!
n.b. this is ineffective (CFJ 1536)
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On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 5:37 PM, Jonatan
Kilhamn wrote:
> If I'm not already a member of it, I join the IBA.
> If I'm an eligible voter (ie I was already a member) I vote FOR all
> current motions to amend the IBA.
You were already a member. You have 130 zm.
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On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 2:21 PM, Sean Hunt wrote:
> There is a reason I have intentionally avoided trying to tie my
> database in to anyone else's (say, the Registrar's). Doing so would
> leave me reliant on another player's actions - for instance, a
> deregistered player leaves all eir offices. I
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Ed Murphy wrote:
> comex wrote:
>
>> Why can't we just have an interface that
>> - is open-source (so we know what's going on, and can replicate it to
>> another server if the original one goes down),
>
> I've adjusted
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Sean Hunt wrote:
> comex wrote:
>> I play No Confidence, initiating an election for the office of Anarchist.
>>
> I deputize for Anarchist to deal myself two Distrib-u-Matic cards and
> one Committee card.
Note that the office is still held by allispaul.
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On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 12:59 PM,
C-walker wrote:
> I judge FALSE. Although it seems c. was able to get a translation of
> the message through Gmail, I was not able to do so, and in any case
> not every Agoran uses Gmail. I also agree with the rest of eir
> arguments and the precedent of CFJ 1460.
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 8:07 AM, Geoffrey Spear wrote:
> The text report at http://www.nomictools.com/agora/registrar is pretty
> much up to date with my recordkeeping. I have plans to introduce a
> RESTful interface to the registration data in the near future.
ITT: redundancy. *sigh*
Why can't w
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 2:40 AM, Roger Hicks wrote:
> The self-ratified AAA report shows the following holdings in the bank:
>
> Farmer 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 X WRV
> -
> IBA 3 2 0 0
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 12:59 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> I contest this: Two reasons:
>
> 1. The rule mandates "text and title" in that order. "Viva la fuente!"
> is a title.
It still doesn't describe a Flag or other suitable Symbol for Agora.
(Depending on your view, a dictatorship rule may itsel
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 12:26 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> Not for a Non-election, Non-AI decision where the rule describes the
> valid options without including PRESENT. Unless it changed in the last
> couple weeks. -G.
At the moment it's a valid ballot but not a valid option (for any decision):
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 10:23 PM, Sean Hunt wrote:
> This distribution of proposal 6406 initiates the Agoran
> ...
> Proposal 6403 (Democratic, AI=2.0, Interest=1) by c-walker
> Proposal Tweaking Part 2.1
Which proposal is the real 6406?
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On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 3:48 PM, Sean Hunt wrote:
> Roger Hicks wrote:
>> On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 03:36, Sean Hunt wrote:
>>> I award comex two On the Nods and a Roll call for eir performance as
>>> Rulekeepor.
>>>
>> I can't find where c. performed a
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 4:11 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> My first instinct is that if any part of the authorization chain that
> contains a "permitted by" or other allowing mechanism falls down to
> power-0, the chain is broken. But that's a first (or by now second)
> instinct. Deciding if the instin
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> I appreciate that; I apologize and withdraw my pledge on the matter.
Thank you. Now let's get back to arguing about the case. :)
Actually, I believe the existing without-15-objections mechanism is
subtly broken: Rule 105 takes precedence over
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 2:27 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> As a point, self-interest aside, I think its bad if expressing opinions in
> discussion disqualifies one to judge. That's a little chilling... are you
> saying it's better to favor a case and stay quiet rather than have a
> discussion about it?
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 12:44 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
>
> On Thu, 6 Aug 2009, comex wrote:
>> I CFJ on the statement: If I don't receive 15 objections, it will be
>> POSSIBLE for me to indirectly cause a Rule Change using Contract A.
>
> I favor this case. -G.
Can you
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> Not over R1688 it doesn't. "Stipulated by the rules" is not the same
> as "stipulated by a contract acting as if it were a rule". -G.
I'd say that R1728's "CAN perform... as if" is such a stipulation-- an
implicit one, but no more implicit tha
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 12:32 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
>
> [Since it seems to be an evening for them, the following, I admit, is
> an Outright Scam; by my taxonomy definitely against the intent of the
> rule in question].
>
> I initiate an Agoran decision to decide the Flag of Agora. The eligible
> v
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 7, 2009, at 12:20 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
Gratuitous:
But how it got to that value does matter, and R1688 has precedence
over
R2141. Note: to act, the contract must have power as if it were a
rule,
not act "as if it were a rule of power". (It must have the p
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 7, 2009, at 12:41 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
On Thu, 6 Aug 2009, comex wrote:
If Contract A were a rule, it would be possible to use the without 15
objections mechanism to create a new rule; therefore, R1728
authorizes
it as long as the effects of the action are
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 11:14 PM, Pavitra wrote:
> I argue that it is in the best interests of the game for this to mean
> that, upon your inactivation, The Pier became owned by the L&FD by
> another mechanism than transference.
Nope, CFJ 1910
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On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 10:54 PM, comex wrote:
> I CFJ on the statement: If I don't receive 15 objections, it will be
> POSSIBLE for me to indirectly cause a Rule Change using Contract A.
Oh, and as usual for dictatorship attempts, if this is TRUE, the only
use of the created rule will
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 5:42 PM, Warrigal wrote:
> I register.
>
> So, pop quiz! Which of the following three announcements, which are
> all win announcements, is the longest of the three?
>
> I do.
>
> I am.
>
> My voting limit on an ordinary decision initiated at this time would
> exceed the combi
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 10:34 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> I nomic in many spare cycles in a traveling/many multiple computer job, so
> can't depend on an installed base. Dislike most web clients (hate gmail
> for reason you mentioned) - most dependable I've got is term window and
> Pine (after many ye
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 5, 2009, at 9:10 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
I have every reason to do so; it's my preferred way to look back at
most
things. -G.
Why?
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 8:52 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
>> Non-recordkeepors, however, won't.
>
> Actually, it will be a positive pain for recordkeepors (searching multiple
> archives), for whom I have more sympathy.
I don't; there's no reason to be using the agoranomic.org archives,
which are handy in
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 8:35 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> AGAINST. Encourage minor contest traffic elsewhere, instead.
> (All recordkeepors will have to check all PFs anyway, so nothing
> is gained). -G.
Non-recordkeepors, however, won't.
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FOR. There's no advantage of a digest over a second list that can be
sequestered into its own folder/label, and many disadvantages. I will
just lump the messages into the same label for reading, but I can see
the need for reducing traffic.
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 5, 2009, at 6:21 PM,
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 10:46 PM, comex wrote:
> http://nomic.bob-space.com/agoralog.aspx?player=c. says I have 3
> Change draws, but
> http://nomic.bob-space.com/agoralog.aspx?contract=Change does not
> explain how I got them. Why?
...because I fail at reading and searched
http://nomic.bob-space.com/agoralog.aspx?player=c. says I have 3
Change draws, but
http://nomic.bob-space.com/agoralog.aspx?contract=Change does not
explain how I got them. Why?
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On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 7:53 PM, Sean Hunt wrote:
> Roger Hicks wrote:
>> Which is the reaction I expected and part of the reason I've held off
>> suggesting it. Though I would like to hear your reasons why you think
>> it is a bad idea.
>>
>> BobTHJ
>
> Actions take place on the lists for a reason.
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 6:35 PM, Roger Hicks wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 16:29, Taral wrote:
>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 12:29 PM, Roger Hicks wrote:
>>> I harvest 2265 for a random land.
>>
>> Me too. Anyone else think the "me-too"-ness of AAA is something that
>> might be improved?
>>
> I've giv
2009/8/4 yuri_dragon_17 :
> yuri_dragon_17 wrote:
>>
>>
>>
> Some players suggested that to make things easier I should register
> unambiguously. So,
> I register.
NttPF - that is to say, such messages need to be sent to
agora-business to be effective.
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http://bob.qoid.us
Mostly the text versions, however the pages without complete text
versions are scraped from the HTML instead. Each day the files should
be updated and a new revision committed to RCS. If you want to use
diff, I recommend diff -b to ignore whitespace. The script is there
and v
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> I object again. I think I saw three objections to yours before mine even
> went up, might be mistaken... -G.
Note that we only have 4 more days or so before voting starts, even if
there are no candidates.
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2009/8/3 yuri_dragon_17 :
>
CFJ 1460-- though I must say, Gmail presented me with a nice
convenient "Translate Message" button, and with one click I was able
to read the message. But this might not work for more complicated
messages and the judge's arguments still, I think, apply.
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Roger Hicks wrote:
> In any case, if ais523 doesn't want the job I'll happily do it. After
> the complaints about Wikidot, I started a manual copy from the notary
> wiki to my database. I'm about 2/3 of the way done at this point.
>
> BobTHJ
Sorry, I'm in a bad moo
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 2:08 PM, ais523 wrote:
> I object to all current intents to create Flag Candidates.
Why? I can understand mine, but surely Pavitra's is at least worth voting on.
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On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 9:39 AM, ais523 wrote:
> I judge CFJ 2641 NOT GUILTY; GUILTY is inappropriate per rule 1504(d)
> (it is reasonable that BobTHJ was aware that reports must be correct,
> but did not believe eir report was incorrect).
I'd intend to appeal this, as it throws away the distinctio
On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 10:37 AM, ais523 wrote:
> Heh, it was more complicated than that. The 'subcabal' containing me and
> Sgeo was actually legitimate, in that we were planning genuine scams
> there (some of which we have to try sometime; I don't think any of them
> were actually attempted). We d
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 9:08 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> Honestly, I think what makes a good game work is "creative tension."
> Around here, examples I've been in the thick of/in the race for:
>
> 1. A tight race to a win condition;
> 2. An attempt to reach and/or hold a pinnacle of political posi
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Ed Murphy wrote:
> ais523 wrote:
>
>> genuine paradoxes (e.g. the 'paradox win', which strangely appears to
>> have no attached CFJ (were the relevant rules different back then),
>> about assigning Goethe to CFJ 1596; just because there are two
>
> Yes, per http://
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 6:18 PM, Roger Hicks wrote:
> I hardly consider snopes.com an objective source,
With all due respect, did you actually read the snopes article and the
sources it cites?
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On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 11:26 PM, Sean Hunt wrote:
> I disagree. The first is not fatal to the contract. The zm exchange
> mechanism, while diminished in usefulness without an offer system, is
> still useful. I would have used it today with my AAA crops were it not
> for the fact that a report had
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 5:10 PM, Ed Murphy wrote:
> I hereby inform the parties of this case:
> http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2636
> and invite em to submit arguments regarding the equitability of the
> situation.
Arguments: Couldn't you have waited until I became active? Mor
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 17, 2009, at 10:36 AM, Roger Hicks wrote:
I withdraw my previous comments arguing for power=2, and request an
appeals judgment of REMAND.
No remand please
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 17, 2009, at 9:45 AM, Geoffrey Spear
wrote:
Though c.'s intent (in my reading)
scans not in iambs of pent
Still coppro's verse deserves no worse
than Bard, I support eir intent.
I don't see how it doesn't. On the other hand, "readING"? Seriously? :)
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 6:57 AM, Benjamin
Caplan wrote:
> So you didn't intend anything *specific*, but you did intend that
> *something* would happen.
I for one intended to be bound by whatever the text said.
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On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 8:13 AM, Roger Hicks wrote:
> comex clearly believes these rules do not exist at all based on eir
> judgment. So which is it? If these rules exist at power=1 (preferable
> in my opinion) then someone else should support my appeal so more
> appropriate argu
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 12:25 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> I agree with c. here; rule changes have a special standard and absolute
> and precise specification is required. I screwed up. -G.
On my part, I apologize that I have to leave in the middle of what
looks like some controversy over the rulese
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Taral wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 11:14 AM, Roger Hicks wrote:
>> I intend (with 2 support) to appeal. A request to set a rule AI to 2
>> seems fairly unambiguous to me as a request to set power to 2.
>
> I support. More common sense please.
Rule 217 only goes
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 7:11 PM, Roger Hicks wrote:
>> Can I supply a hefty bribe from my nonexistent pot of currency to make
>> sure that the new system is as little like the previous one as
>> possible?
>>
> What specifically didn't you like about the last? I am using the same
> system, just slig
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 11, 2009, at 6:48 AM, C-walker
wrote:
Again, apologies for the lack of wrapping,
http://agora.qoid.us/aword.cgi still appears to be out of action.
Oops, fixed.
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 5:27 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> You're half right, but you're missing my point. What I'm saying is that
> the second mention of the "exploit" refers to the exploit on the card in
> the player's hand. So right now, it reads that "If a card has an exploit"
> (which is true, I
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Ed Murphy wrote:
> We decided a while back that "X SHALL Y" implies "X CAN Y". Probably
> should be legislated explicitly, though.
Only when a mechanism is specified.
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On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 2:09 PM, Sean Hunt wrote:
> I also intend, without objection (independently), to ratify the
> following (definitively) incorrect document:
>
> {
> The first paragraph of Rule 2256 reads as follows:
> A player CAN play a card in eir possession which has an exploit by
>
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 1:43 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
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> On Fri, 10 Jul 2009, comex wrote:
>> On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 3:22 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
>>> [Card deals]
>>
>> Psh.
>
> What's the issue here? The randomizer picked these I haven't (or
523 : Arm-twist
> To ais523 : Roll Call
> To ais523 : Arm-twist
> To allispaul : Roll Call
> To allispaul : Roll Call
> To BobTHJ : Roll Call
> To BobTHJ : No Confidence
> To BobTHJ : Roll Call
> To BobTHJ : No Confidence
> To BobTHJ : Arm-twist
> To BobTHJ : Roll Cal
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 11:30 PM, Ed Murphy wrote:
>> What I would like, of course, is all the assets you can possibly give
>> me. I doubt that that's happening though.
>
> I'd like a squadron of tanks. Try again, Friend Citizen.
I think he wants you to make the first offer. ;)
--
-c.
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On Jul 9, 2009, at 6:28 PM, Benjamin Caplan > wrote:
The term "IADoP" /can/ refer to the officer, yes, but it /also/ can
refer to the office.
I refer to my earlier statement: "We assign powers and
responsibilities
to offices all the time." Do you disagree with that st
On Jul 9, 2009, at 6:03 PM, Benjamin Caplan > wrote:
At 19:58 Thu 9 July 2009 UTC, comex wrote:
I CoE this one too, just in case. (The SLR should be non-empty.)
It's not self-ratifying.
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 3:48 PM, Roger Hicks wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 13:34, comex wrote:
>>
>
> CoE: The ruleset seems shorter than usual.
Based on the above, I am the winner there are no rules.
No, seriously, sorry about that. agora.qoid.us has been moved to a
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